Philly.com: Big-game history favors McNabb

[burmafrd]

When the stakes have risen to the level of the conference championship or Super Bowl, however, McNabb's record is 1-5 and his passer rating just 72.9. His completion percentage in those games is 57.3, and he has thrown nine touchdown passes and nine interceptions. The Eagles have averaged just 18.3 points in those games.


That pretty much defines coming up small when it counts, right?

 

[Sandman52]

Geez! They are attributing the Carolina playoff loss in 2004 to Romo's record. I guess, since he was on the practice squad, that he lost that game too. :bang2:

 

[Ren]

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"It's an exciting time," says the Eagles' Donovan McNabb, 33, whose 9-6 playoff record compares favorably to the 0-3 performance of his counterpart, Tony Romo. "What better stage than to play in Dallas?"
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»BUY TICKETS"It's only a big game if you lose," Phillips said, well aware of his sarcasm. "He's won a lot of big games, and he's won a lot of big games this year. There are a lot of big games in this league, and he has won 11 of them this year."

There's truth to that statement.

John Madden, who lost five AFL or AFC championship games before finally winning a Super Bowl with the Oakland Raiders, put it like this: "You will hear people say you can't win the big one, but you have to win a lot of big ones to get to the big one."

Madden, however, also said this: "Your last game is the one you have to live with. You keep hearing that and you just learn from it. What I learned is that winning the division doesn't mean anything and winning a playoff game doesn't mean anything.

"It's winning the Super Bowl that matters. You have to remember that at the end there's only one team left standing, and all the others are thrown into the heap as losers."

This is all relevant because, 11 wins aside, the Eagles' truly big games lie ahead, beginning with Sunday's meeting against Phillips' team at Cowboys Stadium.

"It's an exciting time," McNabb said before practice yesterday. "I think it comes at a great time for us because, leading into the playoffs, we want to make sure that we are clicking on all cylinders - and what better stage than to play in Dallas against one of our top rivals and for a lot on the line?"

If the Eagles win, they claim the NFC East title and a bye week as the second seed in the conference.

Like it or not, this is the time of year when most Hall of Fame quarterbacks stamp their tickets to Canton, and right now, McNabb's bus probably would stop in Akron.

McNabb's 9-6 playoff record is superior to the 0-4 mark Phillips has compiled as a coach and the 0-3 record of Dallas quarterback Tony Romo. McNabb's postseason numbers are certainly respectable, too. He has an 80.8 passer rating, with 23 touchdowns and 16 interceptions.

You got to love the Romo hate some people have when they start adding imaginary losses to his record

 

[Skinsradiosucks]

The man said it right earlier,
Mcnabb will not get what he deserves from the media for his failures because of the "Rush Limbaugh" theory. It is correct and has been in full effect for MANY QBs in the NFL over the years.
Remember when Jeff Garcia made the big push for the Eagles to get them into the playoffs a few years back? Mcnabb would have had them sitting at home. Nobody wants to mention that. Think they wanted the public to see more of Kevin Kolb after he came in and run up impressive numbers for such an inexperienced QB? No, because they dont want people seeing they have a better QB on the roster than Mcnabb or Vick, who BOTh fall under the untouchable category with the media that Campbell and Vince Young reside under.
Vince Young had 89 yards passing against the Chargers, the only reason I knew that is because I read the stats. Let Romo play that bad against ANYONE and he would be crucified by the media and the fans. Double standards are such BS.

 

[Manster68]

When the stakes have risen to the level of the conference championship or Super Bowl, however, McNabb's record is 1-5 and his passer rating just 72.9. His completion percentage in those games is 57.3, and he has thrown nine touchdown passes and nine interceptions. The Eagles have averaged just 18.3 points in those games.


That pretty much defines coming up small when it counts, right?

Yeah, and McNabb's one Championship Game win was against whom?

A lame Atlanta team.

Many people do not realize just how weak the quality of the NFL truly is. Every year since the inception of Salary Cap, Free Agency and Expansion it has got worse and worse.

I have yet to see a single team from 1994 on that could go head to head with the 1992-1993 Cowboys. The 94 49ers had to cheat and Dallas was infected with injuries on that fateful 94 NFC Championship Game. Not to mention a gift 21-point lead and a horrendus non-call on pass interference.

Green Bay only won because Dallas and San Fran got depleted with talent.

