PI on Claiborne?

[Picksix]

I am more PO'ed about the Hatcher blow to the head penalty. He was trying to bat the ball down, not ht the QB in the head. Sometimes incidental contact happens. It was pretty clear he wasn't intending to hit the QB. Maybe still a penalty under the letter of the rule, but sheesh; its getting rather ticky tacky out there.

They've changed the interpretation of that rule to "a forceable blow", to try to account for things like the natural momentum of the arms trying to bat a ball down, and inadvertently hitting the QB's head. But some refs are still very protective of the QB. I saw it happen in the Pitt/Chi game last night, where the DT's hand came down right in the QB's face, but there was no call.

 

[links18]

They've changed the interpretation of that rule to "a forceable blow", to try to account for things like the natural momentum of the arms trying to bat a ball down, and inadvertently hitting the QB's head. But some refs are still very protective of the QB. I saw it happen in the Pitt/Chi game last night, where the DT's hand came down right in the QB's face, but there was no call.

Really? They should have given Hatcher the benefit of the doubt on that play then. It wiped out an INT for Wilcox.

 

[Doomsday101]

Really? They should have given Hatcher the benefit of the doubt on that play then. It wiped out an INT for Wilcox.

I wish they would not have called it but Hatcher did it, not intentional but then they don't flag for intentionally doing it only. He got a pretty good whack on Bradford.

 

[FiveRings]

Was a bad call, but we got away with a push off on Dez's first touchdown, so, wash in my opinion

 

[ConstantReboot]

I think the PI call on Claiborne was BS. If thats the case they should be calling PI on whoever is watching Dez. They consistently hit him pass the 5 yard marker. Yet it seems like it incidental.

I don't get it. Teams can maul our players or get away with holding calls. Yet they call the ticky tack fouls on us. I wish that Garrett would make it an issue against the Refs during the game like every other coach that plays us.

 

[Picksix]

Really? They should have given Hatcher the benefit of the doubt on that play then. It wiped out an INT for Wilcox.

Yeah, I thought it was weak.

 

[Kevinicus]

Really? They should have given Hatcher the benefit of the doubt on that play then. It wiped out an INT for Wilcox.

It was still a forceful blow to the head. Intentional or not. Guys don't intend to grab facemasks either, but it's still a penalty to do so.

 

[links18]

It was still a forceful blow to the head. Intentional or not. Guys don't intend to grab facemasks either, but it's still a penalty to do so.

They used to make a distinction between a flagrant and a not so flagrant facemask. I don't know why its a good idea to punish accidents that come from trying to play the game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They used to make a distinction between a flagrant and a not so flagrant facemask. I don't know why its a good idea to punish accidents that come from trying to play the game.

I just think its hard to distinguish the two in real time. I have no problem with the call. A rule is a rule. It shouldn't be a rule but it is.

 

[kevm3]

They call some of the weakest pass interferences on Mo. I'm just glad he's not afraid to continue being aggressive. He's had some great knock-downs. If they are going to be consistent with this ticky-tack nonsense, then they would call it on whoever is covering Dez at least 50% of the plays. On some games, they literally have guys draped all over him and yet no call. They had to throw a late flag in on one play in one of the other games where a corner was draped on his back. They didn't want to throw the flag there, but they will when Mo is barely touching the guy he is covering. That's why I disagree with Garrett telling Claiborne to not be as aggressive.

 

[Zman5]

I thought it was a bad call. Then again, the call against the Rams defender against Twill was a bad one too. They were both ticky tack.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I thought the PI on Claiborne was suspect at best. His left arm did not seem to be really pushing the Rams WR. Also the WR was out of bounds so why was it not considered uncatchable? I sure hope Morris does not get a reputation with the referees where they are always looking at him to throw a flag.

yeah, I thought it was the second time in a row that he had a bogus PI called on him. Very suspect as his left arm did not seem to impede the WR at all

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Because you can't impede the WR to the ball

Your entitled to hold your position I thought and he was looking for the ball as it happened. His arm was already out there and its not as if he was extending it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Your entitled to hold your position I thought and he was looking for the ball as it happened. His arm was already out there and its not as if he was extending it.

I felt it was questionable sorry I just can't say every call made aginst the Cowboys is bad. It was close the ref saw it and called it.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Yeah I thought he got away with it. Actually was a lot worse than what he did last week in KC. Sometimes you get the calls, sometimes you don't. Just how it goes.

I don't see how anyone could even think pass interference happened on that call against Dez in the KC game. That was a horrible call.

After that and seeing some of the calls in the Jet's/Bills game yesterday, I can't complain about the call on Claiborne. At least they had reason to think it occured.

 

[viman96]

The WR was out of bounds. Did he go out on his own? Or did Morris force him out? Is it a penalty if the defender forces someone out of bounds in the flow of the play? I'm thinking not and if that is the case the ball was not catchable so no foul.

 

[Nova]

Was a bad call, but we got away with a push off on Dez's first touchdown, so, wash in my opinion

I disagree. I think it was a good no call because Finnegan initiated physical coverage with the ball in the air and then either flopped (which I believe he did) or he just couldn't keep his own feet. Bryant doesn't get very much extension with his arms, and he's allowed to fight throw physical coverage.

Found this really good look at it.


So at worse it should have been offsetting OPI, DPI penalties.

 

[gimmesix]

It was an outstretched arm (armbar), I don't think he pushed but it's still a penalty.

Yes, it was a good call. We've seen some suspect PI calls and noncalls, that one was by the book.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I think that it was a bad call. There were a few instances they were hitting and banging Bryant pass the 5 yard marker and it wasn't called.