PFT: Jerry Jones expects owners to opt out of labor deal

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JONES EXPECTS OWNERS TO OPT OUT OF LABOR DEAL

Posted by Mike Florio on February 11, 2008, 9:51 a.m.

It’ll soon be time to get re-acquainted with terms like “cash over cap” and “supplemental revenue sharing.”

According to Daniel Kaplan of Sports Business Journal, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones believes that enough of his 31 colleagues will vote to opt out of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement with the players union in November 2008.

In November, either party to the deal may give the other side notice of an intention to end the contract two years early. The deal currently runs through 2012; opting out would trigger expiration after the 2010 season.

But while Armageddon is still roughly three years away, the mess would initially unfold on the first day of the 2009 league year, given the accounting rules that apply in the final year before an uncapped season.

Two years ago, a new labor deal was negotiated not on the eve of an uncapped year, but on the eve of the last capped year, which uses various devices to prevent teams from getting an early start on spending limitless money on player salaries. And with the union surely smarting from the decision to pull the plug in November 2008, it’s unlikely that both sides will get together and hammer out a deal before March 1 of 2009.

It’s also unlikely that the union will give up the inherent leverage of an uncapped year. Why should it? The owners apparently want to roll back the financial gains made by the players in 2006, and likewise to correct some of the noneconomic terms that were essentially ignored by the Management Council at a time when the focus was on striking a deal with the players for a percentage of Total Football Revenue, and at the same time working out an arrangement among the owners for the partial sharing of currently unshared revenues as to which, among some franchises, there is a huge (and always growing) disparity. Asking the union to play a little givesy-backsy is not the way to preserve labor peace.

So we’ll be dusting off some of our old articles regarding the realities of an uncapped year and the last capped year. We’ll also be pondering what ultimately could be the end result of this exercise — a spin-off league of smaller-market teams committed to sharing all revenue, and an existing league with big-market franchises who want to keep as much of what they make as possible.
 

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skinsscalper;1951116 said:
A strike is the first thing that will happen.
Probably right.

I have my doubts anything good can come of this.
 

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Even though our team would be considered one of the 'haves' rather than the 'have-nots', I can't see any good coming from this.

It's unfortunate that the owners and players cannot see how good they currently have it and will allow endless greed to undermine what they've achieved.

Every other professional sports league would love to be in the NFL's position, but that's apparently not enough for some.

A shame really.....
 

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Let's consider a couple of things:

1) The source of this story. It's hard to give Profootball Squawk much credibility. These guys use the "pasta method" of reporting, which is to make up as many stories from thin story lines as possible, throw them against the wall and see what sticks. Few people remember the stories that did not pan out, but the boys at this rag will pound their chests and point to ones that bear even meager fruit as evidence of their "journalistic prowess".

2) The NFL is the healthiest sports league in existence in North America. The Player's Association simply wants a bigger piece of the pie. The question is: What consititues the pie? The owners have developed some new streams of revenue and they believe that this belongs to them exclusively. This is part of the "dance" that both parties do when negotiating time comes for a new CBA.
 

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stasheroo;1951163 said:
Even though our team would be considered one of the 'haves' rather than the 'have-nots', I can't see any good coming from this.

It's unfortunate that the owners and players cannot see how good they currently have it and will allow endless greed to undermine what they've achieved.

Every other professional sports league would love to be in the NFL's position, but that's apparently not enough for some.

A shame really.....
Very well said.
 

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If the players do go on strike I hope the owners have the backbone to break them this time around. I know during the last strike you saw big names like Randy White cross the picket line because no matter what some may think these players can't get a paycheck like they currently do in the real business world and most are not willing to sacrifice the life style they are currently living.
 

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It seems like the real morons like Wilson and Bidwell and Benson are the ones that want to toss the current deal. I hope there are enough sensible owners to realize that this really is a golden age as regards revenue and popularity.
 

