Pete Prisco on Cowboys, Romo deal

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Cowboys22;5036297 said:
I am soo sick of the "Romo's stats" argument. I'd rather have 0 TDs over the last two years and a super bowl win than 59 TDs and no playoff wins. People wanting to compare Romo to the current super bowl winning QB based on stats are nothing but delusional homers who wouldn't know the truth if it horse collar tackled them on the 2 yard line.

or people that actually passed Football 101
 

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gimmesix;5035854 said:
He has one of the top tight ends in the game to throw to, and Bryant really stepped it up the second half. Granted, I agree that we didn't get much from Bryant the first half, Austin struggled through injuries and it took Dallas too long to find a third receiver (relying on Ogletree hurt us again).

However, the receiving group isn't the reason Dallas went 8-8. It was not garbage last year.
I think you're remembering the second part of the season better than the first. Ogletree and Dez both were making up routes for a lot of games, WITTEN got a case of the dropsies for a while and Austin has a perpetual hamstring injury. I wouldnt say they are bad, but the receiving corps was very potato for a while.
 

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Beast_from_East;5036244 said:
Naa, I think it was the defense that gave up 800 yards rushing to a QB with 1 leg that tanked the game.


Since most of the defensive coaches have been replaced, Jerry and Steven agree with my assesment.
Eh, they still kept the points down. I agree with the count, Romo faltered at the time we really needed him sharp. What I disagree with is that this has happened repeatedly. Did he choke that game? Sure, but its the first time I felt he was completely responsible for a must win game as a QB.

Obviously I'm not including him as a holder.
 

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burmafrd;5036343 said:
or people that actually passed Football 101

Or people happy with 8-8 but a top 5 QB stats-wise. I take it from your respose you'd rather have the 59 TDs than the super bowl win.
 

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Cowboys22;5036356 said:
Or people happy with 8-8 but a top 5 QB stats-wise. I take it from your respose you'd rather have the 59 TDs than the super bowl win.

has romo ever had a better record? :lmao2:If you only read this board you would think romo tops out at 8-8 and it has nothing to do with the team. Somehow though his overall record isn't 35-35.
 

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What's sad I'd that this even needs to be written. It is so blatantly obvious, it should go without saying. Romo is a terrific quarterback stuck in Jerry's mess.

Dumbfounding that there are people that don't understand that. Then again, there are a lot of non-thinkers these days.
 

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erod;5036426 said:
What's sad I'd that this even needs to be written. It is so blatantly obvious, it should go without saying. Romo is a terrific quarterback stuck in Jerry's mess.

Dumbfounding that there are people that don't understand that. Then again, there are a lot of non-thinkers these days.

There certainly are..
 

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erod;5036426 said:
What's sad I'd that this even needs to be written. It is so blatantly obvious, it should go without saying. Romo is a terrific quarterback stuck in Jerry's mess.

Dumbfounding that there are people that don't understand that. Then again, there are a lot of non-thinkers these days.

Probably the best litmus test of football knowledge is asking someone's opinion on Tony Romo. If they think Romo's a bad QB boom, they have bad football opinions.
 

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gimmesix;5035839 said:
I don't agree with the "garbage team" comment. He has a garbage line, which led to a garbage running game, but he has a quality receiving group.

There are also a lot of quality players on that defense, but too many injuries made it garbage when Dallas needed it to step up the most.

And Romo did have his garbage moments last year, but with more support from the running game and the defense, those few bad games/decisions wouldn't have mattered (and possibly wouldn't have happened).

be honest and not just argumentative to my reply here and you will probably agree that after Dez, who is high quality in the receiving group? I agree that Austin has his moments when he is not injured, but he has not been the same as his breakout year and has been in decline ever since. After that, we have absolutely nothing but rookies and new guys. Yes guys with potential like Harris, but still new and with a few having physical deficiencies (size) that make there roles limited.

Honestly IMO, I think this team is on the fence of having enough good players or atleast potential and then having enough players who are just overrated with too much expectation. I will say this team is not nearly as good as we, I included, having been believing for years and I have come to accept that. Now, do I believe they could make a liar out of me, yes hence my belief as stated above that this team is on that "fence"
 

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RW Hitman;5036439 said:
be honest and not just argumentative to my reply here and you will probably agree that after Dez, who is high quality in the receiving group? I agree that Austin has his moments when he is not injured, but he has not been the same as his breakout year and has been in decline ever since. After that, we have absolutely nothing but rookies and new guys. Yes guys with potential like Harris, but still new and with a few having physical deficiencies (size) that make there roles limited.

