PFT: An asst coach forwards a porno e-mail to every GM and the Commish

[BouncingCheese]

Can I blame that on my environment?


:laugh2:


(sorry, I had to take the shot)!

......

 

[BlackJackMurphy]

I emailed Florio and told him to keep it quiet.

Whoever did it is plenty embarrassed. And if its made public; his family will share that embarrassment.

And if he has young kids- I can only imagine the level of embarrassment then.

Hopefully PFT will keep its lid shut.

But Florio is going to milk this for what its worth.

That was really cool you man - the world we live in today is everyone loves to laugh at someone's expense and we revel in people's pain and mistakes. The guy who did it must be sick - that should be enough.

 

[ZeroClub]

POSTED 5:22 p.m. EDT, May 21, 2007

IT'S TIME TO NAME NAMES

We've given this matter due consideration. We've pondered. We've deliberated. We've (thanks in advance, Tiki) excogitated.

And we've received more than 600 e-mails from readers in little more than two hours on the topic.

We've decided to disclose the names of the persons involved in the Friday e-mail fiasco.

Here's why. In announcing the new Personal Conduct Policy last month, the NFL pointed out that non-players would be held to an even higher standard than those who wear the uniform: "The standard of socially responsible conduct for NFL employees will be higher. Club and league employees will be held to a higher standard than players. Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL will be subject to discipline, even if not criminal in nature." (Emphasis added.)

It's not for us to decide whether the underlying actions in this case (i.e., the forwarding of a "very hard-core," as one league source described it, pornographic video clip via a team's e-mail system) justifies punishment. But how will the personal conduct policy as applied to non-players have any meaning at all if the issue is ignored?

So in the interests of breaking from an apparent effort by the "real" media to brush this one under the rug in the hopes of scoring points with a new coaching regime, we believe it's fair and appropriate to disclose that (via at least three NFL sources) the e-mail in question was inadvertently sent to multiple high-level team employees and their secretaries by offensive line coach Larry Zierlein of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The e-mail message had been forwarded to him by Doug Whaley, the Steelers director of personnel. Whaley had received the video from someone outside of the organization, and Whaley forwarded it to multiple other persons, including Zierlein.

Again, it's not for us to decide whether this behavior runs afoul of the new personal conduct policy as applied to coaches and front office personnel. Assuming, however, that the NFL has a written policy regarding the use of company computer equipment for personal endeavors, the use of the steelers.com domain to forward the video in question surely was a violation.

There's also a strong strategic aspect at work here. As one source observed, if the ticket manager had done this, he'd already be out the door. With NFL-level offensive line coaches not readily available to be hired in late May, Zierlein will likely get a pass. Ditto for Whaley, a respected personnel exec and a key contributor to the success of the franchise over the past several years.

And we don't think it's a terminable offense, even though we're certain that other employers in other industries wouldn't think twice about firing someone for this.

With all that said, the case provides an excellent opportunity for the league to educate its employees as to what does (and what does not) amount to a violation of the revised conduct policy. If action is taken, then the conduct was over the line. If no action is taken, then this isn't the kind of stuff that falls within the scope of the murky standard of overall personal behavior.

I'm just happy that Gil Brandt wasn't involved. His week was already in the crapper ....

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Theres pornography on the internet?​

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*GASP*

Seriously, there are viruses out there that send porn/spam out to all your address book and friend. And all you have to do is have an unpatched windows with no firewall. So what? Thanks PFT for the witch hunt.

Wow sounds like you've been through an episode such as this....:

 

[junk]

Am I the only one disappointed that this wasn't someone in the Packers organization?

 

[WoodysGirl]

POSTED 5:28 p.m. EDT, May 22, 2007

STEELERS ACKNOWLEDGE E-MAIL FIASCO

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazetteand Scott Brown of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review report that the Steelers have acknowledged that an improper e-mail was inadvertently sent by a team employee to people throughout the league on Friday, May 18.

Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett confirmed reports of the inappropriate message, but did not disclose any of the names involved. "The sending of inappropriate e-mail messages is against club and league policy, and the sender has been warned about the policy violation. The sender has issued an apology to all of the recipients," Lockett said.

Lockett said that no other team executives will be addressing the matter, and head coach Mike Tomlin was not available to address the matter after Tuesday's launch of the team's Offseason Training Activities.

Bouchette writes that the team is not expected to punish either offensive line coach Larry Zierlein (who sent the message to the league's "All General Managers" distribution list, which includes many high-level club and league office employees and their secretaries) or pro personnel director Doug Whaley, who received the message from an external sender and forwarded it to Zierlein.

Though we don't believe that either man should be disciplined severely for the violation of the rules, some league insiders are surprised by the outcome. Said one executive from another team: "When the e-mail came to us we figured they would be fired by the end of the day."

Said another source: "I saw the e-mail. It was brutal. . . . I feel bad for Whaley, a little. He's a good dude, works hard, handles himself very professionally. He's going to have that follow him around for a long time. Zierlein's irrelevant. He's older. This would be his last job probably anyways."

We're also told that the topic of what is and is not appropriate to send via league-provided e-mail accounts was a hot topic in multiple team headquarters on Tuesday.

