PFF: Pollard's pass protection against Bucs was better than Zeke's

[AbeBeta]

I don't pay any attention to PFF but I know a lot of you Lambda Lambda Lambda alumni do. I can't verify if this is true but at the 6:45 mark of this video it's stated this is what PFF is telling you. Pollard was a better pass protector against the Bucs.

I think that is because they credited Pollard's whiff to Smith. Hard to know but Pollard looked bad on that one

 

[atlantacowboy]

I don't pay any attention to PFF but I know a lot of you Lambda Lambda Lambda alumni do. I can't verify if this is true but at the 6:45 mark of this video it's stated this is what PFF is telling you. Pollard was a better pass protector against the Bucs.

Zeke wasn't good in pass protection Sunday for whatever reason. Pollard scored higher but played a lot less. I wouldn't conclude anything. Its one game.

 

[Denim Chicken]

 

[Ebnorice]

If only we could talk about how explosive and awesome Zeke is instead of his blocking ability in comparison to Pollard. I suppose this is all that tubby has left. It is what it is. I thought his receiving stats could never get worse than he was last year. So far 1 reception for -3 yards. Zeke always proving me wrong. Imagine if he finishes the year with negative receiving yardage. That would truly be something.

Zeke was the far better runner then pollard.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Think he is talking about people who believe in ghosts and will just keep it there.

Just dont take your kids out for pizza in DC and you should be ok

 

[Loso86]

I don't pay any attention to PFF but I know a lot of you Lambda Lambda Lambda alumni do. I can't verify if this is true but at the 6:45 mark of this video it's stated this is what PFF is telling you. Pollard was a better pass protector against the Bucs.

Lmao what Pollard was the back in there when Dak got sacked the most!

 

[RonnieT24]

I think that is because they credited Pollard's whiff to Smith. Hard to know but Pollard looked bad on that one

Nope.. Smith was graded out to have only allowed one pressure and no sacks if I recall correctly.

 

[G2]

Nope.. Smith was graded out to have only allowed one pressure and no sacks if I recall correctly.

One sack I think? Still good though.

 

[RonnieT24]

Zeke wasn't good in pass protection Sunday for whatever reason. Pollard scored higher but played a lot less. I wouldn't conclude anything. Its one game.

White got two sacks basically by steamrolling Pollard. Also according to Owning Pollard played more pass pro snaps than Zeke did. The main thing is that Zeke didn't give up sacks on his two alleged "losses." My guess is because unlike Pollard he provided at least some resistance and slowed the guy down enough to keep him from decapitating the QB. In the end neither of them is going to always stonewall blitzing linebackers or leaking d-linemen. They don't have enough rocks in their pocket. But it's key that they at least slow the guy down and buy Dak/Rush time to either run out of the pocket or get rid of the ball.

 

[RonnieT24]

On sack

Oh they did charge him with one sack? I had read an article stating that he didn't give up a sack but I guess they revised it. Okay.. still not bad for a rookie in his first start against a pro-bowl caliber DE. I think the kid held his own.. which means if Peters is ready to go they should really think long and hard about plugging him in at guard and having a 700 pound wall of humanity on that left side.

 

[G2]

Oh they did charge him with one sack? I had read an article stating that he didn't give up a sack but I guess they revised it. Okay.. still not bad for a rookie in his first start against a pro-bowl caliber DE. I think the kid held his own.. which means if Peters is ready to go they should really think long and hard about plugging him in at guard and having a 700 pound wall of humanity on that left side.

I don't remember him giving one up. I do remember him driving a defender off the screen.

 

[RonnieT24]

I don't remember him giving one up. I do remember him driving a defender off the screen.

Yeah that was great!! He did it a couple of times on running plays. Dude is freaky powerful even for someone his size. He may be even stronger than Tyron which seems almost blasphemous to say. Even if he's not as strong as Tyron in the upper body he has wider hips and bigger thighs so his base is going to be stronger. It's sad that we probably won't ever get to see the two of them lined up side by side crushing fools.

 

[atlantacowboy]

White got two sacks basically by steamrolling Pollard. Also according to Owning Pollard played more pass pro snaps than Zeke did. The main thing is that Zeke didn't give up sacks on his two alleged "losses." My guess is because unlike Pollard he provided at least some resistance and slowed the guy down enough to keep him from decapitating the QB. In the end neither of them is going to always stonewall blitzing linebackers or leaking d-linemen. They don't have enough rocks in their pocket. But it's key that they at least slow the guy down and buy Dak/Rush time to either run out of the pocket or get rid of the ball.

