PFF Grades vs Skids

[RS12]

vs Skids

Why didnt I come up with that one? I am slipping.

 

[America's Cowboy]

How has Biadasz been rated? Since he isnt getting hammered every week I have to assume he is doing well. And since Farniok isnt being hailed as the next great center I have to also assume he continues to do poorly.

The great new Center is now in Miami...as I said he would become had this coaching staff had a clue. If Farniok was given a chance, he would beat out Biadasz. As for Farniok, how did McGovern and Peters do replacing him? They didn't do very well. No movement on run plays. No push, no open holes/lanes. That left side (which was strong the previous 2+ games during the run when Farniok and Tyler Smith were combo starting) was rolling very well prior to yesterday's game. Everyone cried for a change, yet what happened? The rushing attack went to crap and the Left side looked very bad.

But I'm sure PFF will give them decent good ratings just so PFF can cover their own clueless rear ends.

 

[aikemirv]

Well, a WR, for example, can drop everything for 3 quarters but if they lay out for a game winning TD, did they have a bad game? PFFs grading system does not have a way to adequately account for big plays. Big plays are rare for OL, for example, so their grading scale is truer for them. If a CB gives up a 10 yarder on 3rd and 15, the CB gets dinged in their system. Thats not fair. So, if Trevon gives up easy passes all game but comes up with a game winning INT, the PFF grade will be quite poor. Get it?

I don't understand your analysis. If the WR dropped everything for the first 3 qtrs and the CB gave up plays all game, then yes they had a bad game, no matter what they did on one play in the 4th. Their play was probably why they needed to come up with the big play to win in the first place!

 

[JD_KaPow]

But they use the same grading system. If they suck for one position, how are they better for another?

I have no particular opinion about their grading system, but it wouldn't be surprising that a single methodology would do a better job evaluating the performance of one position group than another.

 

[JD_KaPow]

PFF has him as the 45th ranked OT. He is not really excelling at anything. His performance is what you might expect from a rookie who got no reps in TC or preseason at OT. He is winging it and learning as goes. But, Tyron will be a big upgrade when he comes back and I expect Tyler to slide back to G and Peters to be the swing tackle.

Really, you'd expect a rookie with no reps at a position to be roughly league-average at that position? I sure wouldn't!

 

[Mr_437]

Playing Peters at LT and Tyler at LG just makes too much sense.

Tyler would be ELITE at LG Instead of just average-good at LT.

For me it depends on where Peters will be at his best. If Peters is better at LT, I feel Smith should be moved inside provided Peters play is at a high level still at LT.

I agree with you @BAT because Smith has proved he'll be ready to play LT when asked now or in the future, but Smith playing LG now might better for the OL overall.

 

[conner01]

Game ball to Trevon Diggs! PFF has historically graded him wrong and unfairly. Well, they got it right this week. It was a hell of a week for the secondary.

This was our super hero's worst game of the year. Micah graded out at 54 for those interested.

Top Defensive performers:

1. Trevon Diggs 91.4 (!!)
2. Donavan Wilson. 81.9
3. Hooker 74.2
4. Brown 72.1
5. LVE 69.9. He did tackle very well. His tackling grade was 81. They are not grading where he makes the tackle. Nobody offers stats that sophisticated. A tackle 10 yards down field shows up on the stat page the same way a tackle made 1 yard beyond the LOS.

Top Offensive Performers

1. CD Lamb. 75.4
2. Steele 72.0
3. Noah Brown 69.9
4. Zach Martin 67.9
5. Zeke. 64.0

I never hear Steele named mentioned
And that’s a good thing
Quietly playing good football

 

[Starstruck22]

Game ball to Trevon Diggs! PFF has historically graded him wrong and unfairly. Well, they got it right this week. It was a hell of a week for the secondary.

This was our super hero's worst game of the year. Micah graded out at 54 for those interested.

Top Defensive performers:

1. Trevon Diggs 91.4 (!!)
2. Donavan Wilson. 81.9
3. Hooker 74.2
4. Brown 72.1
5. LVE 69.9. He did tackle very well. His tackling grade was 81. They are not grading where he makes the tackle. Nobody offers stats that sophisticated. A tackle 10 yards down field shows up on the stat page the same way a tackle made 1 yard beyond the LOS.

Top Offensive Performers

1. CD Lamb. 75.4
2. Steele 72.0
3. Noah Brown 69.9
4. Zach Martin 67.9
5. Zeke. 64.0

Tackling grades are indeed specious. LVE was awarded a tackle 20 yards downfield after the first down marker and for tackling Parsons tackling the runner. So totally specious. Saying wolf boy is tackling well completely overlooks where he tackles, when he tackles, and who he tackles (tackling Parsons was indeed a great tackle). You never, absolutely never see wolf boy shooting the gap, in the gap first hitter, in the backfield or anything resembling a great play. He is protecting his neck and rides the back of the pack. Many of his so called tacklers are at the far reaches of the scrum.

