Peter King’s Annual Mock Draft!

[Stash]

There's a possibility that teams who are targeting Tunsil don't believe that they have to get in Dallas' spot to take him, stash. Of the top 5 teams, we are in the weakest position to trade down due to needs vs. talent available, IMHO. I think most teams (correctly) assume that Tunsil, though an immense talent, is of a lower priority to a team with an already stacked o-line and a top 3 LT as is. Compound that with the fact that it's cheaper to trade into the 5th spot than it is the 4th (though not by much). Just a thought, brother.

No problem. But there's one thing that your theory leaves out, and that's a team other than Tennessee being interested in Tunsil. Baltimore is sitting right there and Tennessee should not only worry about them making the deal with Dallas at #4, but also with San Diego at #3 as well.

It's not just about trading ahead of someone on the draft order, it's about another team not beating you to the punch.

Again, all too often, fans only consider deals between teams A and B while failing to consider team C.

 

[conner01]

And in the end it didn't matter which we got because neither were difference-making CB.

Very few cb's are true difference makers
T new was much better than fans have hit credit for

 

[skinsscalper]

No problem. But there's one thing that your theory leaves out, and that's a team other than Tennessee being interested in Tunsil. Baltimore is sitting right there and Tennessee should not only worry about them making the deal with Dallas at #4, but also with San Diego at #3 as well.

It's not just about trading ahead of someone on the draft order, it's about another team not beating you to the punch.

Again, all too often, fans only consider deals between teams A and B while failing to consider team C.

That's fair and valid. I'm just specifically referencing this particular scenario and why it's plausible.

 

[dstew60105]

ZEKE!!!

4. Dallas: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State. I think it comes down to Joey Bosa and Elliott here, with strong sentiment around the organization for both. Question is, can Jerry Jones avoid the temptation of picking the best pass-rusher available, Bosa, with all the MIA guys on the Dallas front seven early in the season. The offensive coaches love Elliott and think he’d take major pressure off Tony Romo—and he’s an NFL ready blocker and receiver out of the backfield right now. I think it could go either way, and I’m picking Elliott simply because he has a chance to be a rushing champion, while Bosa is probably an eight-to-10-sack guy.

Notable:

3. San Diego: Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State.
5. Tennessee: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi. Trade with Titans.
6. Baltimore: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State.
10. New York Giants: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA.

For Entire Mock:
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/24/nfl-mock-draft-peter-king-trades

I think the plan is as follows. If the Chargers take Ramsey, try to trade out for anyone looking for Tunsil. If no trade materializes, then Zeke is the pick. If Chargers take or trade the pick for someone looking for Tunsil, then Ramsey is the pick.

 

[Stash]

I think the plan is as follows. If the Chargers take Ramsey, try to trade out for anyone looking for Tunsil. If no trade materializes, then Zeke is the pick. If Chargers take or trade the pick for someone looking for Tunsil, then Ramsey is the pick.

I agree with most of that, other than the part of actually drafting Elliott.

If Ramsey goes #3, and I can't get the trade out offer, I'll 'settle' for the top prospect in the draft and make a great offensive line a line without a weak spot. Truly the greatest the league has ever seen. Not much more 'Romo friendly' than that.

You can either draft another quality running back later this year, or go with McFadden and Morris this year behind that teriffic line and then draft one from a better class of running backs in 2017.

 

[AbeBeta]

Because we didn't have our all pro QB converting 3rd downs and keeping drives going.

McFadden is a nice back when healthy. He's also entering his 9th season. Not many backs are great after that long. Far fewer string together back to back 1000 yard seasons.

He is a nice piece to plug in but not a guy who changes your draft approach

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Did you bother to read the original post or just try to jump on me?

Did you miss the part where Jacksonville made the trade with Tennessee one pick later?

Or are you thinking that they're locked in on the #5 pick for no reason whatsoever but would have no interest in the #4 pick?

Can you point to me anywhere in the original post...or in King's mock where the trade offer was made to Dallas?

Maybe they don't feel that Dallas has any interest in Tunsil....it's very easy to come to that conclusion. Jones himself has said it would be hard to take another OL high in the draft and it will be a bit cheaper for them to go to 5 then to 4.

 

[Stash]

Can you point to me anywhere in the original post...or in King's mock where the trade offer was made to Dallas?

Maybe they don't feel that Dallas has any interest in Tunsil....it's very easy to come to that conclusion. Jones himself has said it would be hard to take another OL high in the draft and it will be a bit cheaper for them to go to 5 then to 4.

And I guess, like you, they've failed to consider that another team might and would trade into Dallas' spot at #4?

I'd like to think that unlike fans, NFL teams consider all the variables involved.

Baltimore has the need and is sitting there at #6, bit I guess as long as Tennessee jumps up in front of them on the list, all is well? I mean, it's not like the Ravens could trade up themselves, right?

Oh wait...

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

And I guess, like you, they've failed to consider that another team might and would trade into Dallas' spot at #4?

I'd like to think that unlike fans, NFL teams consider all the variables involved.

Baltimore has the need and is sitting there at #6, bit I guess as long as Tennessee jumps up in front of them on the list, all is well? I mean, it's not like the Ravens could trade up themselves, right?

