Pete Prisco on Cowboys, Romo deal

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ShiningStar;5036511 said:
nd the light shines through, well put.

:laugh2:

Oh Lord, if erod is the "light" on this forum now, i fear what i have jumped back into.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036481 said:
The only part of the team that was garbage last year was the OL.. and even they weren't as bad as some think.

We have talent at QB, RB, TE, WR, and on the defense for sure. We had alot of injuries to starters on D last year and still played pretty well most games.

Common, with or without injuries our D basically sucked all of last year, and talent at the RB position does not matter without good oline play.
 

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Coy;5036531 said:
Common, with or without injuries our D basically sucked all of last year, and talent at the RB position does not matter without good oline play.

Exactly, which is why im fine with admitting our OL was garbage. The team in general though, is not.

You can say our D sucked if you want, but i remember then keeping us in alot of games in the first half of the season when our QB was trying to throw away every game. The second half of the season (after numerous injuries to key players) i admit the D didn't play as well, but you have to include the injuries when figuring out why. Can't just leave that out and say our D sucks.
 

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I don't agree with him entirely. I don't think the entire team was garbage or dog meat.

Romo has talented WR's, a HoF TE, and a talented RB to work with on the offensive side of the ball.

Unfortunately his RB seems to never stay healthy, one of his talented WR's seems to have the same issue, and he has a terrible offensive line that is made to look some how passable because he's able to avoid so much of the rush they just allow through on a constant basis.


Also I agree that he definately cost the team the Commanders game at the end of the year. There is no way around that.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036534 said:
Exactly, which is why im fine with admitting our OL was garbage. The team in general though, is not.

You can say our D sucked if you want, but i remember then keeping us in alot of games in the first half of the season when our QB was trying to throw away every game. The second half of the season (after numerous injuries to key players) i admit the D didn't play as well, but you have to include the injuries when figuring out why. Can't just leave that out and say our D sucks.

i cn agree with everything you posted here. I posted in another thread, if we can buy Romo and Ware a second or two, more bigger plays are going to happen.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036534 said:
Exactly, which is why im fine with admitting our OL was garbage. The team in general though, is not.

You can say our D sucked if you want, but i remember then keeping us in alot of games in the first half of the season when our QB was trying to throw away every game. The second half of the season (after numerous injuries to key players) i admit the D didn't play as well, but you have to include the injuries when figuring out why. Can't just leave that out and say our D sucks.

The only areas on our team that I would consider garbage are the OL and safety positions. Other than those two areas we're pretty much on par with most of the league.

Which is why coaching is so important in the NFL. Therein lies the problem for the Cowboys. Jason Garrett is a middle of the pack coach at best. He doesn't have the coaching prowess to make up for our talent shortcomings.
 

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rocyaice;5036453 said:
Romo had nearly 3 receivers who had 1000 yards a piece.......Romo isn't lacking in targets. There are plenty of reasons to why this team was 8-8 and why this team can't score points to match the yards they put up but receiving targets isn't one of them.

well I was just making a reply to another poster in that our WR position is not set IMO. Was not even considering TE Witten at all.

But I guess a bigger portion of that reply had more to do with how much this team is lacking, and it does lack alot more than many think, WR is just one spot.
 

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Cowboys22;5036297 said:
I am soo sick of the "Romo's stats" argument. I'd rather have 0 TDs over the last two years and a super bowl win than 59 TDs and no playoff wins. People wanting to compare Romo to the current super bowl winning QB based on stats are nothing but delusional homers who wouldn't know the truth if it horse collar tackled them on the 2 yard line.

You mean you're sick of people making sound arguements backed up with facts that fly in the face of whatever it is you belive..........

Here's a little exercise for you........

Go make a list of 5 QBs who you are certain are better than Romo.

Then look up those meaningless stats you speak of for those 5 and do you know what you'll find?

Real good stats.
 

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Cowboys22 said:
I'd rather have 0 TDs over the last two years and a super bowl win than 59 TDs and no playoff wins.



If a quarterback is able to win a Super Bowl while throwing zero TD passes all season, then he must have some insane running back who rushes for 3,000 yards and 50 TDs.


Just saying.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036481 said:
The only part of the team that was garbage last year was the OL.. and even they weren't as bad as some think.

We have talent at QB, RB, TE, WR, and on the defense for sure. We had alot of injuries to starters on D last year and still played pretty well most games.

:bow:
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036481 said:
The only part of the team that was garbage last year was the OL.. and even they weren't as bad as some think.

We have talent at QB, RB, TE, WR, and on the defense for sure. We had alot of injuries to starters on D last year and still played pretty well most games.

your QB is running for his life almost every passing play and you have the 31st ranked rush game in the NFL and You claim the O line is not that bad.
Sure.
 

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burmafrd;5036664 said:
your QB is running for his life almost every passing play and you have the 31st ranked rush game in the NFL and You claim the O line is not that bad.
Sure.

Good point spoken well. I'd add we have trouble in short yardage situations including the goal line.

I think Roy meant the OL is not as bad as some people make it out to be.
 

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Hoofbite;5036155 said:
A 3 year deal? Not sure I agree with that.

It's a 3 year deal in the sense that there was 1 year left on the contract and 3 years added on, and in 2017 they could theoretically cut him with only one year of bonus amortization left
 

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It's simple.

Fix the offensive line, and we can one and for all judge Tony Romo. I would love to see what this team could do with a running game and consistent pass protection.

Romo can elude a pass rusher, but not 2-3 of them on 3rd and 9 all the time.
 

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Threw together a quick chart to illustrate the "3 year extension" description

http://img194.*************/img194/7513/screenshot20130330at347.png
 

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RoyTheHammer;5036493 said:
We have talent at the RB position though. Run game was bad because, like you said, our starter was out for half the year and we had a bad OL.

Still doesn't make Murray "garbage", as Pete would want you to believe. Honestly the only garbage i saw was his tweet and the people that praised him for saying it.

I don't post much but this comment just screamed at me to ask, Where did Pete say that Murray was garbage?!:confused:
 

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I read a version of this comment almost everyday, "Barring injuries, this team could make a lot of noise this year." Yet when it happens, it's just another excuse for not meeting their team goal.

Is there any fan, reporter, GM, headcoach, player and or idiot, that would say injuries do not negatively affect a teams chances of success? Of course some work thru it and some don't. I would challenge anyone to show me an NFL team with the injuries we had last year that went on to post season success.
 

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dfan32;5036706 said:
I read a version of this comment almost everyday, "Barring injuries, this team could make a lot of noise this year." Yet when it happens, it's just another excuse for not meeting their team goal.

Is there any fan, reporter, GM, headcoach, player and or idiot, that would say injuries do not negatively affect a teams chances of success? Of course some work thru it and some don't. I would challenge anyone to show me an NFL team with the injuries we had last year that went on to post season success.
Green Bay the year they won the Super Bowl over Pittsburgh. all most half their team was on IR. and they still won. stop the excuses for losing. we lost last year because this team is not good enough.PERIOD!
 

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cowboyvic;5036717 said:
Green Bay the year they won the Super Bowl over Pittsburgh. all most half their team was on IR. and they still won. stop the excuses for losing. we lost last year because this team is not good enough.PERIOD!

I've heard that one before and it was blown out of the water by other posters.

So you are one that would suggest that injuries to star players, unit groups such as o-line or LB'ers do not or should not adversely affect an NFL teams performance?
 
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