PFT: Cowboys to be featured on Hard Knocks again *Merge*

[ilovejerry]

Jerry being idiot again. I have yet to see a team do this and come out good. Why the heck do you need this distraction?

I hope this is not true, maybe its overreaction on my part, but I do not like this at all.

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[Idgit]

Well, can't say I'm surprised. Over the past year, I have seen a great many decisions come full circle. Not a good thing IMO but that's what happens when Jerry is running the show. I'd like to think that this is a positive thing but I don't see how. Just more distraction. I really don't care how good you are, it's just a fact of life that as little distractions as possible is better, when chasing the over all goal.

This is really disappoint to me as well. I'm sure that this is just another one of those deals where Jerry is trying to drum up as much attention as is possible to support the Cowboys and there eventual 09 Stadium opening but honestly, win a championship or even a playoff game and that will do more for you then Hard Knocks ever would IMO.

Jerry's always looking to give fans more access to the team and enhance the value of the Cowboys brand. Moves like these are what make our players household names and get us a full complement of nationally-televised and high-profile games from year to year. I hardly think this added layer of distraction will impact the team given everything we've gone through in recent years with TO, Tank, and now Adam Jones.

And we're kidding ourselves if we think Jerry wasn't running the show during the Parcells years. He did alright with the GM stuff last year and so far this off season. I'm not about to start questioning him on the owner-stuff.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I wonder how much money the deal is worth to Jerry.

You know he is going to make some money towards the new stadium.

I also hope they go into the new stadium but I seriously doubt they would fly out to Texas from Cali.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I wonder how much money the deal is worth to Jerry.

You know he is going to make some money towards the new stadium.

I also hope they go into the new stadium but I seriously doubt they would fly out to Texas from Cali.

Last time they featured the players in San Antonio and the cheerleaders in Irving, so they're not averse to having crews in two different places. Showing the stadium progress would be great advertising for Jerry.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jerry's always looking to give fans more access to the team and enhance the value of the Cowboys brand. Moves like these are what make our players household names and get us a full complement of nationally-televised and high-profile games from year to year. I hardly think this added layer of distraction will impact the team given everything we've gone through in recent years with TO, Tank, and now Adam Jones.

And we're kidding ourselves if we think Jerry wasn't running the show during the Parcells years. He did alright with the GM stuff last year and so far this off season. I'm not about to start questioning him on the owner-stuff.

First of all, we were household names way before Jerry ever got here and we never needed Hard Knocks to do it then. We are, by far, the most watched, most publicised, most accessable, highest rated, highest selling, highest merchandised team in the NFL. We get more televised games then anybody else because the interest is already there. Hard Knocks is not going to change that one way or the other. What it will do is distract from what is important in Training Camp IMO. Training Camp is for players, especially young players, to get things down. It is hard enough for players to stay focused during training camp. I don't think this is going to help that cause in any way. If young players don't get it down in training camp, they don't get it down. That means that they pretty much have to wait till next year because once you get into the season, there is no time to go back and spend the necessary coaching time to get players up to speed on what they've missed. Just doesn't work that way. This year is a very big year for us in terms of rookies contributing and playing a big role in our plans. DBs and RBs, young WRs and development of a guy like Bartell, IMO, are going to be made or broken in this training camp. We don't need this. Yeah, this is all about what fans want to see but come December and January, I've got that sneaking feeling that fans will be more interested in the Cowboys if they are playing for a Super Bowl as opposed to Hard Knocks. JMO but I'm pretty sure it's an accurate one.

If you choose to believe that Jerry was running everything when BP was here, that's fine. I do not believe that. Too many things that we never did before changed when BP got here. Too many things have changed back since BP left. No chance that anybody is ever going to convince me that Jerry was running the show 100%, top to bottom, when BP was here.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Last time they featured the players in San Antonio and the cheerleaders in Irving, so they're not averse to having crews in two different places. Showing the stadium progress would be great advertising for Jerry.

