PFF grades for Colts game: Jonathon Cooper gets their game ball for highest grade

ConceptCoop

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Lets look at this closer. Assume that they use two people per team- one defense and one offense. Each has around 50 plays to look at; leave out ST.
There is 11 players to look at. Say you spend 2 minutes per play on each player. 50 X 11 = 550. 550 X 2 minutes = 1100 minutes. 1100 divided by 60 = 18 hours+. THEN supposedly those results are looked at by former HCs. Even if you only spend 1 minutes per play per player it does not wash.

If we pretend we know how many people are reviewing each game--and how long it takes them. Also, there are plenty of plays in which you wouldn't need to review for all 22 players. You don't need to evaluate a QB on simple handoffs. There are plenty of plays where the safeties are never involved, for another example.
 

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If we pretend we know how many people are reviewing each game--and how long it takes them. Also, there are plenty of plays in which you wouldn't need to review for all 22 players. You don't need to evaluate a QB on simple handoffs. There are plenty of plays where the safeties are never involved, for another example.

You do know PFF only has 80 full time employees right?

So with 32 teams and say two to a team that is 64 people right there.
 

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You do know PFF only has 80 full time employees right?

So with 32 teams and say two to a team that is 64 people right there.

That would a really ineffecient way to do it. Have the whole team work on the early games until they're done, then move on to the afternoon games, et cetera.
 

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That would a really ineffecient way to do it. Have the whole team work on the early games until they're done, then move on to the afternoon games, et cetera.


No actually if you want QUALITY you have people assigned to specific teams as to be familiar with them. See that is their claim- QUALITY.

I am saying the numbers just do not add up.
 

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No actually if you want QUALITY you have people assigned to specific teams as to be familiar with them. See that is their claim- QUALITY.

I am saying the numbers just do not add up.

Nothing about their grades are team specific. The numbers don't add up if we assume for varialbes that we just don't have. But what good does that do us?
 

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Nothing about their grades are team specific. The numbers don't add up if we assume for varialbes that we just don't have. But what good does that do us?

You are assuming they do line up and I say they don't just on pure numbers. You are unable to argue the numbers so you just keep saying vaguely I cannot prove it. I know you really are on their bandwagon but you ought to step back and think on all this.
 

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It's doable.

With the right system in place, you'd be surprised how much you can get done.

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You are assuming they do line up and I say they don't just on pure numbers. You are unable to argue the numbers so you just keep saying vaguely I cannot prove it. I know you really are on their bandwagon but you ought to step back and think on all this.

50 plays * 22 players = 1,100 views. 1,100 views * 2 minutes = 2,200 minutes or 36.6 hours. 80 analysts/16 games = 5 analysts/game. 36.6 hrs/5 analysts = 7.3 hours.

Boom. There's some "pure numbers" for you.
 

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I thought he looked good and looked good at center. Cooper should be 'the guy' for the LG spot. He's starting to show that quick first step with good power. I think they should start giving him the lion's share of the reps, but I can understand why they want to move him around a little. It helps in case Fred goes down (I'm not a fan of Looney at center) and it also gives guys like Green and Bell reps at LG in case Cooper goes down or Fred goes down and we move Cooper to center.

I really like Cooper's pass protection as he's got a lot of moves and knows the techniques to keep pass rushers off balance. Broaddus talked about this and he's spot on with his assessment. But against the Colts was that first time we saw some impressive run blocking by Cooper. If everybody can stay healthy, we will essentially have five 1st round talents playing on the O-Line.





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I assume that Cooper Rush was so great that their grading system couldn't accurately grade how great his performance was?!

Green Bay people losing their mind over the play of the kid from UCLA?!

Totally backhanded praise by PFF for Dak








Despite this evidence, you will never hear ANYBODY say Brady threw to wide open receivers. "Brady ran him WIDE Open"

I've never seen the big goof win a game when he was under pressure-- ask the Giants and Broncos

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I don't think this is intended as a statement suggesting Cooper is better; I think this has more to do with Green's value as a swing every offensive line position save center. And Cooper can play Center in a pinch.
 

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I thought Cooper was outstanding in the game and would also give a big thumbs up to Chaz Green on his play. I think this Cowboys line will improve from what we have seen in the recent past.

IF Green can stay healthy, it will be huge for this team. Really big deal that he can play 16 plus games. Fingers crossed.
 

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50 plays * 22 players = 1,100 views. 1,100 views * 2 minutes = 2,200 minutes or 36.6 hours. 80 analysts/16 games = 5 analysts/game. 36.6 hrs/5 analysts = 7.3 hours.

Boom. There's some "pure numbers" for you.
Each team has 60 to 70 plays on offense. That's up to 140 total snaps not counting special teams.

140/50 = 2.8

2.8 x 7.6 = 21.28 hours per analyst
 
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