PFT: Police want to talk to Pacman about Georgia Shooting *Updated*

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I think it is amazingly odd that they refer to his "entourage" as if that is an official position. So that if they do something, Pacman is somehow supposed to know about it as if he is their employer.

Do these guys have business cards with "Pacman's entourage" on them?
 

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jterrell;1531274 said:
this seriously has to be a joke, or hoax....

if true, pacman moves to top of stupidest people alive list.

they need to test his dna for signs of rampant inbreeding if this proves true.
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Vintage;1531277 said:
Stupid if true? Yes.

Stupidest alive?

Not even close.


He needs a mentor....Stupid yes....I used to work with someone stupidier than him though
 

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abersonc;1531271 said:
There was some report of this -- It may have been self-imposed but the report was that in that discussion Goodell asked him when he last went to a strip club -- Pacman's response? Last night.
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. Goodell never asked him to not go to one. He just asked him when the last time he had been to one was. Sort of implied that good judgment would keep him from going to one.

Stone cold idiot.
Without a doubt.

The poor judgement isn't sufficient to keep him out of the league. I'm sure lots of players use poor judgement all the time. We all do. Pacman's problem is that when he uses poor judgement it often ends up reflecting poorly on the league. You can bet that every time Pacmans name gets in mentioned on Sportscenter with anything negative attached that Goodell is throwing another shovel of dirt on his career.
It's a thin line that's for sure.
 

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Vintage;1531277 said:
Stupid if true? Yes.

Stupidest alive?

Not even close.

This guy is risking what 20-30-50 million dollars?

To go to strip clubs?

Pacman is undeniably talented and has the raw ability to be a top 5 CB in the NFL. He is truly a special athlete. His earning potential is monstrous. He's on a young team who showed tons of promise last year.

Now he is going to miss 1 year, be cut by the Titans as soon as he is re-instated apparently, and spends more time talking to cops than a paid informant. It looks very much like his NFL future is all but done.
 

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cobra;1531283 said:
I think it is amazingly odd that they refer to his "entourage" as if that is an official position. So that if they do something, Pacman is somehow supposed to know about it as if he is their employer.

Do these guys have business cards with "Pacman's entourage" on them?

A while back, Saturday Night Live had a reunion show. I think it was their 15th year or so. Eddie Murphy was not there, but his entourage was present. They were listed as official guests. The announcer said "Eddie Murphy's entourage" and it was in writing on screen along with the numerous other guests.

An entourage can be akin to the mafia. The mob boss doesn't get his hand dirty directly as his goons do all the work.

Pacman probably has no control over what his entourage does, but he may need to do a better job of choosing who he hangs out with. Their poor judgment and actions can get him in trouble..
 

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theogt;1531290 said:
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. Goodell never asked him to not go to one. He just asked him when the last time he had been to one was. Sort of implied that good judgment would keep him from going to one.


It's a point where you cant imply anything with him...he needs a rule book for life
 

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theogt;1531290 said:
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. Goodell never asked him to not go to one. He just asked him when the last time he had been to one was. Sort of implied that good judgment would keep him from going to one.

Without a doubt.

It's a thin line that's for sure.

Well, Goodell asked him because Pacman brought it up first. Jones said he could start changing his life by not going to strip clubs. Goodell had already been tipped off that Jones had gone to a strip club the night before and therefore asked Pacman when was the last time he had been.
 

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joseephuss;1531296 said:
Well, Goodell asked him because Pacman brought it up first. Jones said he could start changing his life by not going to strip clubs. Goodell had already been tipped off that Jones had gone to a strip club the night before and therefore asked Pacman when was the last time he had been.
Hence, the self-imposed ban that he never really followed, as I stated.
 

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theogt;1531299 said:
Hence, the self-imposed ban that he never really followed, as I stated.

So Pacman can't follow his own rules let alone the NFL rules that is pretty bad.
 

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joseephuss;1531296 said:
Goodell had already been tipped off that Jones had gone to a strip club the night before and therefore asked Pacman when was the last time he had been.

