Play the Saints with a vanilla playbook

nathanlt;3113493 said:
After the whuppin that the Saints put on the Patriots on Monday night, I think the Cowboys should play hard-nosed, vanilla plays against them, put some pressure on Brees, but don't do anything really unpredictable.

There's a reasonable chance that Dallas will have to play them twice, and I don't see us getting a suprise win in the regular season and then beating them again in a playoff game.

Save all your chips for the big one, play vanilla, vanilla, vanilla against them in the regular season.
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I think that is silly. They have a year of tape on us - offense and defense. We are not going to fool them by not showing our blitz packages against them - they will have seen it all year on tape and will have 2 weeks for their coaches to look at game tape and another week here soon to study us.

Execution is the key. The biggest thing that helped the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl was the confidence that they could play with them that they earned by playing them tough in the regular season!!!
 
casmith07;3113660 said:
We play the Giants this Sunday.
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Eaxactly right and I bet there is not one member of the team that is thinking about what they are going to do against the Saints.

It is not like we are even remotely threatening for a bye or homefield!
 
wayne motley;3113538 said:
"You play to WIN the Game!"

Do less and the demoralizing beat down you may incur could destroy confidence and morale which leads to no rematch anyway. You have to believe in your team if you want them to believe in you and in themselves, and you have to do everything you can to win unless it's the end of the season, you've wrapped up your spot, and you're getting guys healthy.

"You play to WIN the Game!"
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:hammer:
 
DallasDomination;3113508 said:
If We dont beat the Giants then all this vanilla crap will go out the window. If anything it should never be into consideration unless you play them in a game that doesnt mean anything and you know for a fact you will face them again in the playoffs.

Right now we're not gooing to face the Saints...If We make it we face the pack or Philly. Concentrate on those teams. If We win out and have the division on lock, then you can have this vanilla talk against the eagles.
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Right on the MONEY!!!


Lets just worry about the Giants first. After that, there is the Chargers who are on a 6 game winning streak right now as well.
 
Play the Giants and the Chargers before playing the Saints. ;)
 
nathanlt;3113554 said:
You could not be more wrong. The regular season game against the Saints is not a must win situation. Treat the Giants and Eagles games like must wins... 10 and 5 can get us in the playoffs.

It should be treated like the first half of a 120 minute game. We need to beat them at the end, not at halftime. A loss at halftime is not the worst thing.

Sean Payton (Peyton?) will make the necessary adjustments if we show them all our cards and beat them in the first 60 minutes, I guarantee it!!!!

Barring catastrophic injuries to the Saints roster, the Cowboys will not make the Super Bowl if they beat the Saints in the regular season and face them again.
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No, my friend, you are the wrong one here! Just b/c YOU don't think we have a chance against them you want them to go in half-*****? Hell, if that's the case, why even play them! Let's just forfeit and save everyone the trouble! That's not the way to handle this situation...especially against a NFC team in which we're trying to gain ground in the conference and still have a chance (albeit an outside one) to gain HFA. If you can line up against them and beat them, it won't be the element of surprise that does it...it'll be because we were physical and smacked them in the mouth!
 
Thinking we couldn't beat them twice is just ridiculous anyway. Playoff games are a totally different animal than regular season games. That's like saying we shouldn't try to sweep the giants or eagles because surely we couldn't beat them a 3rd time if needed! It's a good thing our players seem to realize that only the next game matters right now.

We could be staring a 3 game losing streak in the face going into the Superdome for all we know. Hopefully not, but looking ahead is never the answer.
 
The Saints won't be playing Vanilla against us, we shouldn't against them.
 
To beat the saints we have to have a full balance on offense in order to keep Brees off the field. At the same time when he is we have to get them off quickly. Can't give up the long 3rd downs against them.

It will take a well rounded game and outstanding play from everyone with no huge mistakes.

Anyhow, let's beat the Giants!
 
nathanlt;3113554 said:
You could not be more wrong. The regular season game against the Saints is not a must win situation. Treat the Giants and Eagles games like must wins... 10 and 5 can get us in the playoffs.
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So basically a conference game against a playoff team seeded ahead of you in the playoffs is less of a "must win" than the final game of the season that could have even less relevance? For all we know, that game against the Eagles could just as easily be as worthless as the Washington game was in 2007. But since you are all for taking the loser's way out against New Orleans, well I guess it will still have relevance.

It should be treated like the first half of a 120 minute game. We need to beat them at the end, not at halftime. A loss at halftime is not the worst thing.

Sean Payton (Peyton?) will make the necessary adjustments if we show them all our cards and beat them in the first 60 minutes, I guarantee it!!!!

Barring catastrophic injuries to the Saints roster, the Cowboys will not make the Super Bowl if they beat the Saints in the regular season and face them again.
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Again, you seem to have this idea stuck in your mind that we will most definitely play New Orleans again and should discount the first game because of that idea. You've even convinced yourself there is no way we can beat them. You even "guarantee it!!"

Thank you for the refreshing splash of a loser's mentality.
 
peplaw06;3113775 said:
The Saints won't be playing Vanilla against us, we shouldn't against them.
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You are WRONG!!

He will even hold his cards if we don't and what then? We will LOSE!

Guaranteed!!!
 
What are you talking about!?!?!?! WE have to try to beat them as every win is needed. Ridiculous idea.
 
Alexander;3113797 said:
So basically a conference game against a playoff team seeded ahead of you in the playoffs is less of a "must win" than the final game of the season that could have even less relevance? For all we know, that game against the Eagles could just as easily be as worthless as the Washington game was in 2007. But since you are all for taking the loser's way out against New Orleans, well I guess it will still have relevance.



Again, you seem to have this idea stuck in your mind that we will most definitely play New Orleans again and should discount the first game because of that idea. You've even convinced yourself there is no way we can beat them. You even "guarantee it!!"

Thank you for the refreshing splash of a loser's mentality.
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the other reason to play them hard is that confidence in your play has a lot to do with how you play. if we do beat them, we create a belief in our players that the saints are not unbeatable and the doubt in their players that they are beatable.
 
visionary;3113832 said:
the other reason to play them hard is that confidence in your play has a lot to do with how you play. if we do beat them, we create a belief in our players that the saints are not unbeatable and the doubt in their players that they are beatable.
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That is precisely what the Giants did in 2007.

If they had thought "120 minutes" where would they have been against the Patriots? Soiling their diapers over the fear they "showed too much" in the first game?
 
Did we beat the Giants and Chargers already?

Jeez, talk about sodomizing your chickens before they hatch...
 
I've uh... changed my mind.

We need to focus on winning every game and gaining confidence. A swagger, if you will.
 
BEAT the saints with a vanilla playbook!

Why do I feel like I'm the only one who believes this is doable?
 
Pound Brees on defense
Pound the rock on offense

real simple
 
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