News: PFT: Michael Irvin "remains suspended" by NFL Network

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Irv will be ok. There's always work at the US Post Office. He's no different than the rest of us.
 

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ITs a kangaroo court but you will never admit that, right?

Never hold them to their own words and so called promises right to be fair and do the right thing?
If it is a court at all, it is the court of public opinion and the NFL is uber sensitive to that. However, it is not a court, Irvin has filed his suit to go to court.

And do you think it is possible that through their investigator that went on site to view this video and interview the woman they might have more insight and knowledge into this? Add to that they have knowledge of Irvin and his questionable actions of the past? In fact, might that be the cause of the fast actions of this investigator?

And one thing we do not know is the standing orders for the Marriott about guests that are employees of the NFL. Were they supposed to contact them about any employee or just a select handful with some history unknown to the public?

The facts haven't changed in this and we do not know them and are unlikely to ever know them. However, the known history of this individual works against him.
 

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The NFL is the ultimate do as I say not as I do institution.

Instead of holding the sponsors accountable for something questionable, they lay down.

ITS NOT LIKE THERE ARE NOT PLENTY OF OTHERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE AN NFL SPONSOR.

ITs not about money as it is about power and their love of using it
Do you think that is any different than any big business in this country?

And I do not know what Marriott pays them to be a sponsor, do you? You seem to think that is easily replaceable........after they choose their questionable employee over a sponsor with the others looking on.

If Irvin was totally innocent and they knew that for a fact, what do you think they would do? Cry foul and champion Irvin's cause? How many owners do you think would be in favor of saving the guy crowing about the Cowboys on their network?

Do not confuse the ideals of justice in this country with the realism of big business.
 

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Where image rules the land, there is no due process. And the NFL isn't a court of law.
No, the NFL is a private, although exempt from anti-trust laws, enterprise so they can establish their own policies on behavior. Still, we can opine on their policies and, IMO, I think they are unfair in cases like this. But I understand why they want to err on the side of caution. They cannot make another mistake like they did with Ray Rice.
 

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No, the NFL is a private, although exempt from anti-trust laws, enterprise so they can establish their own policies on behavior. Still, we can opine on their policies and, IMO, I think they are unfair in cases like this. But I understand why they want to err on the side of caution. They cannot make another mistake like they did with Ray Rice.
And Ray Rice did not involve a NFL sponsor. This complicates the entire situation and if sacrificing one employee to keep a sponsor happy is necessary, they will do that. And it's not like the sponsor did anything wrong, they are the defendant in this lawsuit.

Those so enraged by the injustice of it all, do you bother to take a look at the real problems with the application of the laws on all citizens? Is it really innocent until proven guilty? Or is that just a handy slogan?

Irvin has failed to provide proof that he did not do what the woman says he did. But have you considered how much of a subject this would not be had he just remained silent and out of view and let the NFLN handle this? I think this would all be in the rearview mirror and he would most likely be back on the air.

Without that call in and lawsuit, would we know anything about this? Marriott was done with this until he filed that suit.
 

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Ahhhh, new Irvin news even if there really isn't anything new. My heart is filled with joy and I cry for happy.

I look forward to a spirited duel with the Irvinites and their crusade for justice and the American Way.

C'mon me buckos, how much more to you want to know about one of our member's thoughts on our 7th round pick?
 

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Conspiracy Theory......need to lighten this up some...

Stephen A. Smith set up Michael Irvin. Because he was tired of being schooled by Michael on TV. :muttley:

This has no bearing on me and my life. Whatever happens, happens, and we all move on.
1 week we get to talk draft.
 

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The NFL has decided to keep Michael Irvin suspended based on "merit". Ok, so where is the concrete evidence against Irvin to keep him suspended?
make no mistake, he is being paid... so as a result, they have technically done noting to Irvin. Think of this as the commissioners exempt list. Put you in the corner to avoid looking bad in the public. They could easily do this for however long his contract is, then when his contract expires, simply not renew it and the NFL network just lets the story fade away.
 

