News: PFT: Lions to hire Tashard Choice as RB coach, reuniting him with Jahmyr Gibbs

here we go again tell a running back coach is going to change the nature of a teams, and its success, I never knew that, I didn't know that there was magic from positional coaches, I didn't know how important they were...

I didn't know they were the missing piece AKA the secret sauce, somehow on here it became super important already but everyone thinking this is about money it's not even about money because nobody knows how much most of the positional coaches make in the NFL that's a fact I discovered this two weeks ago we had this conversation there is no proof on what money the Cowboys are offering some of these coaches because they don't exist for some reason there isn't a money trail for positional coaches there's no contract talk there's no details but yet everyone jumps to that conclusion the fact is choice turned down to other NFL jobs at the same time apparently they were cheap they didn't know what they were missing they didn't double the money here's the thing what did the lions pay to shark choice now what was his other offers I think he went here out of comfort he wanted to be back with Gibbs he wanted to be in a job that was very comfortable and easy in my opinion kinda lazy he's going back to what he knows but he's already in an established place with an established run game and established offensive line that doesn't need really help but hey kudos to him..

So choice is how much better than our RB coach, any proof? Can we name all the top 10 running back coaches in the league and then list all their salaries cause until then I want all this nonsense to stop it's just ridiculous we just did this two weeks ago and here it starts all over again...

Lmao:facepalm::popcorn:.
The problems with any NFL running game starts with the offensive line.

To me, the offensive line coach and players matter way more to the running game than a running backs coach.
 
Ha, did not realize that Ms Williams was part of the Jones family Where she would actually know this information as fact. I guess she got this inside information from the usual Unamed sources! It seems that u r the person who is freaking lost here budd, WAKE-UP Sleepy…
You said something stupid
Got proven wrong
Dont blame others if you get to wear your ignorance around your neck
 
Weird... Part of me thinks Jerry is reluctant to "set the market" for anything because less financially robust teams complain about not being flush like the cowboys.
It definitely is weird. Again, JJ can set the market and overpay in the millions for players where a cap is in place but can't do so for coaches who are responsible for the players he overpays. Makes zero sense.:huh:
 
in there about 7 pages from 2 weeks ago on the same subject that's what people do around here it's a running backs coach when's the last time I remember A-Team going man if we get that running back coach it's gonna change everything about our team like the missing piece the secret sauce, I didn't know it was a positional coach.. :facepalm::muttley::popcorn::angry:
You're complaining about pages of conversation when you literally just contributed about 4 pages worth all by yourself with your posts? Lol.
 
It definitely is weird. Again, JJ can set the market and overpay in the millions for players where a cap is in place but can't do so for coaches who are responsible for the players he overpays. Makes zero sense.:huh:
Not sure having a cap makes much difference. Whenever there is a comp in the market that sets an amount for future negotiations.
 
Not sure having a cap makes much difference. Whenever there is a comp in the market that sets an amount for future negotiations.
I was just saying, a cap has parameters a FO needs to recognize/follow in order to be compliant. Coaching salaries don't have any parameters and are a fraction of the cost compared to player salaries.

In the bigger picture, why be concerned about "setting the market" for coaches especially if it's not an exorbitant amount (in the thousands - in realm of position coaches) vs not efficiently managing player salaries better (which are in the millions)? Seems backwards.

Now this example of not hiring Choice may not be a good example of this because the other coaches hired could be making less and cause dissention. Overall though, you get the coach you really want and feel will help, your biggest investment, the players, to perform optimally. Maybe Jerry didn't really want him and/or he wasn't as big of an upgrade to other coaches being considered. However, I'm sure Choice just reset the market some cause he was just hired and he wasn't taking a pay cut.
 
The problems with any NFL running game starts with the offensive line.

To me, the offensive line coach and players matter way more to the running game than a running backs coach.
Well thank you, I agree, I believe our HC/PC-OC-OLC-TE coach ,and others all seem to have a lot of successful line and Run game history and that's great IMO, over what we had the last few years seems on paper to be improved....

Foster doesn't seem like chop liver LOL

I think people here are overrating Choice even though he'd be a very good option ,,this dude is not like the best thing since sliced bread,

I don't see how the running back coach is going to change the direction of this team successful or not in the run game..

you're right there's so many layers of onions between the players ,the offensive line, the scheme, that comes all along before you even get down to what most people don't even know the names of their running back coach..​
but here somebody's gotta bring it up because it's a knock on Jerry, because he didn't go out and get this guy because this guy chose the lions over the Cowboys ,​
which isn't really the truth, because he turned down three other NFL teams went back to Texas, Texas gives him a raise, he turns his back on Texas, and then goes to the lions.... NOT because of money because of his relationship with Gibbs. That's the reason it is not anything to do with the Cowboys or money.. he saw an opportunity to get on an already successful staff and fit right in and that's it there is nothing else to it there is no story it's a non-story, it's not a big deal..​
I want to see the results it makes between the running backs coach that we had last year the year before now this year compared to choice, I don't think we're ever going to notice the difference.​

I literally had to look up the names of the Kansas City Chiefs and the eagles running backs coaches and come to find out their names.. I've never heard of either of them, not a big deal.

I don't think many people can name their running backs coach and I don't think it matters that much as long as they have somebody to talk to somebody to relay messages to you know a sounding board to help him out for going through something that's what they're there for they're not really affecting the offense IMHO..
 
The problems with any NFL running game starts with the offensive line.

To me, the offensive line coach and players matter way more to the running game than a running backs coach.
I agree 100%, but when you have a true talent at RB who can make it happen, a guy who can score from anywhere, the OL doesn't have to be great, just execute; you can work on great..

On one hand, you have Barkley in NY vs Philly to pin his failure in NY on the OL.
On the other hand, Nate Newton is famous for his take that he was just a fat unknown guard, along with most of the OL until Emmitt came in as a rookie.

Barkley behind that Philly line is going to be better than Barkley behind the Dallas line, but I will guarantee you the OL and the QB would all look better with Barkley in our backfield. If Jeanty is there at #12, I don't want to see us pass on him unless
  • It's for another beast like McMillan, Carter, Graham, or
  • It's for a trade down to another WR plus an extra 2/3
If we pass on Jeanty just to take the 2nd or 3rd best wr or a lesser edge/DT or an OT coming off surgery, I'll be very disappointed.
Our OL wasn't and isn't great, but if they could get 1,000 yards from Dowdle without a real commitment or scheme, I think the new staff would have some real success with Jeanty; his ability to score from anywhere and to turn swing passes and screens into big plays would open up the field for everyone else.
 
They didn’t want all the bad publicity when contract numbers come out and show our HC is making less than a running backs coach in college
 

Forum statistics

Threads
464,268
Messages
13,801,817
Members
23,776
Latest member
saturdaysarebetter
Back
Top