Peterson

[RW31]

Absolutely not.

He IS fast, but not the fastest. Have you ever seen Dante Hall or Devin Hester with the ball in their hands?

Please. Devin Hester's top end speed is solid, that's it. The guy gets constantly caught up from behind when trying to return punts. He's very agile and his acceleration is excellent, but his speed is not that great. Peterson would smoke him in a foot race.

 

[Stash]

He leads the NFL in rushing, I repeat, he leads the NFL in rushing, what are you even talking about?

He is not the reason they may go 5-11. In case you didn't notice, they have no QB.

I'm talking about the fact that the coach of the Vikings - Brad Childress - is an absolute moron.

I'm talking about the fact that Peterson leads the league in rushing despite that aforementioned moron holding him back.

In case you didn't notice, that's Childress' hand-picked quarterback out there attempting to throw to Childress' hand-picked 'receivers'.

Peterson is certainly not the reason they'll go 5-11, the reincarnation of Rich Kotite is the reason for the 11 losses.

Peterson would be the sole reason for the 5 wins.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm talking about the fact that the coach of the Vikings - Brad Childress - is an absolute moron.

I'm talking about the fact that Peterson leads the league in rushing despite that aforementioned moron holding him back.

In case you didn't notice, that's Childress' hand-picked quarterback out there attempting to throw to Childress' hand-picked 'receivers'.

Peterson is certainly not the reason they'll go 5-11, the reincarnation of Rich Kotite is the reason for the 11 losses.

Peterson would be the sole reason for the 5 wins.

So you would run a rookie RB into the ground and get him beat up, hurt, or injured for a 6th or 7th win.

Who else is a moron?

 

[Stash]

So you would run a rookie RB into the ground and get him beat up, hurt, or injured for a 6th or 7th win.

Who else is a moron?

No, I'd 'save him' and go 5-11 like Childress is.

That's about as brilliant as stubbornly starting a QB who can't play or trading for bench players like Artis Hicks and Billy McMullen.

Sorry that Childress is apparently a relative of yours but the guy is flat-out terrible.

Put Peterson in a trophy case and stare at him instead.

I would draft players to play them.

My goal would be to win games.

Maybe the Patriots should rest Tom Brady so they don't risk injuring him, huh?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Maybe the Patriots should rest Tom Brady so they don't risk injuring him, huh?

Comments like that make you look silly.

Listen, I would have run him more than 12 times myself.

The kid is a rookie, he has never played this many games in a season, and he has never played against this physical of players.

Running him into the ground just to win a 6th or 7th game is not only irresponsible, but it is stupid.

But if you can't understand what their coaches are doing with Peterson, then just look at the Cowboys.

Why do you think Barber doesn't carry 25 times a game?

 

[Stash]

Comments like that make you look silly.

Really?

Why would that be?

I'd equate it to just as stupid a decision as what Brad Brainless is doing.

Listen, I would have run him more than 12 times myself.

The kid is a rookie, he has never played this many games in a season, and he has never played against this physical of players.

Running him into the ground just to win a 6th or 7th game is not only irresponsible, but it is stupid.

But if you can't understand what their coaches are doing with Peterson, then just look at the Cowboys.

Why do you think Barber doesn't carry 25 times a game?

I would question that as well. Barber should be starting for this team, that has been proven over and over again.

If you have a great player you play him. If you're going into every week fearing injuries, you'll lose.

Injuries either happen or they don't. It's not something you can control.

In my opinion, a coach's first obligation is to put his team in the best position to win.

And isn't it funny how Childress wasn't 'protecting' him last week when he was running wild against the Bears?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think it's stupid to run the guy 25 times a game in his rookie year. Heck, in any year. Emmitt only carried like 22 times a game.

Peterson is a great talent and nobody on this board was a bigger fan of his then me. That said, this is the NFL and you don't break a young player on the rocks like that. Especially when you have a defense like the one they have. They need experience at QB and in the passing game. You don't kill a great young talent by running him to death so you can have an 8-8 season IMO. I saw Earl Campbell play in Houston. I watched him kill himself for a team that was not very good. I've seen that man today and what it cost him. It's a tough sport but it doesn't have to be overly so.

I think the Vikes are doing the right thing in limiting him a bit.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Really?

Why would that be?

Any comment about not playing Brady makes you look silly. Especially because you were trying to be sarcastic. If you don't recognize the difference between a veteran, All-Pro, Super Bowl MVP QB and a rookie RB, then I am wasting my time. Which I already suspected.

I would question that as well. Barber should be starting for this team, that has been proven over and over again.

In my opinion, a coach's first obligation is to put his team in the best position to win.

WP is 6-1 as the Cowboys HC while bringing in MB3 off the bench.

And isn't it funny how Childress wasn't 'protecting' him last week when he was running wild against the Bears?

Right, was he a moron then, or did he just become one yesterday.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I think it's stupid to run the guy 25 times a game in his rookie year. Heck, in any year. Emmitt only carried like 22 times a game.