Then Denver won after five years of Dallas, San Fran, and Green Bay getting depleted.

It has been crap ever since.

So Philadelphia's glorius decade of so-called greatness is really mired in crap.

They are the shiniest turd...... Congrats to that.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, and McNabb's one Championship Game win was against whom?

A lame Atlanta team.

Many people do not realize just how weak the quality of the NFL truly is. Every year since the inception of Salary Cap, Free Agency and Expansion it has got worse and worse.

I have yet to see a single team from 1994 on that could go head to head with the 1992-1993 Cowboys. The 94 49ers had to cheat and Dallas was infected with injuries on that fateful 94 NFC Championship Game. Not to mention a gift 21-point lead and a horrendus non-call on pass interference.

Green Bay only won because Dallas and San Fran got depleted with talent.

Then Denver won after five years of Dallas, San Fran, and Green Bay getting depleted.

It has been crap ever since.

So Philadelphia's glorius decade of so-called greatness is really mired in crap.

They are the shiniest turd...... Congrats to that.

I don't think many teams from 1994 on could go head to head with the Buffalo Bills who went to four straight Super Bowls and lost, much less Super Bowl winners. The 2007 New England Patriots wouldn't even match up well with them.

 

[tyke1doe]

Interesting. So now Romo is 0-3 as a starting QB in the playoffs despite the fact that he's only started 2 playoff games?

I guess they're just going to go ahead and assume he'll lose this year.

 

[tyke1doe]

The man said it right earlier,
Mcnabb will not get what he deserves from the media for his failures because of the "Rush Limbaugh" theory. It is correct and has been in full effect for MANY QBs in the NFL over the years.
Remember when Jeff Garcia made the big push for the Eagles to get them into the playoffs a few years back? Mcnabb would have had them sitting at home. Nobody wants to mention that. Think they wanted the public to see more of Kevin Kolb after he came in and run up impressive numbers for such an inexperienced QB? No, because they dont want people seeing they have a better QB on the roster than Mcnabb or Vick, who BOTh fall under the untouchable category with the media that Campbell and Vince Young reside under.
Vince Young had 89 yards passing against the Chargers, the only reason I knew that is because I read the stats. Let Romo play that bad against ANYONE and he would be crucified by the media and the fans. Double standards are such BS.

What are you talking about?

McNabb and Young have been heavily criticized. In fact, even as Limbaugh was uttering his idiotic statement, McNabb was being criticized for his inaccuracy and his inability to get Philly to the Super Bowl.

 

[Manster54]

Interesting. So now Romo is 0-3 as a starting QB in the playoffs despite the fact that he's only started 2 playoff games?

I guess they're just going to go ahead and assume he'll lose this year.

No, you forgot about the 2007 playoff bye.
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[Manster54]

MCuke:

 

[Don Corleone]

No...the title of the article should read: "Big Game Choking Favors McNabb"

 

[Ren]

No, you forgot about the 2007 playoff bye.
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Romo is the only QB who can lose on a bye week :laugh2:

 

[jobberone]

People will hate on McNabb for the huge game losses. The 4 CC games and the 1 SB. But he did win some big games to get them to those games. And it's more than Tony has done.

But I will say there is finally a big difference in Tony this year. He has finally learned to protect the football and still keep his playmaking abilities. What a big difference.

I'm looking for a close win Sunday. And I won't be surprised at all with Giants' and Packers' wins either.

 

[Don Corleone]

And I won't be surprised at all with Giants' and Packers' wins either.

The Pack I could see winning. IMO, the Giants have already mailed it in.

 

[tyke1doe]

McNabb has played in more playoff games. True. He has won more playoff games. True.

But he is arguably the biggest big game choker in the NFL, currently. He never gets called on it because of the Rush Limbaugh backlash... but the fact remains....

He threw a game sealing interception against the Rams in the NFC Championship.

He threw a game sealing interception against the Bucs in the NFC Championship.

He threw three interceptions against the Panthers in the NFC Championships.

He threw three interceptions against the Patriots, and litterally THREW UP on the field, with the game still in reach!

He is the only QB in NFL history to lose 4 NFC Championships.

He has a career QB rating of just 85.9, but in the playoffs, his QB rating drops to 80.1.

He has spent his entire career with the same coaching staff, in the same QB-Friendly dink and dunk WCO, and with a one of the leagues most feared defenses year in and year out. And with his division being mediocre to bad for much of his career.

