News: PFT: Marriott tries to dismiss Michael Irvin's lawsuit, claims he made "harassing and inappropriate comments"

[Diehardblues]

Why do you keep repeating the same tired misrepresentation? It does not matter if she or Marriott went public. What matters if she and/or the Marriott communicated a known lie to a third party. That's it. Nothing in the law says anything about going public. You are just as bad as you claim florio is

This whole thing is stupid really. Marriott kick him out the hotel. Irvin said what did I do? They say talk you the NFL. Irvin talks to the NFL. They say what did you do to a female employee last night? He's confused cause he did nothing and says I did nothing. NFL says we have video, see this still image? Irvin says oh yeah I must have talked to her. What did I say. NFL says it was really bad trust us but we can't tell you what you said. This one is getting settled out of court.

What’s this employees incentive or angle to lie?

 

[CowboyFrog]

What’s this employees incentive or angle to lie?

She may not be lying but if we are just going to convict people all over on accusations then we dont need a legal system. Maybe it starts with your neighbor, he seems nice enough but really he cant stand you cut your grass to short and your suspended from work for harrasing him, your employer looks you dead in the eye and says "Why would he lie, whats his angle" your not going to go "Well i dont know so it must be true"

 

[Diehardblues]

She may not be lying but if we are just going to convict people all over on accusations then we dont need a legal system. Maybe it starts with your neighbor, he seems nice enough but really he cant stand you cut your grass to short and your suspended from work for harrasing him, your employer looks you dead in the eye and says "Why would he lie, whats his angle" your not going to go "Well i dont know so it must be true"

 

[Diehardblues]

She may not be lying but if we are just going to convict people all over on accusations then we dont need a legal system. Maybe it starts with your neighbor, he seems nice enough but really he cant stand you cut your grass to short and your suspended from work for harrasing him, your employer looks you dead in the eye and says "Why would he lie, whats his angle" your not going to go "Well i dont know so it must be true"

Who was convicted. He was moved to another hotel.

People are asked to leave or removed from premises all of the time. A legal course isn’t necessary. Business are allowed to refuse service to anyone at anytime.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

They don't have high paid lawyers. They have corporate law lawyers who were so bad they couldn't make it in private practice. Also this isn't getting dismissed. But it shows you where Marriott is with this. B they are like whoa this ain't it fault go talk to the owner of the property. Unfortunately it's a Marriott branded property. It's not getting dismissed. Once again I ask what was said it 45 seconds that was so harassing and inappropriate? Especially when she approached him and it ended in a handshake.

Agree, the handshake part gets me, if someone said something that offends me, I am not shaking your hand for d— sure.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Who was convicted. He was moved to another hotel.

People are asked to leave or removed from premises all of the time. A legal course isn’t necessary. Business are allowed to refuse service to anyone at anytime.

Ooh i thought they also called his employer and it got him removed from the coverage of the biggest game of the year in his career field...

 

[Diehardblues]

Agree, the handshake part gets me, if someone said something that offends me, I am not shaking your hand for d— sure.

Unless you’re apologizing and the victim is trying to get you to walk away.

 

[Diehardblues]

Ooh i thought they also called his employer and it got him removed from the coverage of the biggest game of the year in his career field...

It did but who would have known if Irvin didn’t go public with it?

 

[CouchCoach]

I said as the emplyer of the accuser you can act, and to the point did the hotel not claim they had video proof of a physical encounter then moved it to only verbal when pressed for the video? Thats not giving off the "I'm completley right" vibe either. Again like #88 dont like him it really does not change they way we as a country handle accusations, The Hotel had a obligation to thier employee to move him, the NFL network has alot on the line if this comes out to be nothing and they acted without anything that proves he said something wrong, again like it or not we are suppose to work off your innocent until proven guilty, when this changes it will change everyones life and not for the better.

I do not recall seeing that they said they had video of a physical encounter.