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It's tough to feel sorry for the NFL players given how much they make but we also need to remember that the life of play for an average player in the NFL is around 4 years. So while many make it, we don't hear much about those who get hurt early in their careers, etc. On the other hand I sure don't feel a lot of simply for those mostly billioniares who own these teams. Some owners spend all the money they make from team revenue on the team but a few of them don't. Besides I like most of the Cowboy players and I'm not about to hate on them just because they want to ensure the money keeps rolling in.

I would like to see the draft process change. I don't like it that the first 5 players drafted (particularly the #1 player selected) gets such a huge contract that now most teams don't even want to trade up to get that pick cause the financial cost (along with number of picks needed) is outrageaous. No player in college is worth $35M-$65M before he has even put on his uniform. It's enough to handicap a team and some of that money could be spent on keeping more vet backups to ensure more depth on the team.
 

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Hostile;1951157 said:
Probably right.

I have my doubts anything good can come of this.

Exactly.
A return to 1987 and scab football games:eek: Say it isn't so:(
 

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DWhite Fan;1951475 said:
Exactly.
A return to 1987 and scab football games:eek: Say it isn't so:(

I would hope not but I'll watch scabs if need be just as I did last time. I admit I'm not pro union to begin with. I think these players are very handsomely paid, we are not talking Coal Miners where guys worked extremely dangerous job for little pay. I doubt any of the players in pro sports could make more money outside of their respective sport. Personally I think it is a slap in the face to working class people when millionaires are on strike.
 

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Doomsday101;1951484 said:
I would hope not but I'll watch scabs if need be just as I did last time. I admit I'm not pro union to begin with. I think these players are very handsomely paid, we are not talking Coal Miners where guys worked extremely dangerous job for little pay. I doubt any of the players in pro sports could make more money outside of their respective sport. Personally I think it is a slap in the face to working class people when millionaires are on strike.


You do? So you mean if you had the ability to play pro sports, and you wanted to be paid more/what you believe your ability is worth you wouldn't do the same thing?

I hope you find it to be a slap in the face to every single fast food worker or waitress whenever people from some factory making cars, or whatever product, goes on strike.

People get all pissy about the amount of money they make because it's a game. Sure, it's a game, it's a game that makes a lot of people a lot of money off the work (Practice, weights, staying in shape, playing through injuries, etc.) of the players. Why should we, or anyone else, expect them to work for less, or not want more than what they've got, than their field of profession dictates?

People can cry about their salaries, and say it's a slap in the face to the 'working man' all day long. Remember that the next time someone dares to ask their boss for a raise. WHY THE AUDACITY OF THAT MAN! ASKING FOR A RAISE.

You can try and down play it anyway you want but the fact of the matter is that football is the way they make their living. It's the way they get their retirement and their happiness just like I'm a drafter.

They just happen to get paid a whole lot more cause their job brings in A WHOLE LOT MORE. What they do maybe a game and fun, to the average fan who couldn't have sniffed an NFL field as a player, but for them it's a job, a way to make as much money as possible before they can't make money off it anymore.

Are they risking their lives? Not exactly like a Coal Minor but for people to just assume that they should take anything less than the most they can possibly squeeze out of their chosen profession, just like everyone else does, is a slap in the face to anyone who wants the most out of what they do for a living.


And anyone who tries to claim they wouldn't do the same thing is a liar. If you had the ability to play ball like them, and make the money they do, you'd do it in a heartbeat and not give a second thought to what some 58 year old behind a keyboard thought about how 'greedy' you are for daring to get the most money you possibly can, out of your chosen field of profession.
 

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BraveHeartFan;1951503 said:
You do? So you mean if you had the ability to play pro sports, and you wanted to be paid more/what you believe your ability is worth you wouldn't do the same thing?

I hope you find it to be a slap in the face to every single fast food worker or waitress whenever people from some factory making cars, or whatever product, goes on strike.

People get all pissy about the amount of money they make because it's a game. Sure, it's a game, it's a game that makes a lot of people a lot of money off the work (Practice, weights, staying in shape, playing through injuries, etc.) of the players. Why should we, or anyone else, expect them to work for less, or not want more than what they've got, than their field of profession dictates?

