PFT: Ominous Development in looming CBA battle

[mmillman]

You're correct, that isn't a legit reason why they should get paid a ton. For the regular Joe fan, yes it seems as if the salaries are exhorbitant.

However, the owners are making a ton of money, too. It's only fair that they reinvest in the product. Reinvesting means paying their players.

Why are they making so much money? Ticket prices, food, aparrel, television etc..... is paid for by the fan. The more they want to make the more you and I pay. You are seeing the most current trend in Stadiums and the NFL pay per view move. That is the problem I have with the salaries.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I can not imagine an upcapped league. Players would be making an insane amount of money, as if they don't already.

There would also be a much greater difference between the top teams and the bottom teams. So from a competitive standpoint there would be a huge backward step taken.

I don't know this guy the league has hired but they have two years to figure something out with the players union.

Any work stoppage is unacceptable and can only hurt the NFL.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You're correct, that isn't a legit reason why they should get paid a ton. For the regular Joe fan, yes it seems as if the salaries are exhorbitant.

However, the owners are making a ton of money, too. It's only fair that they reinvest in the product. Reinvesting means paying their players.

Which is the meaning of my first post. The owners make so much money because we as fans are willing to pay the exhorbitant prices they offer us. If we refused to pay, then would have no choice but to lower the price.

Look at Washington. Daniel Snyder absolutely raps Commander fans two ways from Tuesday, yet they don't care. They pay it anyway! Therefore, the next time Mr. Snyder decides he wants more money, he will have no qualms about raising prices, because he knows his fans will foolishly pay it.

The fault lies squarely on the fans heads. We are the ones who pay the NFL billions of dollars a year. ($225 for a authentic jersey? That has to be 2,000% markup easy!!) The owners have billions in their pockets, the players just want a bigger cut of it.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Why are they making so much money? Ticket prices, food, aparrel, television etc..... is paid for by the fan. The more they want to make the more you and I pay. You are seeing the most current trend in Stadiums and the NFL pay per view move. That is the problem I have with the salaries.

Which is the meaning of my first post. The owners make so much money because we as fans are willing to pay the exhorbitant prices they offer us. If we refused to pay, then would have no choice but to lower the price.

Look at Washington. Daniel Snyder absolutely raps Commander fans two ways from Tuesday, yet they don't care. They pay it anyway! Therefore, the next time Mr. Snyder decides he wants more money, he will have no qualms about raising prices, because he knows his fans will foolishly pay it.

The fault lies squarely on the fans heads. We are the ones who pay the NFL billions of dollars a year. ($225 for a authentic jersey? That has to be 2,000% markup easy!!) The owners have billions in their pockets, the players just want a bigger cut of it.

That's the crux of the matter.

We like our teams and when they have success, we like them so much more that we're willing to pay any and everything to watch their continued success or failure (depending on the team).

It's a neverending cycle. So I'm not going to complain about the salaries athletes get paid when I know I'll be the first in line trying to get tix to a Cowboys game.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It's a neverending cycle. So I'm not going to complain about the salaries athletes get paid when I know I'll be the first in line trying to get tix to a Cowboys game.

At least you have that luxury. Being in the New York metro area, I dont. I was lucky enough to go to Miami last year in Miami. God, I love my wife!!!

 

[AdamJT13]

I have no idea what the actual number is. I just grabbed $1.1M from NFLPA.org's FAQ

Notice which year the FAQ refers to? It's 2000. That's why it says the salary cap was $62 million and the average salary was $1.1 million -- it's about eight years old.

 

[iceberg]

We could be headed to a big-time work stoppage in the NFL come 2010.

And if there is no cap... wow... the business implications for the teams that need the cap in order to stay profitable is immense.

if they go on strike, that's gonna about do it for me. if you make 7+ figures a year, you should not be allowed to go on strike.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Notice which year the FAQ refers to? It's 2000. That's why it says the salary cap was $62 million and the average salary was $1.1 million -- it's about eight years old.

Thats what I get for not reading the whole quote. I just snatched the quote from Google and saw where it was from.

Of course, all it does is reinforced my point...

 

[rguido]

Just think players go on strike, owners hire nobodies for a few weeks... charge the same prices because the tickets are sold in advance and they make a ton of cash....

 

[Rockytop6]

How many people could do your job...how many can play in the NFL?