You are referencing 2 plays. Thats not how PFF grades. They are grading every play. Neither guy scored very well in blocking, if it makes you feel any better.

 

[terra]

White got two sacks basically by steamrolling Pollard. Also according to Owning Pollard played more pass pro snaps than Zeke did. The main thing is that Zeke didn't give up sacks on his two alleged "losses." My guess is because unlike Pollard he provided at least some resistance and slowed the guy down enough to keep him from decapitating the QB. In the end neither of them is going to always stonewall blitzing linebackers or leaking d-linemen. They don't have enough rocks in their pocket. But it's key that they at least slow the guy down and buy Dak/Rush time to either run out of the pocket or get rid of the ball.

No RB is going to be able to stone a DL - just no way unless the D lineman is pretty pathetic. The size and power differential is just too great.
RBs are expected to be able to stone most rushing LBs but are only expected to slow down a rushing DL
PFF is bs in its ratings and always has been; sure they CLAIM to watch every snap but they STILL do not know what the actual responsibilities are on any one play. AND they simply do not take the time to really analyze each play- simply because they cannot. It is noticeable if you look that many of the so called ratings of players do not seem to count with teams.

 

[RonnieT24]

No RB is going to be able to stone a DL - just no way unless the D lineman is pretty pathetic. The size and power differential is just too great.
RBs are expected to be able to stone most rushing LBs but are only expected to slow down a rushing DL
PFF is bs in its ratings and always has been; sure they CLAIM to watch every snap but they STILL do not know what the actual responsibilities are on any one play. AND they simply do not take the time to really analyze each play- simply because they cannot. It is noticeable if you look that many of the so called ratings of players do not seem to count with teams.

I have been on record stating that PFF grades are pure BS for many years. They are the equivalent of a teacher grading papers without knowing the questions. They just mark you right or wrong based on their best guess. I took them seriously for a hot minute when they first came out until I realized that they handed out grades before the NFL releases the all-22 access. Which means they actually try to grade based on the TV feed. That sealed it for me. They don't know assignments, coverages, routes, line slants, stunts, which hole a play was designed to hit.. none of it.. yet they're handing out grades? GTFOH!!!

 

[AbeBeta]

Nope.. Smith was graded out to have only allowed one pressure and no sacks if I recall correctly.

I read 2 pressures and a sack.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't pay any attention to PFF but I know a lot of you Lambda Lambda Lambda alumni do. I can't verify if this is true but at the 6:45 mark of this video it's stated this is what PFF is telling you. Pollard was a better pass protector against the Bucs.

Pollard was fine in pass protection.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I have been on record stating that PFF grades are pure BS for many years. They are the equivalent of a teacher grading papers without knowing the questions. They just mark you right or wrong based on their best guess. I took them seriously for a hot minute when they first came out until I realized that they handed out grades before the NFL releases the all-22 access. Which means they actually try to grade based on the TV feed. That sealed it for me. They don't know assignments, coverages, routes, line slants, stunts, which hole a play was designed to hit.. none of it.. yet they're handing out grades? GTFOH!!!

You literally have no idea what your talking about. From the web site.

Each grade is reviewed at least once, and usually multiple times, using every camera angle available, including All-22 coaches’ tape.

Go read , learn something, and then come back with a relevent criticism.

 

[G2]

You literally have no idea what your talking about. From the web site.

Each grade is reviewed at least once, and usually multiple times, using every camera angle available, including All-22 coaches’ tape.

Go read , learn something, and then come back with a relevent criticism.

How do they know who's responsibility a defender is for the offense to block?

 

[RonnieT24]

You literally have no idea what your talking about. From the web site.

Each grade is reviewed at least once, and usually multiple times, using every camera angle available, including All-22 coaches’ tape.

Go read , learn something, and then come back with a relevent criticism.

Sorry but this is simply them doing some marketing. They typically have their grades out the morning following a game and it's generally BEFORE the all-22 is made available. Unless they have access to the all-22 before the rest of the world this is a blatant lie. And even if they did (which I don't believe they do) they still don't have access to the coaches play sheets and as such have absolutely no idea what players' assignments are on a given play. So I stand by my assertion that their grades are absolute horse doodie. You can swear by them all you want.. I can't join you there.