PFT: Giants rookie injured in car crash w/pic... post-accident vid added

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His signing bonus was $825,000. Take away around 40 some percent for taxes and he's left with $500,000. Not a whole lot. The Giants aren't going to pay his salary which probably isn't guaranteed.

Does he have health care? If not, he's royally screwed. That bonus money is already gone. Does his healthcare provided by the Giants begin with the start of training camp?

And you have to look at the fine print in the contract. He will be charged with reckless driving. Was alcohol involved? That may trigger repayment of the bonus if the Giants so opt.
His automobile insurance policy should have medical coverage.

Has anyone heard how the surgery went?
 

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Chad Jones finally off the operating table

Posted by Evan Silva on June 25, 2010 7:14 PM ET

A prior report from Erin Cofiell of WAFB in Baton Rouge claimed that Giants rookie Chad Jones emerged from surgery following Friday's horrific car accident. That was five hours ago, and proved to be erroneous.

Finally, we have confirmation from Jones' agent, Rocky Arceneaux, that the Giants' third-round pick is off the operating table some eight hours after he initially went under the knife at 10:15 a.m. Friday.


"Up to this point, yeah, I think everything went smoothly," Arceneaux told the Newark Star-Ledger, adding that his client is "in recovery.


"Everything I'm hearing is good."


Arceneaux sounds confident that the blood flow has been restored to Jones' foot, which would seem to indicate that Jones should avoid amputation. Jones and Arceneaux plan to release a statement shortly that will describe what led up to the accident.
 

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67CowboysFan;3443899 said:
His automobile insurance policy should have medical coverage.

Has anyone heard how the surgery went?

great news zoners, i think they have saved his foot; read below;per PFT
Chad Jones finally off the operating table
Posted by Evan Silva on June 25, 2010 7:14 PM ET
A prior report from Erin Cofiell of WAFB in Baton Rouge claimed that Giants rookie Chad Jones emerged from surgery following Friday's horrific car accident. That was five hours ago, and proved to be erroneous.


Finally, we have confirmation from Jones' agent, Rocky Arceneaux, that the Giants' third-round pick is off the operating table some eight hours after he initially went under the knife at 10:15 a.m. Friday.


"Up to this point, yeah, I think everything went smoothly," Arceneaux told the Newark Star-Ledger, adding that his client is "in recovery.


"Everything I'm hearing is good."


Arceneaux sounds confident that the blood flow has been restored to Jones' foot, which would seem to indicate that Jones should avoid amputation. Jones and Arceneaux plan to release a statement shortly that will describe what led up to the accident.
 

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From a marketing/PR standpoint do you really wanna stiff the guy when it comes to healthcare? IMO if I'm the Giants I help the guy recover and try to cover all his hospital costs, it's chump change to a large organization like that, ... Hopefully if he can't play football he can at least go back to LSU and finish his senior year to get his degree.

Wait for the toxology report to follow. What's the chance of alcohol being involved at 6:30 am and travelling at ridiculously high speed? It matters if alcohol was involved. Who wants to shell out $1-2 million to some drunken idiot? Talk about bad PR.

Sorry. There are many more people deserving of help and sympathy.

And $1-2 million ain't chump change when you are staring at a possible lockout next year.
 

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ninja;3443884 said:
His signing bonus was $825,000. Take away around 40 some percent for taxes and he's left with $500,000. Not a whole lot. The Giants aren't going to pay his salary which probably isn't guaranteed.

Does he have health care? If not, he's royally screwed. That bonus money is already gone. Does his healthcare provided by the Giants begin with the start of training camp?

And you have to look at the fine print in the contract. He will be charged with reckless driving. Was alcohol involved? That may trigger repayment of the bonus if the Giants so opt.

You would hope that the NFLPA at some point negotiated health care into a players contract.
 

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67CowboysFan;3443899 said:
His automobile insurance policy should have medical coverage.

Has anyone heard how the surgery went?

Auto policies include a very small amount of coverage that would not even cover his morphine drip.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3443930 said:
You would hope that the NFLPA at some point negotiated health care into a players contract.

And when does that contract take effect? First day of camp?

I had to wait 1 month after employment for my healthcare to kick in. It didn't start on my first day on the job.

