PFT: Parsons has gone 38 straight quarters w/o drawing a holding penalty

[Brooksey]

It's a rigged system, he's held 5-6 times per game.

 

[Fizziksman]

If refs called the game fairly for the likes of Garret Parsons Watt every offense they faced would need 20 yards to get a first down and they would get 20+ sack totals. League will always prioritize offense

 

[CWR]

He's also being double teamed which is an exception in the holding rules. Did you know that?

Unless he's has them beat, and he beat them like a drum.

 

[BigWillie]

Just to be clear, are you saying that once Micah splits a double team, they need to let go of him completely? The rule states that any holding is not called if a double team unless one splits and gets to the outside of one of them.

They cannot HOLD him. The same loophole that you stated that started the discussion. Once Micah split OR cleared the shoulder of the defenders, he can no longer be restricted (i.e., held) by the linemen legally.

And what is this new video supposed to show? This is not a double team on Parsons (Lawrence is being double teamed) and the OL is allowed to block from the side just like in the other video I'm discussing.

So the picture clearly shows two lineman engaged with Parsons. Now you see the video and say the opposite is actually happening and it isn't a double team block?

 

[Sydla]

Sorry if repost.........

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ve-quarters-without-drawing-a-holding-penalty

Micah Parsons has gone 38 consecutive quarters without drawing a holding penalty​

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• Charean Williams

Published December 27, 2023 10:46 PM

Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett was fined $25,000 for criticizing officials after a game against the Jaguars. That’s likely what prompted Micah Parsons on Wednesday to express little interest in talking about the lack of holding calls he’s gotten this season.

Parsons then talked about the lack of holding calls he’s gotten this season.

I am generally curious how this drought compares to other elite pass rushers like Garrett, Bosa, etc.

 

[MarcusRock]

They cannot HOLD him. The same loophole that you stated that started the discussion. Once Micah split OR cleared the shoulder of the defenders, he can no longer be restricted (i.e., held) by the linemen legally.


So the picture clearly shows two lineman engaged with Parsons. Now you see the video and say the opposite is actually happening and it isn't a double team block?

That's right they can't HOLD him. They can still contact him. And he was not held as they contacted him with the play by play I've explained.

So that Seattle video you posted is supposed to be the motion of that still shot back on Page 1? Ha! Even more reason to prove my point that still photos are deceiving when you're looking for a motion penalty. The photo looks like a double team block but when you actually roll the video, 75 was initially engaged with Lawrence and when Lawrence fell he stuck a faint paw out at Parsons passing by. That makes it even less of a hold comparing it to the "damning" still photo. So of course you're out now because your video actually proved what I was saying about still shots from the very beginning. But you're going to try to "ah ha" me to a double team block when your video proved it actually wasn't? You helped prove my "pictures are garbage" point. You people think I'm a late sleeper or something? Lol. Lawd!

 

[Jake]

I'm tired of the crybaby stuff. Just another excuse for coming up short.

Do you think Charles Haley wasn't held? Of course he was. He just didn't do a podcast crying about it, he overcame it.

Some of y'all just love the excuses. I didn't have time for that stuff when I was a boss, and I don't have time for it now. You're great? Overcome it and be great.

 

[Zekeats]

It's a rigged system, he's held 5-6 times per game.

Ive seen it per drive

 

[Scotman]

That's not football. That's a game called Red Rover.

 

[TheHerd]

To shut everyone up, he’ll get an inconsequential call in the first quarter Sat. Book it.

 

[Proof]

By the way, did y'all know that Zack Martin has had consecutive stretches of no holding calls for this many quarters during his career:

181 quarters (45 games!)
118 quarters (29 games)
120 quarters (30 games)

That's a stretch of 2 holds in 104 games, or almost 6 and a half seasons for those of you keeping score at home. How is that humanly possible? He's currently on a 37 quarter streak. 1 less than Parsons. If the above is not odd, yet Parsons is, how do you reconcile that? Lol.

zack martin is one of the best at his position of all time. it is believable that he can go long stretches w/out committing a foul. it is far less conceivable that opponents of varying skill level are not committing fouls against micah parson. the two are not comparable.

 

[Cowboys5217]

If refs called the game fairly for the likes of Garret Parsons Watt every offense they faced would need 20 yards to get a first down and they would get 20+ sack totals. League will always prioritize offense

You are admitting it is rigged, and trying to justify it.

 

[Cowboys5217]

They cannot HOLD him. The same loophole that you stated that started the discussion. Once Micah split OR cleared the shoulder of the defenders, he can no longer be restricted (i.e., held) by the linemen legally.


So the picture clearly shows two lineman engaged with Parsons. Now you see the video and say the opposite is actually happening and it isn't a double team block?

That person will insist you believe him over your lying eyes.

 

[G2]

I'm tired of the crybaby stuff. Just another excuse for coming up short.

Do you think Charles Haley wasn't held? Of course he was. He just didn't do a podcast crying about it, he overcame it.

Some of y'all just love the excuses. I didn't have time for that stuff when I was a boss, and I don't have time for it now. You're great? Overcome it and be great.

Just accepting a lesser quality product so you can pound your chest is silly. Also, not a real solid comparison.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I am generally curious how this drought compares to other elite pass rushers like Garrett, Bosa, etc.

Be sure to check on how much their own teams get called for holding. You'll find that it's only the Cowboys who both don't get holding calls in their pass rusher's favor, and are under a ref microscope when it come to holding calls against them. We get jobbed both ways. No other team does to an even remotely close degree. We are ranked 1 on offense for holding calls and 2nd on defense for holding calls. No other team is in the top 6 for both.

 

[Brooksey]

Be sure to check on how much their own teams get called for holding. You'll find that it's only the Cowboys who both don't get holding calls in their pass rusher's favor, and are under a ref microscope when it come to holding calls against them. We get jobbed both ways. No other team does to an even remotely close degree. We are ranked 1 on offense for holding calls and 2nd on defense for holding calls. No other team is in the top 6 for both.

Because it subjective and unreviewable with 100m a week bet on the Cowboys game each week.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Also, you should check this kid out.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Why do we have to have 19,000 different Flat Earth...errrrr..."BUT, BUT, THE REFS"-threads?

They're all the same thing by the same people. Can't they be squirted together in 1 lame thread?

 

[RoboQB]

ok and is equally atrocious

It would be atrocious, if it were true. I'm 99.97% sure it's not.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Of course I know. I've posted the rules several times. But in this still shot, where do you see the material restriction of Parsons' path to the ball, making something a hold? Are the OLinemen retracting their arms, extending them more, or about to step to the side after this frame? If you can't answer those questions, you too need video. I haven't even opined whether it is or isn't a hold. I'm just saying a still picture tells you nothing just like a DB's hand on a receiver's shoulder in a still shot doesn't make it PI.

"But in this still shot, where do you see the material restriction of Parsons' path to the ball, making something a hold?"

You gotta be joking..