Yes but those two were in the same state. Not sure they would want to fly out to Texas from Cali unless they did it before the show started.

However as you say, showing the Stadium would be good advert for Jerry and the cowboys.

 

[Chief]

Hard Knocks is back.

Campo is back.

Switzer is hanging around.

Lacewell is making prank phone calls during the draft.

Adam Jones is on his way.



Yep, no more egg shells. Bill Parcells is definitely gone.

 

[Idgit]

First of all, we were household names way before Jerry ever got here and we never needed Hard Knocks to do it then. We are, by far, the most watched, most publicised, most accessable, highest rated, highest selling, highest merchandised team in the NFL. We get more televised games then anybody else because the interest is already there. Hard Knocks is not going to change that one way or the other. What it will do is distract from what is important in Training Camp IMO. Training Camp is for players, especially young players, to get things down. It is hard enough for players to stay focused during training camp. I don't think this is going to help that cause in any way. If young players don't get it down in training camp, they don't get it down. That means that they pretty much have to wait till next year because once you get into the season, there is no time to go back and spend the necessary coaching time to get players up to speed on what they've missed. Just doesn't work that way. This year is a very big year for us in terms of rookies contributing and playing a big role in our plans. DBs and RBs, young WRs and development of a guy like Bartell, IMO, are going to be made or broken in this training camp. We don't need this. Yeah, this is all about what fans want to see but come December and January, I've got that sneaking feeling that fans will be more interested in the Cowboys if they are playing for a Super Bowl as opposed to Hard Knocks. JMO but I'm pretty sure it's an accurate one.

If you choose to believe that Jerry was running everything when BP was here, that's fine. I do not believe that. Too many things that we never did before changed when BP got here. Too many things have changed back since BP left. No chance that anybody is ever going to convince me that Jerry was running the show 100%, top to bottom, when BP was here.

You've got to work to keep the public image crown. We don't stay America's Team just because of the star. And being on an HBO documentary and playing for a Super Bowl aren't mutually exclusive. There's not even any convincing evidence that the presence of the documentary crew is disruptive.

And Jerry's been the lead dog each and every year he's run the team. You can choose to believe that or not. I'm not sure why you've concluded he's running the show 100% at this point, but believing that is also your perogative. Yes, the power structure is different now than it was under Parcells, but I've seen scant evidence that that's a negative. We had our best year in a decade last year. The players are happy and productive. We've made shrewd moves in FA. We seem to have drafted well. Wade's style is very different from Parcells' style. But don't forget that even TO was brought in on BP's watch.

With all the distractions of the personalities on this team, the new stadium, the uncertain status of Adam Jones' reinstatement, the natural attention the Cowboys get when they're competitive, and the attention that Jerry Jones draws to his team with his high profile within the league, I think you're overreacting to a cable mini-series, but that's my opinion. Anything that saves me from more offseason Roy Williams sucks-let's move Henry to FS-we need to replace Kyle Kosier-Wade Phillips can't win a playoff game--We're done of TO goes down--threads....I'm all for.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You've got to work to keep the public image crown. We don't stay America's Team just because of the star. And being on an HBO documentary and playing for a Super Bowl aren't mutually exclusive. There's not even any convincing evidence that the presence of the documentary crew is disruptive.

And Jerry's been the lead dog each and every year he's run the team. You can choose to believe that or not. I'm not sure why you've concluded he's running the show 100% at this point, but believing that is also your perogative. Yes, the power structure is different now than it was under Parcells, but I've seen scant evidence that that's a negative. We had our best year in a decade last year. The players are happy and productive. We've made shrewd moves in FA. We seem to have drafted well. Wade's style is very different from Parcells' style. But don't forget that even TO was brought in on BP's watch.

With all the distractions of the personalities on this team, the new stadium, the uncertain status of Adam Jones' reinstatement, the natural attention the Cowboys get when they're competitive, and the attention that Jerry Jones draws to his team with his high profile within the league, I think you're overreacting to a cable mini-series, but that's my opinion. Anything that saves me from more offseason Roy Williams sucks-let's move Henry to FS-we need to replace Kyle Kosier-Wade Phillips can't win a playoff game--We're done of TO goes down--threads....I'm all for.