 

[Starstruck22]

Game ball to Trevon Diggs! PFF has historically graded him wrong and unfairly. Well, they got it right this week. It was a hell of a week for the secondary.

This was our super hero's worst game of the year. Micah graded out at 54 for those interested.

Top Defensive performers:

1. Trevon Diggs 91.4 (!!)
2. Donavan Wilson. 81.9
3. Hooker 74.2
4. Brown 72.1
5. LVE 69.9. He did tackle very well. His tackling grade was 81. They are not grading where he makes the tackle. Nobody offers stats that sophisticated. A tackle 10 yards down field shows up on the stat page the same way a tackle made 1 yard beyond the LOS.

Top Offensive Performers

1. CD Lamb. 75.4
2. Steele 72.0
3. Noah Brown 69.9
4. Zach Martin 67.9
5. Zeke. 64.0

Parsons had a great game and graded lower than a guy that had a terrible game. Why are we still talking about the specious tackling stat? Meaningless.

 

[Mr_437]

The great new Center is now in Miami...as I said he would become had this coaching staff had a clue. If Farniok was given a chance, he would beat out Biadasz. As for Farniok, how did McGovern and Peters do replacing him? They didn't do very well. No movement on run plays. No push, no open holes/lanes. That left side (which was strong the previous 2+ games during the run when Farniok and Tyler Smith were combo starting) was rolling very well prior to yesterday's game. Everyone cried for a change, yet what happened? The rushing attack went to crap and the Left side looked very bad.

But I'm sure PFF will give them decent good ratings just so PFF can cover their own clueless rear ends.

Uh oh...Interested to see a breakdown on that LG spot after this post.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Uh oh...Interested to see a breakdown on that LG spot after this post.

Peters got a 57
McGovern got a 44
Biadasz got a 43 (Much better in pass pro than run blocking)

LG continues to be an issue, although this was a tough matchup with Washingtons DTs.....bad news is it wont get any easier this coming Sunday.

 

[Mr_437]

Peters got a 57
McGovern got a 44
Biadasz got a 43 (Much better in pass pro than run blocking)

LG continues to be an issue, although this was a tough matchup with Washingtons DTs.....bad news is it wont get any easier this coming Sunday.

Thanks! And your exactly right, it's only going to get worse with Mr. Donald on the schedule, and LG looks to be an issue that needs fixing asap.

 

[starfan1]

washington front 4 is good without Chase Young wait till he comes back so I cant fault the line so much as thats a good front 4. Not unlike tampa bay except they have a good front 7

 

[Teague31]

Anyone missing La’el these days? Steele is killing it.

 

[stilltheguru]

If I gave you 10 years to come up with a detailed explanation of why Martin outplayed Steele you'd come up with nothing. Stop talking like you know anything about football

So then Steele out played Martin on Sunday?

No.

 

[SackMaster]

PFF has him as the 45th ranked OT. He is not really excelling at anything. His performance is what you might expect from a rookie who got no reps in TC or preseason at OT. He is winging it and learning as goes. But, Tyron will be a big upgrade when he comes back and I expect Tyler to slide back to G and Peters to be the swing tackle.

I don't have an issue for moving Tyler to G to accommodate Tyron coming back. But if Tyron goes back down, I sure hope they move Tyler back out to LT and keep Peters at LG.

If Peters takes a single snap at LT while Tyron and/or Tyler is healthy, then someone made a poor decision.

Now if Steele was to get injured, sure, put Peters at RT and keep Tyler at LG/LT. But if either Smith is healthy, they are the LT.

JMHO

 

[john van brocklin]

Game ball to Trevon Diggs! PFF has historically graded him wrong and unfairly. Well, they got it right this week. It was a hell of a week for the secondary.

This was our super hero's worst game of the year. Micah graded out at 54 for those interested.

Top Defensive performers:

1. Trevon Diggs 91.4 (!!)
2. Donavan Wilson. 81.9
3. Hooker 74.2
4. Brown 72.1
5. LVE 69.9. He did tackle very well. His tackling grade was 81. They are not grading where he makes the tackle. Nobody offers stats that sophisticated. A tackle 10 yards down field shows up on the stat page the same way a tackle made 1 yard beyond the LOS.

Top Offensive Performers

1. CD Lamb. 75.4
2. Steele 72.0
3. Noah Brown 69.9
4. Zach Martin 67.9
5. Zeke. 64.0

Don't think Parsons is 100%

 

[stilltheguru]

Don't think Parsons is 100%

He's been going 100 mph. Hope he is getting all the physical therapy treatment he can. You don't play like he does and not take care of your body and survive

 

[john van brocklin]

He's been going 100 mph. Hope he is getting all the physical therapy treatment he can. You don't play like he does and not take care of your body and survive

I think he could still be ill.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Parsons had a great game and graded lower than a guy that had a terrible game. Why are we still talking about the specious tackling stat? Meaningless.

Parsons had 1 QB pressure. He did not have a "great game". It was his worst of the season.