And despite all of that, he has yet to deliver a Championship.

Big game quarterback, my ***.

McNabb is OVERRATED.

I find it interesting that some of the same things that you point out about McNabb, which you certainly support, are the same things said of Tony Romo. Yet, many Cowboys fans will defend him to the hilt.

Tony Romo in the playoffs, 0-2.

Tony Romo throws a last minute interception in a home playoff game against the Giants.

Tony Romo bobbles the snap that contributed to Dallas losing against Seattle in the playoffs.

And yet Tony Romo has had better weapons at receiver than McNabb and still wasn't able to win a playoff game.

Also, the criticism about Philadelphia has been that the Eagles organization has never given McNabb any weapons. Front office did get T.O., but you know how that went. Oh, and by the way, the Eagles beat the Falcons without T.O.

Please, let's leave Limbaugh's comments out of this. His comments were idiotic and anachronistic. No one is not criticizing McNabb because he's black. He gets his share of criticism.

Furthermore, the Eagles are not the Cowboys. The Cowboys get far more criticism because they are America's Team. They get far more attention too when they're winning, even if they don't get to the Super Bowl.
That's just the way it is.

Do you think any other young quarterback would have gotten the attention Romo got in his first year with ESPN/NFL Network doing a special segment on "Who is Tony Romo?" Do you think if Romo were in Philly, he would have got such attention?

Moreover, McNabb is similar to Danny White and John Elway in his early years. He's the same as Peyton Manning before he actually won a Super Bowl.

The NFL measures greatest by winning. Until Romo wins a Super Bowl, he'll be seen as a loser. Until McNabb wins a Super Bowl, he will be seen as a loser. Is it fair? No. But that's the way it is.

Oh, and as far as the article, McNabb's big-game history does favor him over Romo's. Do you dispute this?

P.S. I wouldn't call any quarterback who led his team to 5 NFC Championship Games overrated. If that's the case, then every quarterback who falls short of the Super Bowl or Super Bowl win could be considered overrated including greats like Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Drew Brees, Jim Kelly, etc.

 

[Ren]

People will hate on McNabb for the huge game losses. The 4 CC games and the 1 SB. But he did win some big games to get them to those games. And it's more than Tony has done.

But I will say there is finally a big difference in Tony this year. He has finally learned to protect the football and still keep his playmaking abilities. What a big difference.

I'm looking for a close win Sunday. And I won't be surprised at all with Giants' and Packers' wins either.

Think you're confused about who your audience is here, most of us hate him cause he's the Eagles QB. As a Cowboys fan i'm gonna say those big game chokes are the only things i actually like about him :laugh2:

 

[Idgit]

Like it or not, this is the time of year when most Hall of Fame quarterbacks stamp their tickets to Canton, and right now, McNabb's bus probably would stop in Akron.

Akron? I don't think it ever leaves Philly, does it?

 

[tyke1doe]

People will hate on McNabb for the huge game losses. The 4 CC games and the 1 SB. But he did win some big games to get them to those games. And it's more than Tony has done.

But I will say there is finally a big difference in Tony this year. He has finally learned to protect the football and still keep his playmaking abilities. What a big difference.

I'm looking for a close win Sunday. And I won't be surprised at all with Giants' and Packers' wins either.

Since when does leading your team to 5 NFC Championship game and one win constitute overrated, particularly when you've, for the most part, played with C-rated receivers and a coach who refuses to run a balanced rush-pass attack?

 

[Idgit]

Since when does leading your team to 5 NFC Championship game and one win constitute overrated, particularly when you've, for the most part, played with C-rated receivers and a coach who refuses to run a balanced rush-pass attack?

When they talk about you as a HoF candidate, it does in my book. You can be very good and still overrated. Especially when you, almost literally, choke in the fourth quarter of the biggest game of your career.

And you're nuts if you think playing for Andy Reid has been a handicap in any way for McNabb's career.

 

[mldardy]

I don't think many teams from 1994 on could go head to head with the Buffalo Bills who went to four straight Super Bowls and lost, much less Super Bowl winners. The 2007 New England Patriots wouldn't even match up well with them.

I am glad someone else feels this way. I have always said I would take those Bills, Packers, and 49ers teams we beat in the 90's over any of the Patriots teams of last decade.