As I said earlier, a playoff win or another Championship are better banners to fly IMO. Win and that will do more for you then Hard Knocks ever would or could IMO.

I'm not questioning if Jerry was the guy with the final say or not. What I am saying is that Parcells set the tone on all of this before. Maybe he told Jerry and Jerry approved but it was still BP driving this IMO. Things are going back to how they were. Heck, look no further then Gil Brandt.

In the end, it doesn't matter. I think this is a mistake. It's not about how much additional time or home many more cameras. It's about mind set of the players. Focus of the organization should be about players and coaches being 100 on training camp as opposed to hard knocks or more cameras or whatever else. If you recall, those guys had little to know access under Parcells. You can say that we have improved and that may be so but the improvement is, IMO, because of how the young guys were developed to begin with.

In the end it doesn't matter. Like all other things, it is what it is. You will still have to deal with Roy Williams and his short comings, Kyle Koshier's square peg in a round hole, would be nice to win a play off game and hope that TO does not go down because we would be done.

For me, it's a mistake. Simple as that. If that translates into over reacting, that's fine. I'm guilty.

 

[zeromaster]

Get out the sackcloth and ashes...

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I wonder how much money the deal is worth to Jerry.

You know he is going to make some money towards the new stadium.

I also hope they go into the new stadium but I seriously doubt they would fly out to Texas from Cali.

Has to do with sponsors. HBO isn't really paying them anything, but they can now tell sponsors that Dallas is America's Team, just went 13-3 last season, has a young roster, and is a hit on HBO.




YAKUZA

 

[percyhoward]

Hard Knocks, the weekly documentary show that follows an NFL team through training camp, will focus this year on the Dallas Cowboys, CBS 11 in Dallas is reporting.

Thanks for the heads up. This will be the best team ever featured on that show.

Does the show run concurrently with camp, or do we have to wait til the end of camp until it airs?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Lacewell is making prank phone calls during the draft.


Yep, no more egg shells. Bill Parcells is definitely gone.

This, to me, is the best indicator of who is really doing what.

Unbelievable how this guy survives in Dallas.

Coach Landry, Jimmy, Switzer, Gailey, Monchichi, Parcells and now, apparently Phillips. I wonder if he will make it to Garrett?

 

[redskins1]

Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Bad memories from last time!

Why do you have to do this, Jerry! :bang2:

I love this,down hill from here..yeauh!!!

 

[Little Jr]

I see nothing wrong with it. If weoke again in Dec. and the palyoffs it will have nothing to do with Hark Knocks.

As far as "JJ is runnnig the show now.", what did BP do? Chocked in the 1st round in 03. Didnt even make the playoffs in 04and 05. Chocked in the 1st round in 06. Had awful Decembers. Nothing changed last year when he was gone. Except we had a more explosive O and a better record. I appreciate what BP did while he was here but his way didnt get us any closer to where we got last year.


I think everyone is overreacting just a little bit on this.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I see nothing wrong with it. If weoke again in Dec. and the palyoffs it will have nothing to do with Hark Knocks.

As far as "JJ is runnnig the show now.", what did BP do? Chocked in the 1st round in 03. Didnt even make the playoffs in 04and 05. Chocked in the 1st round in 06. Had awful Decembers. Nothing changed last year when he was gone. Except we had a more explosive O and a better record. I appreciate what BP did while he was here but his way didnt get us any closer to where we got last year.


I think everyone is overreacting just a little bit on this.

Before he got here, we were drafting like this.

