Philadelphia Eagles Examiner: No, the Cowboys don't appear to be going away

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5Stars;2818913 said:
Really? What about the o-line?
Actually, it did, Kosier should be 100% and we added some much needed depth via the draft. Add to that the fact that they have another year under their belts as a cohesive unit and things should only get better. They also won't be relied upon as much to pass block every other play as our new offensive philosophy appears to be going the way of the power running game.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818918 said:
Actually, it did, Kosier should be 100% and we added some much needed depth via the draft. Add to that the fact that they have another year under their belts as a cohesive unit and things should only get better. They also won't be relied upon as much to pass block every other play as our new offensive philosophy appears to be going the way of the power running game.


Good post...!

But, who did we draft as oline backups that might help?
 

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5Stars;2818913 said:
Really? What about the o-line?
Its healthy again and Brewster is a new project talent to try out, so the effort to improve was there and the benefit of the doubt is given in return.

So long as the starting five stay healthy the position is not a concern.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818893 said:
Anyone in Dallas who doesn't have doubts about Dallas being a contender is just as much a homer.

If you don't expect this team to contend you ain't much of a fan. Vegas has Dallas 5-1 behind only the 4-1 Giants and 9-2 Eagles to win the NFC and they stand to win or lose millions based on those numbers so it sure as heck ain't no joke. No matter what YOUR personal doubts the public sees them as contenders and only haters or those with weak constitutions don't see it that way. This team has the talent and now they have a shot at a better attitude with some weak lnks gone.
 

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5Stars;2818913 said:
Really? What about the o-line?
A healthy Adams, Kosier and Montrell should make the o-line better. I would like to see them all improve, but they should be better as a group than last year if for no other reason than health.

edit: OOPS should have read all the other posts before responding.
 

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Big Dakota;2818939 said:
If you don't expect this team to contend you ain't much of a fan. Vegas has Dallas 5-1 behind only the 4-1 Giants and 9-2 Eagles to win the NFC and they stand to win or lose millions based on those numbers so it sure as heck ain't no joke. No matter what YOUR personal doubts the public sees them as contenders and only haters or those with weak constitutions don't see it that way. This team has the talent and now they have a shot at a better attitude with some weak lnks gone.
Imagine how wealthy you'd be if you'd put your 401K (pre-stock market collapse) on the Cardinals to reach the Super Bowl last year.

We'd be good friends, retired good friends.
 

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5Stars;2818928 said:
Good post...!

But, who did we draft as oline backups that might help?
Barring injury nobody....

But, I personally feel that if something were to happen to Colombo, or even to a lesser extent Adams, that Brewster could step in and would fare quite well. One guy that we did draft that should have an impact from day one is John Philips. I know that this is borderline blasphemy, but IN MY OPINION he is he already the best blocking TE we have on the roster, and in this new style of offense he should thrive in his role as a blocking TE. I understand that Philips is not an Offensive Lineman, but he will be like a sixth OL because his strength is not in the passing game, but in the blocking game.

As far as I can tell we are pretty much set as far as depth goes at OG. If something were to happen to Kosier we have Proctor, who was wrongfully over-criticized last year in my mind, and if need be we have the option of turning to Holland who was quite impressive in his limited playing time last season. That's not to say that I would feel 100% confident if we did indeed have to turn to Proctor, I simply don't think he played as poorly last season as a lot of us let on. He, much like Jenkins, is going to live the rest of his career as a Cowboy being defined by a single play.
 

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Big Dakota;2818939 said:
If you don't expect this team to contend you ain't much of a fan. Vegas has Dallas 5-1 behind only the 4-1 Giants and 9-2 Eagles to win the NFC and they stand to win or lose millions based on those numbers so it sure as heck ain't no joke. No matter what YOUR personal doubts the public sees them as contenders and only haters or those with weak constitutions don't see it that way. This team has the talent and now they have a shot at a better attitude with some weak lnks gone.
Wow, you'd fare wonderfully in Communist China or in Russia in the 1940's. So because a person has doubts about his/her team going into a season they are a "bad fan?"

