Phillips w/out Garrett = your take?

[theogt]

Our offense was nothing special during those games either. We had 7 pts against the Eagles, 17 versus the Saints and in the loss to Seattle, we had less than 300 yards of total offense

Our offense scored more against Detroit last year than they did this year. The difference is that our defense didn't give up 39 points this year.

 

[Wood]

the offensive scoring has been much more timely this year. You can't just look at the raw stats. I don't remember so many clutch calls last year. Garrett is obviously very confident and very skilled at what he does.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Our offense scored more against Detroit last year than they did this year. The difference is that our defense didn't give up 39 points this year.

You are going to judge an entire season based on one game. We also scored more against the Giants this season than last season too

 

[WoodysGirl]

We lost 4 out of the last 5 games last season with Romo as the starter. People are forgetting that too. The Bledsoe excuse doesn't really apply. Sparano's playcalling was questionable at times. Garrett's playcalling has been solid

The question you have to ask is if Romo would make some of those ill-advised plays if the defense wasn't playing like a sieve. You take more chances cuz you know the defense can't stop them.

As for Sparano's playcalling, the question I ask is how much of it was him and how much of it was Parcells? Would he be considered as dynamic a playcaller if BP lifted the reigns? I just wonder.

 

[theogt]

the offensive scoring has been much more timely this year. You can't just look at the raw stats. I don't remember so many clutch calls last year. Garrett is obviously very confident and very skilled at what he does.

Clutch calls or clutch plays? I don't see the genius in calling a seam route for Jason Witten. Romo's throw was perfect, however.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

the offensive scoring has been much more timely this year. You can't just look at the raw stats. I don't remember so many clutch calls last year. Garrett is obviously very confident and very skilled at what he does.

What you are basically saying is the playcalling has improved this season which is one reason Garrett has done a better job.

 

[theogt]

You are going to judge an entire season based on one game. We also scored more against the Giants this season than last season too

Uhh...no. Where'd I do that?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Clutch calls or clutch plays? I don't see the genius in calling a seam route for Jason Witten. Romo's throw was perfect, however.

But he hasn't called a lot of draw plays on third down or three running plays up the middle on 1st and goal either.

 

[cowboyz]

We essentially have the same players on offense but it has been much more consistent than last year. I agree that Payton is overrated but he is a very different coach than Garrett. Payton calls a lot of trick plays and gimic formations. Coaches like that either look like geniuses or morons. Last year, Payton's gambles paid off and he looked like a genius and this year those same gambles have failed so he is looking hyped. Garrett is not that type of coach. We run a very pro-style offense but the execution and playcalling is what is noteworthy, which is why Garrett is worth the hype in my opinion.

except it's not, the oline is infinitely better than last year and romo is better as well

 

[theogt]

But he hasn't called a lot of draw plays on third down or three running plays up the middle on 1st and goal either.

Was that Sparano or Parcells?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Uhh...no. Where'd I do that?

Uh..yeah, you compared the outcome of the Detroit game this year versus last year.

 

[theogt]

Uh..yeah, you compared the outcome of the Detroit game this year versus last year.

So, what's your point?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

The question you have to ask is if Romo would make some of those ill-advised plays if the defense wasn't playing like a sieve. You take more chances cuz you know the defense can't stop them.

We were in close games this year in which our defense was playing poorly yet the playcalling on offense was still solid such as today's victory over the Lions.

As for Sparano's playcalling, the question I ask is how much of it was him and how much of it was Parcells? Would he be considered as dynamic a playcaller if BP lifted the reigns? I just wonder.

That's a good point. I really don't know the answer to that either. But Jerry Jones is an owner that is very involved with his team. He sits in on the meetings and is aware of the playcalling etc. Jerry felt a change needed to be made. I think Jerry is the type of person who is willing to give a talented coordinator a chance if he liked what he saw.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

So, what's your point?

I already made my point three posts ago. I could just as easily show how our offense scored more points against the Giants this year. Point is you can't take one game and say "See we scored more against Detroit last year and defense gave up more points so Sparano wasn't to blame and our defense just sucked" That's what you did.

 

[sbark]

I think that Sparano called a top 5 offense last year with Bledsoe manning the QB position 1/3 of the way, with Rivera instead of a pro bowl guard in Leonard Davis, with TO's fingers broken, and with an inexeperienced young QB.

and with BP pushing hard, with both feet on the brake pedal........Give Sparano this kind of green light..........probably very similar game plans

very similar aggressive play calling

especially if Jerry adds a WOW player

 

[Clove]

Garrett's been superior to the Defense all year, playing with very few 1st rounders on his side of the ball, I'd rather fire Wade and just promote Jason if it came down to it.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I still wonder about these head coaching positions that Garrett is being offered since this is his first year calling plays and before that he was a QB coach only for a short time. He's taken over an offense that finished 4th in points scored and turned it into a bigger juggernaut, although the maturity and game experience of Romo along with Owens having a healthy hand helped contribute to the offense's continued success.

So my guess is that the head coaching jobs are probably a bit lukewarm. He'll probably get a team or two that want him to be the HC, but won't pay him a great amount. With that, Jones could easily match that offer and keep him as OC.

Of course, he would have to up Phillips' pay since you don't want your OC getting paid more than your HC and I think that would be Jones' best route to take along with acknowledging to Garrett that he'll likely take over in 2010.

Whether people like it or not, the defense is improved from the Zimmer years. And if you look at Phillips' defenses that he's taken over, he's following the same path he usually does...improve the first season, plateau the second season, breakout season in year three.

But for all of the talk of Garrett, the fact is that we've got to keep the same core players around or find suitable replacements for those who leave or get injured. Garrett deserves a lot of credit, but the ability to replace the Colombo's, Owen's, and Flozell's will likely determine Dallas' future on offense.




YAKUZA

 

[theogt]

Garrett's been superior to the Defense all year, playing with very few 1st rounders on his side of the ball, I'd rather fire Wade and just promote Jason if it came down to it.

The offense was better than the defense last year too. It's not a 1-to-1 comparison. It's about how much better Garrett makes the offense vs. how much better Wade makes the defense.

Statistically, this defense has improved significantly more than the offense has improved.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

and with BP pushing hard, with both feet on the brake pedal........Give Sparano this kind of green light..........probably very similar game plans

very similar aggressive play calling

especially if Jerry adds a WOW player

I don't think the playcalling is aggressive but rather more varied. There has been more variety and less predictability in the playcalling. They are throwing on first down in the red zone which they were not doing last year. Sparano was very predictable at times. He would go with the flow. Garrett will pull back and run in the redzone when we have been having so much success passing the ball.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Statistically, this defense has improved significantly more than the offense has improved.

The Dallas defense was ranked 5th overall last season; they are ranked 8th this year. The Dallas offense was ranked 5th last season. They are ranked 2nd this year.