Playing Basketball With Ballhogs

trickblue;4679951 said:
Hypocritical?

You need to reread what I said... didn't say that at all...

I said that the goal, especially in that era, was to get it to your big man for a short basket. When shots were taken outside he would rebound and then put it right back in...

Not sure how I was being hypocritical... :huh:
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The idea that it's okay to have your best player (in that case a big man) take a lot of shots because "that's what was done in that era" (which isn't even true, btw) and not okay for your best player to take a lot of shots today, because that's selfish.
 
The 90s Bulls and the post Shaq Lakers have all played with ball hogs....the two biggest in NBA History.....Air Chucker and Mamba Chucker
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4681137 said:
Almost finished with my workout. About to play with these ball hogging clowns.
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maybe they didnt pass you the ball cause you shoot like Ben Stiller's friend from Along Came Polly.
 
TheCount;4681084 said:
The idea that it's okay to have your best player (in that case a big man) take a lot of shots because "that's what was done in that era" (which isn't even true, btw) and not okay for your best player to take a lot of shots today, because that's selfish.
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Basketball is a different animal today...

It used to be you work the ball in to get the closest shot... and if you had Wilt in the paint, you got it to him as he is the most dominant force in NBA history...

Not sure what your angle is here, but the game is different these days...

The three point shot (which I happen to like), changed the norm...

I lived through the golden era of the Walt Frazier, John Havlicek, Bob Cousy, Bill Russell and the game was much more strategy as opposed to highlights...

Gasol was a BEAST in the Olympics, yet he can't get the ball with the Lakers... because they are full of ball hogs...
 
Biggems;4681191 said:
The 90s Bulls and the post Shaq Lakers have all played with ball hogs....the two biggest in NBA History.....Air Chucker and Mamba Chucker
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Yeah that's why those guys combined for double digit rings. :rolleyes:
 
trickblue;4681232 said:
Basketball is a different animal today...

It used to be you work the ball in to get the closest shot... and if you had Wilt in the paint, you got it to him as he is the most dominant force in NBA history...

Not sure what your angle is here, but the game is different these days...

The three point shot (which I happen to like), changed the norm...

I lived through the golden era of the Walt Frazier, John Havlicek, Bob Cousy, Bill Russell and the game was much more strategy as opposed to highlights...

Gasol was a BEAST in the Olympics, yet he can't get the ball with the Lakers... because they are full of ball hogs...
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My angle is that you're speaking in generalities that aren't true. The game has never been "work the ball in to get the closest shot". The game has been to have your best players score and everyone else play roles. If a big man happens to be your best guy, then of course you feed him. What coach is going to tell his guards to just keep chucking it when they have a dominant offensive big man?

Gasol can't get the ball? The only person that takes more shots than Gasol on the Lakers is Kobe. Who I'm assuming you are targeting with that "ballhogs" comment.

And if you have a problem with Kobe taking more shots than Gasol, then you just have a vendetta against the guy.

The year before, in the full year, Gasol took 1120 shots. That's the 2nd most shots he's ever taken in any single season his entire career. Gasol get's the ball plenty and he takes (and makes) plenty of shots.

You may have lived through the "golden era", and everyone is entitled to their opinion on when that era is (For me, the golden era is the 80's and 90's) but the idea that the game is somehow worse today because it's full of selfish athletes (which you claimed originally) is completely and utterly without merit. That's my angle.
 
TheCount;4681274 said:
My angle is that you're speaking in generalities that aren't true. The game has never been "work the ball in to get the closest shot". The game has been to have your best players score and everyone else play roles. If a big man happens to be your best guy, then of course you feed him. What coach is going to tell his guards to just keep chucking it when they have a dominant offensive big man?
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Playing the game for almost 50 years, you are wrong on this one. You can't take the game today and relate it back to what it once was. We won state in '80 and our strategy was to work it in to our big guys...

TheCount;4681274 said:
Gasol can't get the ball? The only person that takes more shots than Gasol on the Lakers is Kobe. Who I'm assuming you are targeting with that "ballhogs" comment.
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Gasol is a feature player... he takes shots... but Kobe is king...

TheCount;4681274 said:
And if you have a problem with Kobe taking more shots than Gasol, then you just have a vendetta against the guy.
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I don't have a problem with Kobe per se... not sure of vendetta comment...