Perhaps the NFLPA health insurance only covers football related injuries. Everything else may be the responsibility of the player.

I wonder what kind of health insurance the players have.
 

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ninja;3443934 said:
And when does that contract take effect? First day of camp?

I had to wait 1 month after employment for my healthcare to kick in. It didn't start on my first day on the job.

Perhaps the NFLPA health insurance only covers football related injuries. Everything else may be the responsibility of the player.

I wonder what kind of health insurance the plaers have.

Well they are given there signing bonus the moment they sign their contract. Really there are two things that are possible. Either the player contract includes medical coverage which I would hope provides family coverage. This is not some rinky dinky corp we are talking about. the other option is he has to go to a health insurance company to provide his insurance. That would hopefully be something that his agent would know to take care of if he is not a complete worthless individual.

If he purchased it independently then the coverage would go into effect immediately. You pay a premium and they provide coverage.
 

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Most of these guys take out insurance policies while they're in college. Meaning that should something tragic happen, no matter if their fault or not, they still get a hefty sum.

The Giants in no way should shell out anything beyond what they're responsible for.

People need to learn to be responsible. The Giants don't need to pay for his irresponsibility.
 

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Agent: Chad Jones will run again

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 26, 2010 11:48 AM ET

The worst is over.* The worst-case scenarios involving the fate of Giants safety Chad Jones was avoided on Friday, and the Jones family is thrilled.

"I know his family is absolutely ecstatic that the surgery was successful," Jones' agent Rocky Arceneux told the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

It's too early for a timetable for when Jones will leave the hospital, much less play sports again.* But Arceneux remains optimistic.

"I don't see that based on the type of athlete that Chad is that anything would prevent Chad from walking. And from running, " Arceneaux said, after amputation was avoided.

The Associated Press writes that Jones' accident was caused when he turned his wheel quickly trying to get off the streetcar tracks.* (It's unclear if he was crossing the tracks or driving on them, which remain a fairly common late night tradition in New Orleans.)

Newsday, meanwhile, reported that NOPD does not believe alcohol or drugs are involved, although toxicology tests will be performed.
 

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thanks for the update,WG I'm happy for the kid that he can walk again since his sports career might be over.
 

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thanks for the update,WG> I'm happy for the kid that he can walk again since his sports career might be over.

He was drafted as a pitcher in baseball. If he can't recover enough to play in the NFL, perhaps he could give that a shot. Then again, pitching requires strong leg muscles, so perhaps his injuries would make it more difficult to push off his left leg as a pitcher than it would be to run.
 

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my god what a mess. Hope like heck he fully recovers...and since WHEN did "driving on railroad tracks" become a late night tradition in n'awlins? Dumbest thing I've heard in a while...........
 

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Judging by the impact damage it was at least a 30mph collision, very lethal in it's potential, I'm actually surprised this type of incident doesn't occur more often with NFL players. Car wrecks are inevitable for almost all of us.
 

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Prayers for him and his family, glad to hear he's gonna run again.


Amen to that, as we all know well, car accidents are too often deadly. Gods speed to Chads' health.
 

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From the comments in an article... Interesting speculation.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2010/06/former_lsu_star_chad_jones_fac.html

sounds70122 June 26, 2010 at 2:54AM
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pwpitt I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is no way Chad plays ball again. I am good friends withone of the firemen that pulled him from the vehicle. He told me he had to cut Chads pants to get to the area and when he did it looked like a whole piece of his leg was missing like a shark attack. Chad also no longer has a heel on that foot. The Kid is lucky to be alive. Football is over.


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Missing a heel and piece of his leg???? Cmon dude....dont extend the reality of the situation


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sounds70122 June 26, 2010 at 9:55AM
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What I said was exactly what the fireman relayed to me. Choose to believe it or not but that doesnt change the facts. The Press doesn't have all the information Pal. In a few days when this comes out will I get an apology? I seriously doubt it.

pattistamp June 26, 2010 at 7:47AM
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Hey Sounds, ask your friend to clarify which leg. The footage on WWL clearly shows it was the right ankle/leg that is injured, not the left.