I wonder if Goodell has NFL security or a PI tracking Pacman
 

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Doomsday101;1531302 said:
So Pacman can't follow his own rules let alone the NFL rules that is pretty bad.
That doesn't exactly make sense. I make rules for myself all the time that I don't follow. But I do follow my employer's rules without problem.

abersonc;1531306 said:
I wonder if Goodell has NFL security or a PI tracking Pacman
Supposedly the club security informed the NFL for that instance, but I don't believe it for a minute.
 

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Vintage;1531172 said:
May be involved.

Well, we all saw how that Chris Henry thread went down. It was reported the accusations were false. And that he failed the drug test, was also false.

Maybe we should withhold judgement until we know more.

Who am I kidding?

Thats not the CBZ way.

Banned for life. Electric chair, etc....

i think the cbz way is a reflection of how people think in groups or on their own. i don't see it "just" here, i see it all over.

wasn't pac man at a strip club the night before he had his hearing also?
 

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Doomsday101;1531302 said:
So Pacman can't follow his own rules let alone the NFL rules that is pretty bad.


Following his own rules is irrelevant.
 

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abersonc;1531306 said:
I wonder if Goodell has NFL security or a PI tracking Pacman

I would not doubt it. From what I remember, a manager at the strip club is the one who narced on Pacman. Maybe a PI asked managers to keep him up to date if Pacman came into their respective clubs. Would not surprise me.
 

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POSTED 11:10 a.m. EDT, June 18, 2007
POLICE: PACMAN WASN'T THERE WHEN SHOOTING OCCURRED by Michael David Smith

As we mentioned earlier, Titans cornerback Pacman Jones has his name in the headlines again, this time in connection with a shooting in DeKalb County, Georgia. But local police say they want Jones for information about the shooters, not because they think he was involved.

According to the Associated Press, Officer Ariel Toledo of the DeKalb Police Department said Jones, his entourage and three other people got into a fight, apparently over a woman, at a club at around 4 a.m., but that Jones wasn't there when a shooting took place afterwards.

"We believe he knows some of his entourage who were involved in the shooting," Toledo said. "On himself, we do not have any charges on him. He wasn't there when the shooting occurred."

One person who was not involved in the dispute was injured. Jones's attorney said he is still trying to find out what happened, but that his understanding is police only want to talk to Jones as a witness.

Even if Jones broke no laws in the incident, this could still be bad news for him. Jones is currently suspended for the entire 2007 season, but has said he is going to work to convince commissioner Roger Goodell to reinstate him after 10 games. Goodell has indicated he is open to that, but only if Jones turns his life around. Given that Goodell was reportedly angry when he learned that Jones visited a strip club before the two of them met in April, he probably won't be too happy with this latest news.​
 

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theogt;1531307 said:
That doesn't exactly make sense. I make rules for myself all the time that I don't follow. But I do follow my employer's rules without problem.

So what part of it does not make sense? This is pretty simple, that you lay down rules for yourself and can't follow them? In Pacmans case he can't seem to do either at least you follow the rules of your employer
 

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joseephuss;1531292 said:
A while back, Saturday Night Live had a reunion show. I think it was their 15th year or so. Eddie Murphy was not there, but his entourage was present. They were listed as official guests. The announcer said "Eddie Murphy's entourage" and it was in writing on screen along with the numerous other guests.

An entourage can be akin to the mafia. The mob boss doesn't get his hand dirty directly as his goons do all the work.

Pacman probably has no control over what his entourage does, but he may need to do a better job of choosing who he hangs out with. Their poor judgment and actions can get him in trouble..

Its called an entourage because one person is financing the deal.

They get to the club and someone is clearing paying for everything. Its probably not even Pacman doing so but its clearly his money.

When you roll 5 or 6 deep somewhere and everyone pays their own way, its called hanging with buddies, when its 5 or 6 deep and 1 person pays, it is an entourage....

And if you are paying for someone else to act stupid, its rather hard to use the 'its not me' defense.
 

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if he was on moreland ave then he was asking for trouble.ANYBODY who is familiar with that area knows that.:banghead:
 

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even if he was not involved in the shooting, he was still involved in another altercation prior to it. Incredibly stupid just does not describe Pacman. And yet some are still defending him. I did not want to jump on this since it started with the Daily Turd-but it seems clear that once again he was in the middle of something really dumb.
 
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