The other thing we do not know is any history NFLN has with Irvin that might lead them to just send him back to Dallas.

I do think his case, if there is one, is against NFLN, not the hotel or the woman. However, they also have that radio interview when he said he was hiding out. Irvin made it look like he was hiding more than out with that statement and the don't remember.

I don't know what he said to her but if he's still married, I do not think he's going to confess to propositioning her. Hell, all of this may be show for his wife. "Honey, I am so innocent I am going to sue them and get you a bigger ring than Kobe got his wife".

All I know is that I am thankful this happened because there are 10 "Stephen sez" threads in this Zone. I wish it had been him talking to the woman at the Marriott.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Unless you’re apologizing and the victim is trying to get you to walk away.

Could be but in my case I would be yelling get the h—- away from me.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well if Marriott isn’t the owner Irving can just change the lawsuit to whoever owns it, but also then why is Marriott making these comments if they have nothing to do with it. Plus how can you call yourself a Marriott and not be a Marriott? So weird.

My guess is because it deals with franchising to where someone bought a property and is licensed to use the name and rights for Marriott. However, I'd imagine that the suit would be sent to being still initially against Marriott because it is using their name. I could, on the other hand, see the suit being amended to be directed specifically at that franchise.

 

[CouchCoach]

Agree, the handshake part gets me, if someone said something that offends me, I am not shaking your hand for d— sure.

He was still a guest at that time and if he extended his hand, she would have been considered rude to a guest to decline. She didn't know what the hotel was going to do with her report, she was just following protocol and I'd bet if Marriott is letting them use their name, they're following Marriott protocols concerned guests, safety and security.

 

[CouchCoach]

Could be but in my case I would be yelling get the h—- away from me.

Not if that is your place of work and there are rules in place for handling anything that might cause a scene.

 

[CouchCoach]

My guess is because it deals with franchising to where someone bought a property and is licensed to use the name and rights for Marriott. However, I'd imagine that the suit would be sent to being still initially against Marriott because it is using their name. I could, on the other hand, see the suit being amended to be directed specifically at that franchise.

If they're just leasing that name, Marriott isn't culpable in the operation of the hotel. That hotel's management is responsible.

 

[CouchCoach]

Ooh i thought they also called his employer and it got him removed from the coverage of the biggest game of the year in his career field...

I believe all they reported was he had been moved but I am sure NFLN wanted to know why. Hell, this is Irvin, not Warner.

 

[Diehardblues]

Could be but in my case I would be yelling get the h—- away from me.

Not if that is your place of work and there are rules in place for handling anything that might cause a scene.

That’s right. Much like kissin any customers butt with a fake smile, etc.

Looks like she handled the company protocol to a T.

 

[Diehardblues]

I believe all they reported was he had been moved but I am sure NFLN wanted to know why. Hell, this is Irvin, not Warner.

Right.

If this had been Aikman or Emmitt for example. . No problem but Irvin and his sexual abuse history. Roll the tapes please.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

If they're just leasing that name, Marriott isn't culpable in the operation of the hotel. That hotel's management is responsible.

Here's what an actual lawyer said about this:

"Marriott argues that it doesn’t own the Phoenix hotel at which Irvin engaged in some type of alleged wrongdoing, prompting a complaint to NFL Network and, in turn, Irvin’s removal from Super Bowl-week programming. Instead, Marriott says it only “leases its brand” to the owner of the property.

That may not matter. The hotel is a Marriott location. It’s hard to imagine Marriott avoiding responsibility based on the technical legal relationship between the corporation and the actual owner/operator of the hotel, especially if the hotel identifies itself as a Marriott property."

 

[Rayman70]

Generation Snowflake

mommy he looked at me wrong..

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Not if that is your place of work and there are rules in place for handling anything that might cause a scene.

Depending on the situation and how it goes down you might have to be firm, I work in banking but would never let someone walk all over me and have had some things get loud in the branch because someone disrespecting me or the tellers.