Interesting theory....
 

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Aikbach;2818933 said:
Its healthy again and Brewster is a new project talent to try out, so the effort to improve was there and the benefit of the doubt is given in return.

So long as the starting five stay healthy the position is not a concern.

I don't know about that! Expecting the "starting five to stay healthy" is a MAJOR concern.

The game, as they say, is won in the trenches.

To me, and I'm no expert, but I hope the Cowboys have shored up both lines, defense and offense...because all the skill players in the world don't have a chance if the big boys get injured! They do all the work in the first place!


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Aikbach;2818944 said:
Imagine how wealthy you'd be if you'd put your 401K (pre-stock market collapse) on the Cardinals to reach the Super Bowl last year.

We'd be good friends, retired good friends.
I don't remember but they were probably in the 30-1 range to win the NFC and 50-1 to win the SB.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818948 said:
Wow, you'd fare wonderfully in Communist China or in Russia in the 1940's. So because a person has doubts about his/her team going into a season they are a "bad fan?"

Interesting theory....


I say more of a chicken ****.
 

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5Stars;2818949 said:
I don't know about that! Expecting the "starting five to stay healthy" is a MAJOR concern.

The game, as they say, is won in the trenches.

To me, and I'm no expert, but I hope the Cowboys have shored up both lines, defense and offense...because all the skill players in the world don't have a chance if the big boys get injured! They do all the work in the first place!


;)
I honestly don't see much changing in the way of production on the defensive side of the line. Olshanksy is not necessarily an upgrade, but he's not a downgrade either. He is a guy who does better against the run while Canty was a better DE vs. the pass. I don't expect to see much of a drop-off at this position.

Spears hasn't shown much to make me think that he's ever going to be much more than he has been the past couple of years. He's a guy whom we all had high hopes for because of where he was drafted, but as far as I can tell he has yet to live up to those expectations, and probably never really will.

Jay Ratliff will still be an animal in the middle, though I can't imagine he puts up the same numbers in the passing game that he did last season. 7.5 sacks is good for a DT in a 4-3, much less a NT in a 3-4 where your job is generally to just be fat and take up space. He's proven he has what it takes against the pass, now I want to see him improve against the run, this idea that he isn't big enough to play NT is pure fallacy, he just needs to work on his technique and needs to get lower. He has a tendecny to play a bit high at times and that's when he gets driven out of the play, if I were giving him advice I'd tell him to work on his hip movement, towards the end of games he tends to become somewhat "robotic" in the hips.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818958 said:
I honestly don't see much changing in the way of production on the defensive side of the line. Olshanksy is not necessarily an upgrade, but he's not a downgrade either. He is a guy who does better against the run while Canty was a better DE vs. the pass. I don't expect to see much of a drop-off at this position.

Spears hasn't shown much to make me think that he's ever going to be much more than he has been the past couple of years. He's a guy whom we all had high hopes for because of where he was drafted, but as far as I can tell he has yet to live up to those expectations, and probably never really will.

Jay Ratliff will still be an animal in the middle, though I can't imagine he puts up the same numbers in the passing game that he did last season. 7.5 sacks is good for a DT in a 4-3, much less a NT in a 3-4 where your job is generally to just be fat and take up space. He's proven he has what it takes against the pass, now I want to see him improve against the run, this idea that he isn't big enough to play NT is pure fallacy, he just needs to work on his technique and needs to get lower. He has a tendecny to play a bit high at times and that's when he gets driven out of the play, if I were giving him advice I'd tell him to work on his hip movement, towards the end of games he tends to become somewhat "robotic" in the hips.
I think Olshansky is an upgrade. He put up similar numbers with lesser players on either side of him. Him being between Ratliff and Ware is going to be huge for us. Guy is incredibly strong.
 