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Conspiracy Theory......need to lighten this up some...

Stephen A. Smith set up Michael Irvin. Because he was tired of being schooled by Michael on TV. :muttley:

This has no bearing on me and my life. Whatever happens, happens, and we all move on.
1 week we get to talk draft.
except Stephen A came on the air almost crying in support of Irvin the person, who he called a brother. Smith has a schtick on TV and Irvin and him played it well together, but they are good friends.
 

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I think the important news is that they have decided to not allow him back to cover the draft considering there was no police report filed and Irvin is the one who filed the lawsuit.

As always, I have no opinion on his innocence or guilt, but it seems strange they would keep him away from the draft when he is not the defendent against any charges or legal actions.
all about public appearances. They will keep him in the corner, the equivalent of the Commissioners exempt list for the remainder of his contract, let it expire and not renew it. This way they pay him, avoiding a suit by Irvin against them, and avoiding public backlash for putting him back on the air.
 

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Reversing the suspension could cause more harm to the nfl in regards to Irvings lawsuite. No way they can admit or elude to having wrongfully suspended Irving without putting that case in serious jeapardy.
if he is getting paid, which I promise you he is, he is technically not suspended.
 

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And Ray Rice did not involve a NFL sponsor. This complicates the entire situation and if sacrificing one employee to keep a sponsor happy is necessary, they will do that. And it's not like the sponsor did anything wrong, they are the defendant in this lawsuit.

Those so enraged by the injustice of it all, do you bother to take a look at the real problems with the application of the laws on all citizens? Is it really innocent until proven guilty? Or is that just a handy slogan?

Irvin has failed to provide proof that he did not do what the woman says he did. But have you considered how much of a subject this would not be had he just remained silent and out of view and let the NFLN handle this? I think this would all be in the rearview mirror and he would most likely be back on the air.

Without that call in and lawsuit, would we know anything about this? Marriott was done with this until he filed that suit.
5 of the 10 amendments in the Bill of Rights deal with justice for individuals. It was not just a slogan to the authors of the constitution. It is unfortunate it has become so today.

I don't blame Irvin for suing if he did nothing wrong. I think the penalties for falsely accusing others should be harsher. People's lives today are ruined based only on a accusation and often they get nothing in return once they are exonerated.
 

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its for their own reputation, business cant have you be one of the faces of the network with that kind of allegations until its 100% clear

in some cases
 
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Fill me in. Was there another video? The only one I’ve seen of is her pursuing Irvin and them talking.

What did the other video show or what did I miss?
The discussion I was having was about Willie McGinest. He assaulted a guy in a nightclub in Hollywood. There was a video of it that TMZ posted but it’s been removed off YouTube or at least I can’t find it. He was suspended from NFL Network and then fired. He posted an apology on Twitter after he turned himself in for the assault. If you go to Twitter you can see his apology. He hasn’t posted since.
 

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Really? Thats what the video saw? Or is that nowadays you cant say anything without offending someone? I bet you dollars to donuts that woman has had 10 times worse things said to her being a bartender from drunken idiots but because they werent famous she kept her mouth shut.
I’m sure that woman has had worse things said to her but not by famous people. If Michael Irvin was just a regular guy this wouldn’t be happening.
 

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its for their own reputation, business cant have you be one of the faces of the network with that kind of allegations until its 100% clear

in some cases
Not to mention, Irvin has loose lips. It was his chiming in when no one was asking that got this whole ball rolling in the first place. I also think that if he had just kept quiet and accepted the moving of hotels, no one would have known about that incident and his job wouldn't be in question. When you have a sweet gig like that you have to protect it as much as you have the power to do so.
 

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He will be working for the Cowboys network soon ....... Jerry will be able to keep it hush hush when he sexually harasses the girls on there.
 
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