I don't think that should be the criterion. I think the better gauge should be whose work contributes most to the value of society? Are you more interested in finding a cure for cancer, diebetes, etc.; finding a solution to the water shortage in America, global warming, etc., or being entertained for three hours on Sunday afternoon?

I enjoy my football. But I would rather pay people who make the greater contributions to the welfare and well being of society than to see a sportsfigure run up and down a football field or hit a homerun, etc. Sports play an important part in the entertainment field and it isn't to be ignored but where should it rate on the salary scale?

It seems people who are in the business of saving lives should be paid a little more than someone who can throw a ball 70 yards.

It is totally out of balance.

 

[iceberg]

I don't think that should be the criterion. I think the better gauge should be whose work contributes most to the value of society? Are you more interested in finding a cure for cancer, diebetes, etc.; finding a solution to the water shortage in America, global warming, etc., or being entertained for three hours on Sunday afternoon?

I enjoy my football. But I would rather pay people who make the greater contributions to the welfare and well being of society than to see a sportsfigure run up and down a football field or hit a homerun, etc. Sports play an important part in the entertainment field and it isn't to be ignored but where should it rate on the salary scale?

It seems people who are in the business of saving lives should be paid a little more than someone who can throw a ball 70 yards.

It is totally out of balance.

when people pay millions to watch him save lives, salaries will go up.

no one to blame on how much money athletes make except us for paying it. i've said it many times that sooner or later it will hit a ceilling and the next generation of "show me the money" players are gonna get upset they can't be the next highest player and chaos will ensue.

 

[David276]

we arent in a perfect world to the dude talking about saving lives. and secondly this is great the quality of football will increase greatly to a level we have never seen. even the small market teams are making huge cash now. this is not the 80's. FA sucks.

 

[FCBarca]

Strike is looming, bank on it

 

[juck]

I like the salary cap. I know that without it Jerry would go nuts and pay for player after player but at the same time the quality of football would go down for teams because of the teams that wouldn't do that.

You would seriously have teams full of nobodies playing against pro bowl teams. It would be fun to watch for a game or two but would suck after that.

Well it wasnt like that all thru time before the cap,teams won that didnt spend everything,the steelers of all teams won 4 rings in the 70s.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I bet next year alot of Juniors will come out early for the 09 draft because it will be the last year for the good bucks.

 

[zeromaster]

Look at Washington. Daniel Snyder absolutely raps Commander fans two ways from Tuesday, yet they don't care.

A rapping Dan Snyder is indeed a scary thing.

j/k

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't think that should be the criterion. I think the better gauge should be whose work contributes most to the value of society? Are you more interested in finding a cure for cancer, diebetes, etc.; finding a solution to the water shortage in America, global warming, etc., or being entertained for three hours on Sunday afternoon?

I enjoy my football. But I would rather pay people who make the greater contributions to the welfare and well being of society than to see a sportsfigure run up and down a football field or hit a homerun, etc. Sports play an important part in the entertainment field and it isn't to be ignored but where should it rate on the salary scale?

It seems people who are in the business of saving lives should be paid a little more than someone who can throw a ball 70 yards.

It is totally out of balance.

No, it isn't. The market balances it as well as it can be balanced. There are millions of those jobs you consider crucial, while there are less than 2000 player jobs in the NFL. When you squeeze the talent down to that small a pool, you're talking about a very valuable commodity. If we weren't willing to pay for tickets and jerseys, they couldn't make that much.

It has nothing to do with what you consider more important.

 

[arglebargle]

Players are endangering themselves a gread deal by playing football. Don't let anyone fool you that it is not a blood sport. These guys get seriously messed up, and suffer life long problems from their work. Guys getting back vertabre fusions, shoulder and knee replacements by their '40's, and the like. It's a risky business.

The team owners mostly risk slipping on a wet spot on the way to their fancy box. And, really, would you rather it be them and the lawyers making all the money?

 

[burmafrd]

If the owners are stupid enough to dump the CBA, it will be a disaster for the NFL. The players have said time and again that they will never let the Cap come back if it goes away. Without the Cap you will get what you have in baseball with the richest 6-8 teams buying up all the talent. the other 24-26 teams mired in mediocrity. How long will they last?
I hated FA and the CAP because it demolished the 90's Boys and the quality of play has gotten bad. BUT that is the reality and you cannot put the Genie back in the bottle.
Not without causing a whole lot of damage.

 

[needforspeed]

How many people could do your job...how many can play in the NFL?

You couldn't do my job, yet you're dogging someone else?

BTW, your username is humorous.