PFT Smith: Wade Phillips upset with officials' mistakes

[DaBoys4Life]

Wade should be upset with Garrett and RW. If he wants to be upset. But whatever.

 

[cowboyjoe]

But that's the thing right there! If you're the ref and you're staring at a guy falling on the ball AND then see a defender fall ON TOP of the first guy who is laying practically face down AND then watch the defender reach underneath the first guy and twist his body 180 degrees face up AND then watch the defender pull the ball out...

...it's maddening to see the ref not make the correct call. People have been shot for lesser offenses. Felix Jones recovered the football. It doesn't get any simplier. Then again, I don't know if I can trust that particular set of refs to know how to boil water! It's crazy!

thats my point im trying to make nothing has been done to those refs for those blown calls; so will you be happy when that same ref and his crew calls another cowboys game and blows even more calls?

we have to stand up and be accounted and let the NFL especiallly commissioner goodell, along with the owners, know how we feel and we are fed up with his wishy washy ways on refs officiating

 

[DaBoys4Life]

it was a live ball

2 people fell on the ball

Felix caughed the ball up like a *****.

No way is any ref going to whistle that play dead.

 

[WoodysGirl]

thats it, you said he didnt have problems with his eye or wasnt blinded, the last article i posted said he did have problems with that eye after the incident, thats why he got a settlement from the nfl

I didn't say he didn't have problems.

You said he blinded a guy. He's not blind.

I said he suffered problems, but he also got back in the league.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I didn't say he didn't have problems.

You said he blinded a guy. He's not blind.

I said he suffered problems, but he also got back in the league.

well best i remember i read somewhere he was blinded and he played for awhile after that incident with only one good eye

i cant find the document now, but you did see the document that i posted where said the eye never got better, etc

anyway, just refs getting the amount of money they are getting each year,
from 100,000 to 200,000 to make these calls and not know the rules, just iritates me to no end, the more i think about it, the madder i get

this could be the game that keeps us out of the playoffs or a bye week into the playoffs; and im not very happy knowing triplette is still refering, nothing done to him, and he might ref another cowboys game that might be another bad refing game against us resulting in another loss

didnt mean to sound like i was calling you out or picking at you, was nice to comment back and forth, refs just get to me sometimes

i wished i could part time make the money like the refs are getting, but i think i would call a better game

of couse you wouldnt want me calling for the cowboys, because id be throwing flags on the opposing teams all the time

i was always taught that you do the best that you can do in your job to the best of your ability; not like the refs are doing

 

[DallasEast]

totally agree; and the big problem, the ref gets away with this, no big deal from the nfl on him to do it again;

thats the part that stinks;
he is paid over 100,000 a year to continue to make calls and not know the rules, and make dumb calls and nfl doesnt hold him accountable

whats up with that;

so basically your saying, were not going to discipline you, so you dont have to worry, keep making the dumb calls that you do, no big deal, the fans wont object enough, so dont worry

In the case of the fumble, I highly doubt that income or knowledge of the rules had anything whatsoever to do with the non-call.

 

[DallasEast]

it was a live ball

2 people fell on the ball

Felix caughed the ball up like a *****.

No way is any ref going to whistle that play dead.

Calling Felix Jones a bad name (shocking ) doesn't matter. When Jones fell on top of the ball, he was in possession of it. When the Packer defender fell on top of him, Jones was downed by contact. If you want to state that the referee was correct in determining that Jones did not recover the ball, simply because the Packer defender twisted his body 180 degrees and wrestled the ball from Jones' grasp while both were physically laying on the ground, that's fine. It simply proves your competency in making the correct call is on the same level as his.

 

[Hoofbite]

Okay, so the officials called a lousy game. What's the league going to do? Call this weekend's game in Dallas' favor?

Probably will. Makeup calls happen all the time and I think they are complete BS.

Making one bad call should not be the reason for making another. Just deal with it and move on.

 

[superpunk]

Didn't the refs (earlier in the game) rule a potential fumble Green Bay's ball before they had even sorted through the pile? It turned out Green Bay had recovered it, But I remember being outraged as they came in signalling GB ball without ever figuring out who had the ball in the pile. If they had applied a similar standard to the Romo/Felix fumble, they should have came flying in with a Dallas' ball signal. It's consistency.