Oh wait...

Or they could do their due diligence and make a decision on their own that there isn't anyone else looking to trade up for Tunsil, not when you have Stanley and Conklin and Decker as options.

I think Baltimore has a hell of a lot more needs than they have picks and I don't see them jumping up when there are multiple guys available that fit for them.

You are just throwing random crap out there and trying to make it appear that Dallas is going to screw up no matter what they do. This is a mock...it's not what really happened or may happen. You can make up a billion scenarios if you want, but the general consensus is right now that the "trade up" party is over....San Diego is saying they aren't getting any calls since the Eagles moved up and there has been no mention of Dallas receiving any calls. Maybe they do have something worked out...I hope they do, because I don't see anyone at #4 that we have to have.

 

[Aven8]

I agree with most of that, other than the part of actually drafting Elliott.

If Ramsey goes #3, and I can't get the trade out offer, I'll 'settle' for the top prospect in the draft and make a great offensive line a line without a weak spot. Truly the greatest the league has ever seen. Not much more 'Romo friendly' than that.

You can either draft another quality running back later this year, or go with McFadden and Morris this year behind that teriffic line and then draft one from a better class of running backs in 2017.

And yet Romo will still have to scramble around because of 30 yard out patterns and 15 yard button hooks!!

 

[tyke1doe]

I remember we wanted Q Jammer


I remember we wanted Q Jammer out of Texas but the Chargers picked him ahead of us so we picked T New

Actually, we picked Roy Williams, safety from Oklahoma University, in the 2002 NFL Draft. We took him in the eighth spot.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Getting pissed off about a hypothetical trade that may or may not happen in a hypothetical mock draft from someone like King who said him missed around 20+ of last years picks in his mock draft.

Maybe...maybe you should save all of that pissed off attitude for other things.

Just something to consider.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Instead of saying Oh No Hawaii Light Winds...CLOUDS...replace it with Oh No they did not take a trade that they may or may not have been offered...what will we do...

 

[reddyuta]

There are good DEs in round two.

Zeke would be a move that shows we are all in. Romo was outstanding in 2014 with a great running game. Yes, McFadden put up some numbers last year but we didn't dominate. Zeke for about 15 carries a game, a fresh Morris laying a bit of lumber, and McFadden's speed against a tired D? That could be dominant.

So the no 4 pick on a guy who plays 15 snaps a game vs the best DE in the draft, seems like a easy choice to me.

 

[BigStar]

And yet Romo will still have to scramble around because of 30 yard out patterns and 15 yard button hooks!!

"Romo friendly" translated for JG means only Romo can pull off our lame scheme off w/o making it look as pitiful as it is as was last season = 4-12. Execution yada yada

 

[BigStar]

Getting pissed off about a hypothetical trade that may or may not happen in a hypothetical mock draft from someone like King who said him missed around 20+ of last years picks in his mock draft.

Maybe...maybe you should save all of that pissed off attitude for other things.

Just something to consider.

Well ya better dance or somethin...

 

[tyke1doe]

Instead of saying Oh No Hawaii Light Winds...CLOUDS...replace it with Oh No they did not take a trade that they may or may not have been offered...what will we do...

Is Conan still doing that bit on his cable late night show?
Insult meets Star Wars fans was a classic.

 

[Stash]

Or they could do their due diligence and make a decision on their own that there isn't anyone else looking to trade up for Tunsil, not when you have Stanley and Conklin and Decker as options.

I think Baltimore has a hell of a lot more needs than they have picks and I don't see them jumping up when there are multiple guys available that fit for them.

You are just throwing random crap out there and trying to make it appear that Dallas is going to screw up no matter what they do. This is a mock...it's not what really happened or may happen. You can make up a billion scenarios if you want, but the general consensus is right now that the "trade up" party is over....San Diego is saying they aren't getting any calls since the Eagles moved up and there has been no mention of Dallas receiving any calls. Maybe they do have something worked out...I hope they do, because I don't see anyone at #4 that we have to have.

Yeah, you're the guy who thinks that a trade for a pick at #5 is 'out of the question' for the team at #4 and have the nerve to claim someone else is "just throwing random crap out there".

Ignorant.

 

[Stash]

And yet Romo will still have to scramble around because of 30 yard out patterns and 15 yard button hooks!!

Can't do anything for ya on the coaching...

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Yeah, you're the guy who thinks that a trade for a pick at #5 is 'out of the question' for the team at #4 and have the nerve to claim someone else is "just throwing random crap out there".

Ignorant.

Ignorant is assuming that because an offer is made to one team it will be made to another. In the situation that was described with Tunsil, there isn't anyone that believes that Dallas will take Tunsil. So if they were worried about who Dallas is taking, they would trade with San Diego. The trade King posted makes complete sense given the teams and the likelihood of who would be available. Maybe it doesn't fit your scenario, but if Tunsil is the prime target and San Diego doesn't take him, I don't think there is any chance that a team trades with Dallas in that spot unless they can do it by giving Dallas much less back in return than what they should get.

And I am sure you would be completely cool with that.