Players vs. fans

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

Most fans seem to think that a Zeke like holdout will hurt his rep with his teammates. Not true. Most stud players, which is just about every pro player, have egos the size of Texas. They ALL want to get paid. Zeke's holdout might be hurting the fans, but fans will come crawling back as soon as he scores a TD. The team chemistry will only suffer if a teammate starts acting like a fan and not like a player.

Diehardblues · Aug 21, 2019

The players all get the business of the NFL. Too bad more fans don’t.

AsthmaField · Aug 21, 2019

Yeah, his team mates aren’t going to care about any holdout.

John813 · Aug 21, 2019

I think the only time it'll hurt his rep is if he misses the regular season.

My "proof" is the Bell saga last year. Some of his linemen weren't happy over that.

aria · Aug 21, 2019

Ranching said:
Most fans seem to think that a Zeke like holdout will hurt his rep with his teammates. Not true. Most stud players, which is just about every pro player, have egos the size of Texas. They ALL want to get paid. Zeke's holdout might be hurting the fans, but fans will come crawling back as soon as he scores a TD. The team chemistry will only suffer if a teammate starts acting like a fan and not like a player.

Not me! I’ll never like this turd.

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

AsthmaField said:
Yeah, his team mates aren’t going to care about any holdout.

The only reason they care is cuz they wanna get paid too.

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

John813 said:
I think the only time it'll hurt his rep is if he misses the regular season.

My "proof" is the Bell saga last year. Some of his linemen weren't happy over that.

I was a lineman, we're a bit sensitive. Lol!

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

aria said:
Not me! I’ll never like this turd.

Turds have feelings too, you big bully!!!!

Hennessy_King · Aug 21, 2019

Ranching said:
The only reason they care is cuz they wanna get paid too.

Big facts. Every young guy on the team is watching this very closely.

Diehardblues · Aug 21, 2019

aria said:
Not me! I’ll never like this turd.

Don’t have to like him. This isn’t a popularity contest. I couldn’t stand Michael Irvin and his criminal behavior but he was a key part in helping us win championships.

Hennessy_King · Aug 21, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Don’t have to like him. This isn’t a popularity contest. I couldn’t stand Michael Irvin and his criminal behavior but he was a key part in helping us win championships.

Fans acting like morality police is the funniest thing in all of sports.

Diehardblues · Aug 21, 2019

Hennessy_King said:
Fans acting like morality police is the funniest thing in all of sports.

Yea, if we want to bash Elliott’s personality and off field behavior. Fine. I’m all in. He has thuggish behavior. Can’t stand him.

But does he make us a better team is all that matters. The thug is a baller. It’s not personal, just business.

aikemirv · Aug 21, 2019

Ranching said:
Most fans seem to think that a Zeke like holdout will hurt his rep with his teammates. Not true. Most stud players, which is just about every pro player, have egos the size of Texas. They ALL want to get paid. Zeke's holdout might be hurting the fans, but fans will come crawling back as soon as he scores a TD. The team chemistry will only suffer if a teammate starts acting like a fan and not like a player.

Yeah, because Lebron's teams have always had great chemistry. Not all of these guys are self absorbed jocks - maybe it is 70-80% of them but the others just put up with the crap and keep their mouth shut to not make waves!

acr731 · Aug 21, 2019

Ranching said:
Most fans seem to think that a Zeke like holdout will hurt his rep with his teammates. Not true. Most stud players, which is just about every pro player, have egos the size of Texas. They ALL want to get paid. Zeke's holdout might be hurting the fans, but fans will come crawling back as soon as he scores a TD. The team chemistry will only suffer if a teammate starts acting like a fan and not like a player.

Meh... I don't have that kind of emotional attachment to professional sports. I did when I was younger, though. The athletes in the NFL (and professional sports in general) who truly care about winning are in a very small minority these days. Tom Brady is one of them. The problem in Dallas is that they don't have anyone on the roster who desires to win as much as the Brady types. Witten might be the closest. Dak and Zeke, to me, are only interested in the next big pay day.

I can't remember the last time anyone on the Cowboys roster was truly upset or angry after a loss.

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
Yeah, because Lebron's teams have always had great chemistry. Not all of these guys are self absorbed jocks - maybe it is 70-80% of them but the others just put up with the crap and keep their mouth shut to not make waves!

70-80% is most. Thanks for proving my argument!!!!! Lol!!!!!!!!!!!

Hennessy_King · Aug 21, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Yea, if we want to bash Elliott’s personality and off field behavior. Fine. I’m all in. He has thuggish behavior. Can’t stand him.

But does he make us a better team is all that matters. It’s not personal, just business.

Thuggish behavior? For a guy that's never been in jail that's a pretty stupid statement.

aikemirv · Aug 21, 2019

Product vs consumers - they better figure that out before they damage the product and no one wants to consume it anymore!

Ranching · Aug 21, 2019

acr731 said:
Meh... I don't have that kind of emotional attachment to professional sports. I did when I was younger, though. The athletes in the NFL (and professional sports in general) who truly care about winning are in a very small minority these days. Tom Brady is one of them. The problem in Dallas is that they don't have anyone on the roster who desires to win as much as the Brady types. Witten might be the closest. Dak and Zeke, to me, are only interested in the next big pay day.

Do you think Brady would have wanted more money if he had married a school teacher and not a supermodel?

aikemirv · Aug 21, 2019

Ranching said:
70-80% is most. Thanks for proving my argument!!!!! Lol!!!!!!!!!!!

So is 70-80% the team? I am pretty sure that diva TO had a big effect on every team he played on

Diehardblues · Aug 21, 2019

acr731 said:
Meh... I don't have that kind of emotional attachment to professional sports. I did when I was younger, though. The athletes in the NFL (and professional sports in general) who truly care about winning are in a very small minority these days. Tom Brady is one of them. The problem in Dallas is that they don't have anyone on the roster who desires to win as much as the Brady types. Witten might be the closest. Dak and Zeke, to me, are only interested in the next big pay day.

Thank goodness we have the Brady example . Lol

The rest of the league is basically serving their self interest just like ownership.

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