Peter King on Cowherd

[fanfromvirginia]

Just listened to Cowherd interviewing Peter King on ESPN radio.

He had two interesting things to say. First, Bill Cowher will probably get a lot of interest during the offseason, including from Jerry Jones. Not surprising, but interesting nonetheless.

Second, Cowherd asked him a loaded question about Romo and King used it to talk about Cowboy offensive dysfunction, generally. He talked about how TO is getting way too many looks and said something like Roy Williams is "pissed off as hell" about his limited role. I don't suppose this is surprising either but I was struck by the vehement wording.

 

[Boysboy]

Just listened to Cowherd interviewing Peter King on ESPN radio.

He had two interesting things to say. First, Bill Cowher will probably get a lot of interest during the offseason, including from Jerry Jones. Not surprising, but interesting nonetheless.

Second, Cowherd asked him a loaded question about Romo and King used it to talk about Cowboy offensive dysfunction, generally. He talked about how TO is getting way too many looks and said something like Roy Williams is "pissed off as hell" about his limited role. I don't suppose this is surprising either but I was struck by the vehement wording.

Peter King must not have been watching our games this month. Owens was only thrown to 5 times in the Pitt and Giants games, respectively(and didn't get that much more looks in the Ravens game). Witten got twice more looks, and our other receivers had chances to make plays as well.

Oh-and Miles Austin was wide open for a TD last week but Romo overthrew him.

 

[sacase]

I am just suprised that RW doesn't have very many plays designed for him.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

I am just suprised that RW doesn't have very many plays designed for him.

Isn't that an example of how having a full training camp (or even a partial one, for that matter) under his belt will help him?

 

[cowboys2233]

He talked about how TO is getting way too many looks and said something like Roy Williams is "pissed off as hell" about his limited role. I don't suppose this is surprising either but I was struck by the vehement wording.

Yeah, sure he is. Roy just got PAID. He got out of Detroit. He plays for America's Team in his hometown state...

Yeah, that makes sense. That's what I was saying about Peter King -- he simply runs with rumors but isn't smart enough to discern whether or not they make any sense. No logic there whatsoever. Roy himself said it takes a full offseason and TC for a receiver to get fully in synch with a QB. Roy isn't even close to being "pissed off as hell." Heck, it's not even in his character even if all the other things I pointed out weren't true.

 

[Boysboy]

Isn't that an example of how having a full training camp (or even a partial one, for that matter) under his belt will help him?

As we've said many times-he's still familiarizing himself with the playbook.

 

[MONT17]

the Roy trade is looking better everyday! maybe we can trade our number 2 pick for Chad Johnson...

 

[ethiostar]

I am just suprised that RW doesn't have very many plays designed for him.

I'm surprised as well. We either hand off the ball to the RB or toss it to him OR throw about 20 yards down field. RW is perfect for the slant with his big body and great hands. Why not use that to move the chain and give our defense some rest. We can still go for the big play when we need to or to mix it up a bit but why not control the clock, throw some slants and move the chain?

 

[TNCowboy]

Many Cowboy fans hate Peter King and Colin Cowherd because they're exactly right about the Cowboys.

 

[Boysboy]

Many Cowboy fans hate Peter King and Colin Cowherd because they're exactly right about the Cowboys.

Did you even watch our games the last 3 weeks?

 

[cowboys2233]

I'm surprised as well. We either hand off the ball to the RB or toss it to him OR throw about 20 yards down field. RW is perfect for the slant with his big body and great hands. Why not use that to move the chain and give our defense some rest. We can still go for the big play when we need to or to mix it up a bit but why not control the clock, throw some slants and move the chain?

Because Roy isn't Steve Smith, either in quickness or in toughness. Nor is he Michael Irvin, who was great at using his body. If we trying throwing slants to Roy Williams, they will most assuredly get picked off by the DB who is blanketing him.

I thought the comments Wade about throwing the ball to Roy were laughable. Didn't he say something to the effect that Roy isn't often open, but we still need to throw him the ball because of his height advantage? Yeah, swell idea Wade. Let's just let Tony be responsible for placing the ball at the perfect height every time so Roy can get it but the defender can't.

Here's a better idea -- how about the guy you just gave a billion dollars to, the guy you gave up multiple draft picks for, get *****' open?

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Faux Genius's utter inability to get RW11 involved in the game is one of the most baffling things about this year's team.

 

[cowboys2233]

Faux Genius's utter inability to get RW11 involved in the game is one of the most baffling things about this year's team.

Why? That just means you think Roy is an all-world receiver and you just assume he is getting open with regularity. Many on here disagreed with getting him in the first place, me included.