People can cry about their salaries, and say it's a slap in the face to the 'working man' all day long. Remember that the next time someone dares to ask their boss for a raise. WHY THE AUDACITY OF THAT MAN! ASKING FOR A RAISE.

You can try and down play it anyway you want but the fact of the matter is that football is the way they make their living. It's the way they get their retirement and their happiness just like I'm a drafter.

They just happen to get paid a whole lot more cause their job brings in A WHOLE LOT MORE. What they do maybe a game and fun, to the average fan who couldn't have sniffed an NFL field as a player, but for them it's a job, a way to make as much money as possible before they can't make money off it anymore.

Are they risking their lives? Not exactly like a Coal Minor but for people to just assume that they should take anything less than the most they can possibly squeeze out of their chosen profession, just like everyone else does, is a slap in the face to anyone who wants the most out of what they do for a living.


And anyone who tries to claim they wouldn't do the same thing is a liar. If you had the ability to play ball like them, and make the money they do, you'd do it in a heartbeat and not give a second thought to what some 58 year old behind a keyboard thought about how 'greedy' you are for daring to get the most money you possibly can, out of your chosen field of profession.

You can think what you want it does not change the fact that these players are making large amounts of money that they would never see in any other profession. You want to cry for them be my guest but when Millionaires are going on strike then that is a sad day in this country. Oh poor babies can't live off these 30 million guaranteed contracts to play a fricken game? Give me a break. Compare their jobs to any job in America and there is a big difference!!! As for everyone would do it? Walt Garrison didn't he was amazed he was getting paid as much as he was for doing nothing more than playing a game he loved. So yes not everyone is a greedy person
 

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BraveHeartFan;1951503 said:
You do? So you mean if you had the ability to play pro sports, and you wanted to be paid more/what you believe your ability is worth you wouldn't do the same thing?

I hope you find it to be a slap in the face to every single fast food worker or waitress whenever people from some factory making cars, or whatever product, goes on strike.

People get all pissy about the amount of money they make because it's a game. Sure, it's a game, it's a game that makes a lot of people a lot of money off the work (Practice, weights, staying in shape, playing through injuries, etc.) of the players. Why should we, or anyone else, expect them to work for less, or not want more than what they've got, than their field of profession dictates?

People can cry about their salaries, and say it's a slap in the face to the 'working man' all day long. Remember that the next time someone dares to ask their boss for a raise. WHY THE AUDACITY OF THAT MAN! ASKING FOR A RAISE.

You can try and down play it anyway you want but the fact of the matter is that football is the way they make their living. It's the way they get their retirement and their happiness just like I'm a drafter.

They just happen to get paid a whole lot more cause their job brings in A WHOLE LOT MORE. What they do maybe a game and fun, to the average fan who couldn't have sniffed an NFL field as a player, but for them it's a job, a way to make as much money as possible before they can't make money off it anymore.

Are they risking their lives? Not exactly like a Coal Minor but for people to just assume that they should take anything less than the most they can possibly squeeze out of their chosen profession, just like everyone else does, is a slap in the face to anyone who wants the most out of what they do for a living.


And anyone who tries to claim they wouldn't do the same thing is a liar. If you had the ability to play ball like them, and make the money they do, you'd do it in a heartbeat and not give a second thought to what some 58 year old behind a keyboard thought about how 'greedy' you are for daring to get the most money you possibly can, out of your chosen field of profession.

Do you mind enlightening us to what you do and if you're a member of a union?
 

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skinsscalper;1951116 said:
A strike is the first thing that will happen.

I smell a strike coming. No good can come from this.
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Doomsday101;1951595 said:
You can think what you want it does not change the fact that these players are making large amounts of money that they would never see in any other profession. You want to cry for them be my guest but when Millionaires are going on strike then that is a sad day in this country. Oh poor babies can't live off these 30 million guaranteed contracts to play a fricken game? Give me a break. Compare their jobs to any job in America and there is a big difference!!! As for everyone would do it? Walt Garrison didn't he was amazed he was getting paid as much as he was for doing nothing more than playing a game he loved. So yes not everyone is a greedy person
I agree.
 
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