Peterson is a great talent and nobody on this board was a bigger fan of his then me. That said, this is the NFL and you don't break a young player on the rocks like that. Especially when you have a defense like the one they have. They need experience at QB and in the passing game. You don't kill a great young talent by running him to death so you can have an 8-8 season IMO. I saw Earl Campbell play in Houston. I watched him kill himself for a team that was not very good. I've seen that man today and what it cost him. It's a tough sport but it doesn't have to be overly so.

I think the Vikes are doing the right thing in limiting him a bit.

Makes good sense to me.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

That 230 or whatever yards AD hung on the Bears wasn't on that many more touches than what he got against us.

I guarantee you that if the Vikes second and third drives had gone like the first one where they ran it all over us, Childress would have kept running it. But we started stopping them. Bradie was on 103.3 an hour or so ago, and he said the Vikes O-line was using some deceptive footwork that they hadn't seen before, but they figured that out made the adjustments they needed to make after the first drive.

Anyway... As far as the fastest in pads thing, that's absurd. He might be as fast as any 220 pound guy, though.

I think the main thing about Peterson is that he runs so hard every single play. He's like Barber only with a ton more speed.

 

[Stash]

Any comment about not playing Brady makes you look silly. Especially because you were trying to be sarcastic. If you don't recognize the difference between a veteran, All-Pro, Super Bowl MVP QB and a rookie RB, then I am wasting my time. Which I already suspected.

It's the same level of stupidity. If you're attempting to defend Childress, then you are wasting your time.

WP is 6-1 as the Cowboys HC while bringing in MB3 off the bench.

Well, staring Julius Jones must be the reason then, huh? Now who looks silly?

Right, was he a moron then, or did he just become one yesterday.

The guy is, was, and always will be a moron. Again, sorry if the two of you are related. If you think he's doing a good job you need help.

 

[vicjagger]

Well, you obviously haven't heard about Isiah Stanback. He runs a 4.58 w/o pads and something like a 2.75 in pads.

 

[JerryFan]

Hester is unreal. He is the fastest guy in the NFL period and I'd have a hard time believing anybody in the history of the NFL could str8 up out run him.

 

[WV Cowboy]

It's the same level of stupidity.

Seriously ?? You don't get it ??

You don't see the difference between not playing Brady, a veteran QB who rarely gets touched, .. and not running a rookie RB, (not even a year out of college) against NFL defenses 25+ times a game over a 16, 18 or 20 game schedule?

You don't see how silly you sound?

I'm beginning to understand your avatar now.

I'm done here, you can have the last word.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Hester is unreal. He is the fastest guy in the NFL period and I'd have a hard time believing anybody in the history of the NFL could str8 up out run him.

:spanking:

He's not the only one, but think about a guy named Bob Hayes.

 

[Stash]

Seriously ?? You don't get it ??

You don't see the difference between not playing Brady, a veteran QB who rarely gets touched, .. and not running a rookie RB, (not even a year out of college) against NFL defenses 25+ times a game over a 16, 18 or 20 game schedule?

You don't see how silly you sound?

I'm beginning to understand your avatar now.

I'm done here, you can have the last word.

Great, thanks.

Spare me the nonsense that a veteran is somehow less likely to get injured because he's a veteran. Peterson is that team's only playmaker.

I think the guy should be starting over Taylor and getting more opportunities.

If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

But if I were the coach, I would have my playmakers on the field.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

For what it's worth, I do think there is something to the Vets being able to prepare for a season better then a Rookie. Typically, Rookies don't understand the grind of the season. They don't know how to prepare for it the way vets do. They haven't had the advantage of a full off season and lastly, they usually aren't fully developed from a physical standpoint. Now physically, Peterson might be an exception to this last but, it's still relivant IMO. I do think there is something to Vets preparing for a season better because they are Vets. JMO

 

[Stash]

For what it's worth, I do think there is something to the Vets being able to prepare for a season better then a Rookie. Typically, Rookies don't understand the grind of the season. They don't know how to prepare for it the way vets do. They haven't had the advantage of a full off season and lastly, they usually aren't fully developed from a physical standpoint. Now physically, Peterson might be an exception to this last but, it's still relivant IMO. I do think there is something to Vets preparing for a season better because they are Vets. JMO

And I respect your opinion.

As I would appreciate my opinion getting the same respect.

I can see both sides of it, I just happen to think that Peterson is an exceptional player.

I compare him to Eric Dickerson, a guy who started out strong and had a Hall of Fame career.

 

[ddh33]

AD has the most impressive burst in the league, in my opinion. That guy has an entirely different gear, and he gets to it in a hurry.

I know exactly what people mean when they say they cringed every time he touched the ball. He doesn't need much at all to take it to the house.

 

[joseephuss]

I am not defending Childress. I don't know if he is a good coach or a bad coach at this point. I do lean toward bad. I don't see the problem with how Peterson was used yesterday. The guy he was sharing carries with had some decent numbers. Together the two combined for 22 carries, 110 yards and 1 TD. The problem is their passing game. Both runners would have received more carries if the Vike's offense could have completed more passes.

Peterson is fast, but I don't know if his top end speed is the fastest in the NFL. He is very fast for a RB and one that has his size, but there are faster guys.