Roy being completely ineffective is exactly what I (and others) thought was going to happen because I (and others) think he is completely OVERRATED.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, sure he is. Roy just got PAID. He got out of Detroit. He plays for America's Team in his hometown state...

Yeah, that makes sense. That's what I was saying about Peter King -- he simply runs with rumors but isn't smart enough to discern whether or not they make any sense. No logic there whatsoever. Roy himself said it takes a full offseason and TC for a receiver to get fully in synch with a QB. Roy isn't even close to being "pissed off as hell." Heck, it's not even in his character even if all the other things I pointed out weren't true.

How would you know that?

You mean he doesn't get angry or PO'ed?

Second, if it takes a receiver a full offseason and Training Camp to get in sync with the Qb (and I'm not disputing this), why is Roy out there as much as he is as opposed to Crayton and Austin?

You mean to tell me that the Cowboys can't find a way to get him the ball since he's out on the field?

Or is his role simply to be a decoy?

If he's not ready and the Cowboys aren't ready to get him the ball, then he needs to be on the sidelines. If he's in the game, he should get the ball more - otherwise why is he on the field?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, sure he is. Roy just got PAID. He got out of Detroit. He plays for America's Team in his hometown state...

Yeah, that makes sense. That's what I was saying about Peter King -- he simply runs with rumors but isn't smart enough to discern whether or not they make any sense.

And what's more, probably doesn't even care if they're true or make sense.

All they have to be are hot-button talking points, and that's good enough.

 

[Randy White]

Why? That just means you think Roy is an all-world receiver and you just assume he is getting open with regularity. Many on here disagreed with getting him in the first place, me included.

Roy being completely ineffective is exactly what I (and others) thought was going to happen because I (and others) think he is completely OVERRATED.

which is why you have no clue at what you're talking about.

Unless you're on the film room, or on the coach's booth, or on the field, you have NO idea if RW is getting open or not. This is a guy who barely gets the ball thrown his way 3-4 times PER game, a number that T.O. gets in alot of drives by itself.

You're saying that Romo actually looks RW's way, but since he's not open, he then chooses to throw to T.O. or Witten. As if Tony has that much time to begin with.

 

[cowboys2233]

which is why you have no clue at what you're talking about.

You're saying that Romo actually looks RW's way, but since he's not open, he then chooses to throw to T.O. or Witten. As if Tony has that much time to begin with.

So you're saying a QB isn't capable of looking to one receiver, seeing he isn't open, and then going to a different guy?

What exactly do you think QBs do? And I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about? And quite honestly, if Romo has looked Roy's way often enough and he isn't open 90% of the time, why should he continue to look his way?

 

[DenairPete]

Because Roy isn't Steve Smith, either in quickness or in toughness. Nor is he Michael Irvin, who was great at using his body. If we trying throwing slants to Roy Williams, they will most assuredly get picked off by the DB who is blanketing him.

I thought the comments Wade about throwing the ball to Roy were laughable. Didn't he say something to the effect that Roy isn't often open, but we still need to throw him the ball because of his height advantage? Yeah, swell idea Wade. Let's just let Tony be responsible for placing the ball at the perfect height every time so Roy can get it but the defender can't.

Here's a better idea -- how about the guy you just gave a billion dollars to, the guy you gave up multiple draft picks for, get *****' open?

If you go back and rewatch the Ravens game, you will see that he was open a few times. And each of those times, Romo went to someone else. This was also stated by Deon Sanders. The problem on our team is Jason Garrett and the Head Coach who can't tell the OC, "You don't know what the hell your doing". If our Head Coach had the balls to tell him that, Jerry "The real head coach" Jones would slap his chubby hand.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

So you're saying a QB isn't capable of looking to one receiver, seeing he isn't open, and then going to a different guy?

What exactly do you think QBs do? And I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about? And quite honestly, if Romo has looked Roy's way often enough and he isn't open 90% of the time, why should he continue to look his way?

You guys have hit on two essential, unanswered but answerable questions: 1) Is RW getting open and 2) Is Romo looking his way.

I don't see much evidence either way, just assertions. Anybody got evidence one way or the other?

 

[Randy White]

in 2008, including with Detroit:

Targeted = 74
Receptions = 34


T.O.:

Targeted = 130
Receptions = 63



Jason Witten:

Targeted = 110
Receptions = 74


I'll be generous and say that half of those targeted were in Dallas. That would leave RW with 37 attempt in 9 games, an average of 4 per game, 1 per quarter.

Yea, but " he's not getting open "...