Here's the best advice to anyone who works for an NFL team -- set up a separate e-mail account through Yahoo! or AOL or Google or MSN, and use that address for receiving and sending things that could get you in trouble.

Meanwhile, this episode does little to clarify the application of the new personal conduct policy to non-players. The fact that there will be no discipline imposed on Zierlein or Whaley should not be interpreted (in our view) as evidence that no sanction will arise if things like this happen in the future.

Then again, we also think that the specific job that a non-player holds will have a significant influence on the question of whether the employee gets a firing, a finger-wagging, or something in between.

 

[jobberone]

I remember my boss calling me into her office one day and asking me why I sent her an address to a website. I just did not know what to say as I knew I never sent her an address to any site.

Turns out there was a virus in the STATES email system that filtered down to ours. One of the things it did was send out spam emails.

She showed me the site and it was a porn video site:laugh1: Talk about being embarrassed. Funny thing was I was not afraid of getting in trouble about it as she knows I would never send that type of stuff. What scared me was the idea that one time she told me she had a dream that I brought her breakfast in bed.
So here I am thinking that she might wonder if I was hot for her and sent the email:laugh1: .

Now you're dreaming.

 

[bbgun]

I wish somebody would send it to me.

 

[silverbear]

POSTED 9:31 p.m. EDT, May 20, 2007

MISADVENTURES IN E-MAIL

A league source tells us that an assistant coach with an NFL team attempted on Friday to forward a pornographic e-mail.

If his goal was to send it to every General Manager in the league, he was successful.

The list also included their secretaries. Oh, and the Comissioner got it, too.

Maybe if we ask nice, AdamJT13 will PM us the copy he received...

 

[silverbear]

I remember my boss calling me into her office one day and asking me why I sent her an address to a website. I just did not know what to say as I knew I never sent her an address to any site.

Turns out there was a virus in the STATES email system that filtered down to ours. One of the things it did was send out spam emails.

She showed me the site and it was a porn video site:laugh1: Talk about being embarrassed. Funny thing was I was not afraid of getting in trouble about it as she knows I would never send that type of stuff. What scared me was the idea that one time she told me she had a dream that I brought her breakfast in bed.
So here I am thinking that she might wonder if I was hot for her and sent the email:laugh1: .

Many, many years ago I was working the night audit at a Ramada Inn, and it was my first exposure to e-mails... not long after they installed that computer system, I started getting e-mails from this guy named Baz who worked at a Ramada in London... intrigued, I responded, thinking it was really neat to be able to talk with somebody all the way over in England... I told him about my two brief trips to his country (one a few hours, one an overnighter) when I was a much younger Bear...

Then we got to swapping jokes... I started sending him my favorite bumper sticker lines-- "Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things"; "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"; "There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved by a suitable application of high explosives"; "Yes, as a matter of fact, I DO own the whole d*mned road"... that kind of thing...

Little did I know that my GM got a daily recap of all e-mails sent... he called me into his office the next day, showed me the recap... he was trying REAL hard not to fall down laughing (for added depth to the story, ol' Mike Webb was 6-1, probably 400 pounds)...

If he hadn't found my one-liners funny, I might have been in real trouble... instead, he just warned me to be circumspect about using that feature... I guess Baz got a similar talking to, I never heard from him again...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe if we ask nice, AdamJT13 will PM us the copy he received...

I think Adam is media not league. Thats just me though.

 

[silverbear]

I think Adam is media not league. Thats just me though.

That was a joke, Fuzz... a rif on the oft-repeated, playful suggestion that he's really Stephen Jones... well, it was also intended as a compliment for the way he brings things to this board that nobody else possibly could...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That was a joke, Fuzz... a rif on the oft-repeated, playful suggestion that he's really Stephen Jones... well, it was also intended as a compliment for the way he brings things to this board that nobody else possibly could...

No i understand that. im just saying that i really do belive that he is affiliated with the media.

He has shown that he can access info from STATS, LLC at will. Only league and media members can do that.

He has made allusions to having a friend in one of the NFL clubs. He also occasionally goes completely out of character and takes shots at DMN reporters but only the nontabloid stuff.

He took a shot at JJT for some typo and when i asked why he chose to go after him when there wre much easier targets like Galloway and Floyd-Engels he started talking about editors. It just seemed odd. Put that with his access to STATS and there we go.

 

[silverbear]

No i understand that. im just saying that i really do belive that he is affiliated with the media.

He has shown that he can access info from STATS, LLC at will. Only league and media members can do that.

He has made allusions to having a friend in one of the NFL clubs. He also occasionally goes completely out of character and takes shots at DMN reporters but only the nontabloid stuff.

He took a shot at JJT for some typo and when i asked why he chose to go after him when there wre much easier targets like Galloway and Floyd-Engels he started talking about editors. It just seemed odd. Put that with his access to STATS and there we go.

Adam once explained how he had access to all this good stuff, but I can't recall exactly what his explanation was... if my memory is working at all, it was something about knowing somebody who's pretty connected...

I don't really care, I'm just very glad he shares with us... he truly is one of a kind on these boards...