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Hostile;2818962 said:
I think Olshansky is an upgrade. He put up similar numbers with lesser players on either side of him. Him being between Ratliff and Ware is going to be huge for us. Guy is incredibly strong.
Since we already have the best pass rush in the game, but leave something to be desired against the run you might be right about him being an upgrade from that standpoint. But I don't see him being much of a force vs. the pass, that simply isn't his style of play; never has been, never will be. But that's not what we need out of our DE's right now. If he's an upgrade over Canty it's fractional at best.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818965 said:
Since we already have the best pass rush in the game, but leave something to be desired against the run you might be right about him being an upgrade from that standpoint. But I don't see him being much of a force vs. the pass, that simply isn't his style of play; never has been, never will be. But that's not what we need out of our DE's right now. If he's an upgrade over Canty it's fractional at best.
I'm talking about sheer strength and ability to free up Rat or Ware. I think he will prove to be noticeably better than Canty. JMO, and part of it is based upon prime of career for him vs. Early stages for Canty.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818958 said:
I honestly don't see much changing in the way of production on the defensive side of the line. Olshanksy is not necessarily an upgrade, but he's not a downgrade either. He is a guy who does better against the run while Canty was a better DE vs. the pass. I don't expect to see much of a drop-off at this position.

Spears hasn't shown much to make me think that he's ever going to be much more than he has been the past couple of years. He's a guy whom we all had high hopes for because of where he was drafted, but as far as I can tell he has yet to live up to those expectations, and probably never really will.

Jay Ratliff will still be an animal in the middle, though I can't imagine he puts up the same numbers in the passing game that he did last season. 7.5 sacks is good for a DT in a 4-3, much less a NT in a 3-4 where your job is generally to just be fat and take up space. He's proven he has what it takes against the pass, now I want to see him improve against the run, this idea that he isn't big enough to play NT is pure fallacy, he just needs to work on his technique and needs to get lower. He has a tendecny to play a bit high at times and that's when he gets driven out of the play, if I were giving him advice I'd tell him to work on his hip movement, towards the end of games he tends to become somewhat "robotic" in the hips.


I don't have much of a problem with the defense...it's the oline that worries me! Well, maybe NT.

Romo HAS to have protection if he drops back, and those big monsters up front have to kick some major butt if they run the ball. All that takes it's toll on the offensive team.

They say defense wins chamopinships..cool.

But I would like to see some kick *** big boys on offense just cream the hell out of those defenders...!

My only concern this season is the oline...
 

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5Stars;2818971 said:
I don't have much of a problem with the defense...it's the oline that worries me! Well, maybe NT.

Romo HAS to have protection if he drops back, and those big monsters up front have to kick some major butt if they run the ball. All that takes it's toll on the offensive team.

They say defense wins chamopinships..cool.

But I would like to see some kick *** big boys on offense just cream the hell out of those defenders...!

My only concern this season is the oline...
I understand where you're coming from, and your concerns with the OL are valid. But you certainly understand how a change in offensive philosophy will help our pass blocking right? That is of course assuming that we go through with the change in scheme.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818975 said:
I understand where you're coming from, and your concerns with the OL are valid. But you certainly understand how a change in offensive philosophy will help our pass blocking right? That is of course assuming that we go through with the change in scheme.


Yes...another good post.

However, the big boys need some backup, regardless if they run, pass, or be called offsides at times. The need a rest...! And, I hope the coaches have some plans to start using all the players and not wear out the starters! :mad:

In other words...I hope the coaches start trusting their players. Even the ones on special teams should get a few looks in a real game condition in their perspective positions.
 

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5Stars;2818985 said:
Yes...another good post.

However, the big boys need some backup, regardless if they run, pass, or be called offsides at times. The need a rest...! And, I hope the coaches have some plans to start using all the players and not wear out the starters! :mad:

In other words...I hope the coaches start trusting their players. Even the ones on special teams should get a few looks in a real game condition.

Co-sign.
 
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