firedad23 June 26, 2010 at 8:09AM
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Let me start off by saying I am a Fireman and a Paramedic and I have a couple of points to make. First of all ski_alta_powder you buddy who is a fireman violated HIPA laws telling you anything and secon if you look at the video on wwltv both of his feet are intact and look fine no blood nothing and you can see his heel and it looks perfect. Second Why is it that just because someone gets in a wreck alcohol or drugs are involved. I would say only about 5% of the wrecks that i've worked have involved either of those. Its not as common as people think. Most people just aren't very good drivers. Most athletes of his caliber are up that early in the morning heading to the gym work. Third from what I've read and seen on the video and pictures he had an open femur fracture which is common in trauma accidents. You would be amazed at what surgeons can do these days in in the operating rooms. When you have that type of injury the blood supply gets cut off to the rest of the leg because of a kink or cut in the artery. that is why they were trying to restore blood flow to the foot. I have seen people bounce back from worse injuries and I think he will too. He will have a long rehab maybe a year or two at the most. But I think he will play football or baseball again. People need to stop overreacting to what they hear from the news its never right. Trust me I can work and accident scene or some other situation that gets the news attention and what happens on scene and what they report are two totally differnt things. Chad our Prayers are with you and your family. Good luck on your road to recovery.

pattistamp June 26, 2010 at 2:44PM
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Long rehab, year or two at most? Sorry, but the NFL doesn't wait for anybody, his career is almost certainly over. He's lucky to be alive. Excessive speed was definitely a factor in this crash, the Range Rover he was driving in now a big hunk of junk. It's just sad to see so much promise wasted by something so preventable. These kids making huge money forget that it doesn't make them bulletproof and everything can be taken away by one bad decision. Oh yeah, it's HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act and he suffered an open fracture of the RIGHT tibia and fibula, which is the lower leg, not the femur which is the thigh. Any competent firefighter/paramedic should be familiar with basic anatomy

sounds70122 June 26, 2010 at 10:08AM
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Firedad I am aware of the HIPA laws thats why I am not giving anymore detail than I have. Now unless you were actually at the accident like my friend was you dont have a damn thing to ad about this situation.
 

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Giants in close touch with Chad Jones PFT
Posted by Mike Florio on June 26, 2010 6:43 PM ET
The New York Giants have been keeping in close touch with rookie safety Chad Jones, who suffered a serious leg injury in a Friday automobile accident.

Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com reports that Giants director of player development Charles Way has visited Jones in the hospital, and that both coach Tom Coughlin and G.M. Jerry Reese have spoken to him by phone.

With Jones out of critical condition and his agent suggesting that Jones may eventually run again, it's time to give initial consideration to the potential football and financial impact of the situation.

With 2008 first-rounder Kenny Phillips' short-term and long-term status still up in the air after missing most of the 2009 season due to a serious knee injury, Jones hardly represented a luxury pick in round three. Even with Antrel Rolle and Deon Grant added via free agency, the Giants need depth -- and youth -- in their last line of defense. Though Jones could still become a contributor in the future, it would be unrealistic to expect anything from him in 2010.

Though the injury occurred as Jones was ending a detour along streetcar tracks, something Rosenthal (who went to Tulane) explains has become an unfortunate driving hobby in New Orleans, the Giants have no cause to recover any of his $800,000-plus signing bonus, since under the current labor deal signing bonus money can be recovered only in the event of a holdout, a retirement, or a violation of the steroids policy.

But the Giants could, if they so choose, decline to pay Jones his base salary of $320,000 for 2010. Barring a miraculous recovery and rehab, Jones will land on the non-football illness/injury list. For players unable to play due to an injury incurred on their own time, the team can choose to pay the salary -- or not to pay it. When Pats linebacker Tedy Bruschi missed time after suffering a stroke, the team paid his salary. When former Chargers linebacker Steve Foley's career ended after being shot multiple times by an overly aggressive off-duty police officer, the Chargers cut Foley off. (The Chargers also sued Foley for recovery of $416,000 in signing bonus money, a maneuver that was available under the pre-2006 labor agreement.)

We'd be surprised if the Giants don't pay Jones. Even though he was behaving recklessly, they thought enough of the former two-sport LSU star to make him a third-round pick, and they surely don't want to poison him against the franchise over a relatively small amount of cash.

Also, we've got a feeling that Reese and Coughlin are far more inclined than Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith to show compassion and understanding.
 
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