2001
2 Quincy Carter QB Georgia
2 Tony Dixon DB Alabama
3 Willie Blade DT Mississippi State
4 Markus Steele LB USC
5 Matt Lehr G Virginia Tech
6 Daleroy Stewart DT Southern Mississippi

2000
2 Dwayne Goodrich DB Tennessee
4 Kareem Larrimore DB West Texas State
5 Michael Wiley RB Ohio State
6 Mario Edwards DB Florida State
7 Orantes Grant LB Georgia

1999
1 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
2 Solomon Page T West Virginia
3 Dat Nguyen LB Texas A&M
4 Wane McGarity WR Texas
5 Hundens Zellner DE Fort Valley State
6 MarTay Jenkins WR Nebraska-Omaha
7 Mike Lucky TE Arizona
8 Kelvin Garmon G Baylor

In three drafts, we had one player to show for it. Seems as if we he did a great deal to me.

 

[Little Jr]

Before he got here, we were drafting like this.

2001
2 Quincy Carter QB Georgia
2 Tony Dixon DB Alabama
3 Willie Blade DT Mississippi State
4 Markus Steele LB USC
5 Matt Lehr G Virginia Tech
6 Daleroy Stewart DT Southern Mississippi

2000
2 Dwayne Goodrich DB Tennessee
4 Kareem Larrimore DB West Texas State
5 Michael Wiley RB Ohio State
6 Mario Edwards DB Florida State
7 Orantes Grant LB Georgia

1999
1 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
2 Solomon Page T West Virginia
3 Dat Nguyen LB Texas A&M
4 Wane McGarity WR Texas
5 Hundens Zellner DE Fort Valley State
6 MarTay Jenkins WR Nebraska-Omaha
7 Mike Lucky TE Arizona
8 Kelvin Garmon G Baylor

In three drafts, we had one player to show for it. Seems as if we he did a great deal to me.

I said I appreciate what he did when he was here. I should had been more clear and mentioned the draft. He underachieved though when it came to coaching. JJ has had to solid offseasons without him. I dont see the Hard Knocks show changing anything. I just thinks it's odd that JJ gets no credit for the drafts while BP was here and no credit for anything positive. Yet he to blame when stuff dont go right when BP isnt here.

 

[Joe71]

Can someone please remember to record and set up torrents for the episodes when this come out.I would greatly appreciate it.ray:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Before he got here, we were drafting like this.

2001
2 Quincy Carter QB Georgia
2 Tony Dixon DB Alabama
3 Willie Blade DT Mississippi State
4 Markus Steele LB USC
5 Matt Lehr G Virginia Tech
6 Daleroy Stewart DT Southern Mississippi

2000
2 Dwayne Goodrich DB Tennessee
4 Kareem Larrimore DB West Texas State
5 Michael Wiley RB Ohio State
6 Mario Edwards DB Florida State
7 Orantes Grant LB Georgia

1999
1 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
2 Solomon Page T West Virginia
3 Dat Nguyen LB Texas A&M
4 Wane McGarity WR Texas
5 Hundens Zellner DE Fort Valley State
6 MarTay Jenkins WR Nebraska-Omaha
7 Mike Lucky TE Arizona
8 Kelvin Garmon G Baylor

In three drafts, we had one player to show for it. Seems as if we he did a great deal to me.

OH MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Before he got here, we were drafting like this.

2001
2 Quincy Carter QB Georgia
2 Tony Dixon DB Alabama
3 Willie Blade DT Mississippi State
4 Markus Steele LB USC
5 Matt Lehr G Virginia Tech
6 Daleroy Stewart DT Southern Mississippi

2000
2 Dwayne Goodrich DB Tennessee
4 Kareem Larrimore DB West Texas State
5 Michael Wiley RB Ohio State
6 Mario Edwards DB Florida State
7 Orantes Grant LB Georgia

1999
1 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
2 Solomon Page T West Virginia
3 Dat Nguyen LB Texas A&M
4 Wane McGarity WR Texas
5 Hundens Zellner DE Fort Valley State
6 MarTay Jenkins WR Nebraska-Omaha
7 Mike Lucky TE Arizona
8 Kelvin Garmon G Baylor

In three drafts, we had one player to show for it. Seems as if we he did a great deal to me.

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