Honestly IMO, I think this team is on the fence of having enough good players or atleast potential and then having enough players who are just overrated with too much expectation. I will say this team is not nearly as good as we, I included, having been believing for years and I have come to accept that. Now, do I believe they could make a liar out of me, yes hence my belief as stated above that this team is on that "fence"

Have you just not heard of Jason Witten or are you deliberately trying to make our receiving group seem less valuable than they really are?

Also, size isn't a physical deficiency. Look at Wes Welker.. if you can play, you can play.
 

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RW Hitman;5036439 said:
be honest and not just argumentative to my reply here and you will probably agree that after Dez, who is high quality in the receiving group? I agree that Austin has his moments when he is not injured, but he has not been the same as his breakout year and has been in decline ever since. After that, we have absolutely nothing but rookies and new guys. Yes guys with potential like Harris, but still new and with a few having physical deficiencies (size) that make there roles limited.

Honestly IMO, I think this team is on the fence of having enough good players or atleast potential and then having enough players who are just overrated with too much expectation. I will say this team is not nearly as good as we, I included, having been believing for years and I have come to accept that. Now, do I believe they could make a liar out of me, yes hence my belief as stated above that this team is on that "fence"

Romo had nearly 3 receivers who had 1000 yards a piece.......Romo isn't lacking in targets. There are plenty of reasons to why this team was 8-8 and why this team can't score points to match the yards they put up but receiving targets isn't one of them.
 

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The line is garbage. The defense ranked near the bottom of the league.
The QB and WRs are fine.
So all is not garbage.
 

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DFWJC;5036467 said:
The line is garbage. The defense ranked near the bottom of the league.
The QB and WRs are fine.
So all is not garbage.

The only part of the team that was garbage last year was the OL.. and even they weren't as bad as some think.

We have talent at QB, RB, TE, WR, and on the defense for sure. We had alot of injuries to starters on D last year and still played pretty well most games.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036481 said:
The only part of the team that was garbage last year was the OL.. and even they weren't as bad as some think.

We have talent at QB, RB, TE, WR, and on the defense for sure. We had alot of injuries to starters on D last year and still played pretty well most games.

Run game was pretty bad for the most part, between Murray being hurt and the lack of depth behind him.
 

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I get it now, Romo walks on water... Jerry is the man keeping Romo down.....
 

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Death Star;5036484 said:
Run game was pretty bad for the most part, between Murray being hurt and the lack of depth behind him.

We have talent at the RB position though. Run game was bad because, like you said, our starter was out for half the year and we had a bad OL.

Still doesn't make Murray "garbage", as Pete would want you to believe. Honestly the only garbage i saw was his tweet and the people that praised him for saying it.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036493 said:
We have talent at the RB position though. Run game was bad because, like you said, our starter was out for half the year and we had a bad OL.

Still doesn't make Murray "garbage", as Pete would want you to believe. Honestly the only garbage i saw was his tweet and the people that praised him for saying it.

Pretty sure Prisco was referring to the line only. He should have clarified that.

I agree, except for a few spots and depth, this team has talent.

Fact is that the defense, run game, and sacks/pressures were all near the bottom of the league.
Injuries played a big role, so depth comes into play as well.

Romo has to share the blame for at least half of those picks too. Early in the year, they seemed way out of whack.
 

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erod;5036426 said:
What's sad I'd that this even needs to be written. It is so blatantly obvious, it should go without saying. Romo is a terrific quarterback stuck in Jerry's mess.

Dumbfounding that there are people that don't understand that. Then again, there are a lot of non-thinkers these days.



One of the best posts of the day.
 

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DFWJC;5036504 said:
Pretty sure Prisco was referring to the line only. He should have clarified that.

I agree, except for a few spots and depth, this team has talent.

Fact is that the defense, run game, and sacks/pressures were all near the bottom of the league.
Injuries played a big role, so depth comes into play as well.

Eh, that doesn't seem to be the tone of what he said:

Had same numbers at Flacco last year in regular season with dog meat around him

He carried a garbage team too last year.
 

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erod;5036426 said:
What's sad I'd that this even needs to be written. It is so blatantly obvious, it should go without saying. Romo is a terrific quarterback stuck in Jerry's mess.

Dumbfounding that there are people that don't understand that. Then again, there are a lot of non-thinkers these days.

nd the light shines through, well put.
 
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