 

[DallasEast]

Didn't the refs (earlier in the game) rule a potential fumble Green Bay's ball before they had even sorted through the pile? It turned out Green Bay had recovered it, But I remember being outraged as they came in signalling GB ball without ever figuring out who had the ball in the pile. If they had applied a similar standard to the Romo/Felix fumble, they should have came flying in with a Dallas' ball signal. It's consistency.

:signmast:

The referee should have reacted automatically and without hesitation making the call. How could he not? It's one of the easiest calls in the rule book (if not THE easiest) when the referee's vision of the events is not obscured by players, etc. Replay should not have been necessary even if it was already in place for reviewing fumble plays.

 

[links18]

Rozelle didn't and you had mistakes back then as well. I hate they made mistakes I do know that the refs are graded by the league and yes you can lose your job. I know some want full time refs and with that will come a stronger union for the refs and it will be even harder to hand down punishment for poor officiating that it is now.

Wow, that's the way to work in an anti-labor dig......

 

[Hook'em#11]

...he should be more concerned with his teams mistakes and miscues...

Whole article was out of your reach wasn't it?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Calling Felix Jones a bad name (shocking ) doesn't matter. When Jones fell on top of the ball, he was in possession of it. When the Packer defender fell on top of him, Jones was downed by contact. If you want to state that the referee was correct in determining that Jones did not recover the ball, simply because the Packer defender twisted his body 180 degrees and wrestled the ball from Jones' grasp while both were physically laying on the ground, that's fine. It simply proves your competency in making the correct call is on the same level as his.

IDK if you can say he had possession or not. But no way are they going to blow that play day without being 100% sure of possession just because one person falls on a ball doesn't mean they will manage to secure it prime example would be the Ravens game last year and Hamlin fell on the fumble and didn't recover the ball.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Wade, if you had a spine, you be calling out some of your players who make mistakes that lead to bad calls.
Wade takes the easy way out of a loss. blame the officials. You can't win your way out of a 10 point loss by blaming the refs.

Be a man for once, and blame yourself, the other coaches and the players.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Wade, if you had a spine, you be calling out some of your players who make mistakes that lead to bad calls.
Wade takes the easy way out of a loss. blame the officials. You can't win your way out of a 10 point loss by blaming the refs.

Be a man for once, and blame yourself, the other coaches and the players.

 

[DallasEast]

IDK if you can say he had possession or not. But no way are they going to blow that play day without being 100% sure of possession just because one person falls on a ball doesn't mean they will manage to secure it prime example would be the Ravens game last year and Hamlin fell on the fumble and didn't recover the ball.

Let me put it this way.

Even Joe Buck of all people eventually stated that Felix Jones had possession of the ball.

I cannot make it any more plain than that without going the extra step of adding video to the thread.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Let me put it this way.

Even Joe Buck of all people eventually stated that Felix Jones had possession of the ball.

I cannot make it any more plain than that without going the extra step of adding video to the thread.

Well, if Joe Buck said it . . . .



And while you and Joe Buck wring your dainty hands, it's on to thE WASHINGTON Commanders!!!!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

it was a live ball

2 people fell on the ball

Felix caughed the ball up like a *****.

No way is any ref going to whistle that play dead.

are you blind?

he fell on top of it then a Packer jumped on him, twirled him onto his back and yanked the ball out of his hand, there was control, contact and then the strip, ergo down by contact.

 

[joseephuss]

Wade, if you had a spine, you be calling out some of your players who make mistakes that lead to bad calls.
Wade takes the easy way out of a loss. blame the officials. You can't win your way out of a 10 point loss by blaming the refs.

Be a man for once, and blame yourself, the other coaches and the players.

Wade has blamed himself plenty during his tenure in Dallas.

How many coaches actually call out their players in the press? I mean really just call them out and say they played poorly and were one of the main reasons their team lost. I really can't remember too many of the great coaches doing that out in public. They probably do behind closed doors. I am not sure if Wade does that or not. Hopefully he does, but it would be out of the norm for a coach to show he had a spine by calling out a player in public.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I don't see how stating the refs screwed you over is mutually exclusive from stating the team played badly.

You can play badly and still be screwed over.