TheCount;4681274 said:
The year before, in the full year, Gasol took 1120 shots. That's the 2nd most shots he's ever taken in any single season his entire career. Gasol get's the ball plenty and he takes (and makes) plenty of shots.
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When he gets a chance...

TheCount;4681274 said:
You may have lived through the "golden era", and everyone is entitled to their opinion on when that era is (For me, the golden era is the 80's and 90's) but the idea that the game is somehow worse today because it's full of selfish athletes (which you claimed originally) is completely and utterly without merit. That's my angle.
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Still not sure of you... you attack my stance on many occasions...

I have an opinion... you do too... just stop prefacing it with "With all due respect" because you don't respect me... "bunk' proves that...

I am perfectly willing to engage you in discussion, but you constantly resort to backhanded insults...

What gives? I actually like vampire shows...

Do you want to discuss things on a friendly level, or do you want to continue to dish out backhanded insults? Not sure of your issue's with me, but you have certainly taken shots at me recently...

I really don't care, not sure what I have done to warrant this, but I can fend for myself, but you have been going out of your way to challenge me...
 
trickblue;4681286 said:
Playing the game for almost 50 years, you are wrong on this one. You can't take the game today and relate it back to what it once was. We won state in '80 and our strategy was to work it in to our big guys...



Gasol is a feature player... he takes shots... but Kobe is king...



I don't have a problem with Kobe per se... not sure of vendetta comment...



When he gets a chance...



Still not sure of you... you attack my stance on many occasions...

I have an opinion... you do too... just stop prefacing it with "With all due respect" because you don't respect me... "bunk' proves that...

I am perfectly willing to engage you in discussion, but you constantly resort to backhanded insults...

What gives? I actually like vampire shows...

Do you want to discuss things on a friendly level, or do you want to continue to dish out backhanded insults? Not sure of your issue's with me, but you have certainly taken shots at me recently...

I really don't care, not sure what I have done to warrant this, but I can fend for myself, but you have been going out of your way to challenge me...
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I've got no problem with you. I have a problem with the whole "athletes in my day were team players and athletes today are selfish" generality you threw out there.

It's a thing a lot of people from older generations like to say about the newer generation. Everyone thinks they grew up in the best era and young people have no idea what they're doing. I'm sure your parents told you the exact same thing.

I haven't taken any personal attacks btw, not sure where you're getting insults from. If I were to want to insult someone, there'd be no doubt about it. I'm not subtle when it comes to people I dislike. I don't dislike you, and when I say I respect someone, I mean it. It's not a word I throw around.
 
Played today. Played against this obnoxious HS kid. He was draining three's on my team and then I guarded him and I shut his *** down. He only made like one shot after I switched on him. I'm not very quick, but I've got great length. It's very hard to score on me when I actually try to play defense.

Offensively they had no one who could guard me. The little punk got mad because the guy who was defending me was getting torched, but he just couldn't guard me. I was just too big and too good. It's not that he didn't try. Then this little punk tries to guard me and I schooled him too. Then he claimed I traveled I was like seriously dude? First off its a ****ing pickup game and second you traveled too. I seriously wanted to punch the dude, but we beat them and I was happy. I burnt my fingers badly so it hurt every time I shot or moved my fingers at all, but I sucked it up and just played basketball.

I know I sound cocky here, but I'm a terrific basketball player. When I get the ball I'm unguardable/unstoppable.
 
Hoofbite;4679561 said:
The issue is it's a social event not the Olympics. It's a drinking league. They supply kegs for the tournament. This is not a professional kickball league where a small fraction of the league drinks. It's a drinking league where from what I have seen, all teams drink except for this one.

The league has one night out of the week where everyone plays with a cup in hand at all times. Fielding and running the bases, cup in hand. If you get to second, your cup is refilled.

They're sponsored by local bars and after games a good number of the teams head to the closest sponsor bar for dinner and drinks.

People are out there to have a good time. Nobody signed up expecting to play against Randy Johnson and the butch chick who's closing the game out.

Sure, they're entitled to have a good time too. I agree, they're committing time and paying for the team T-shirt. But how about not trying to see if you can enforce the mercy rule every week by kicking until sunset.
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Fair enough but I don't know how anyone could possibly get into any league, even one like this one, and not expect some team to be all about winning.

It's obviously a competition because if it wasn't they wouldn't keep score. As long as there's a competition theres always going to be people who only care about one thing...winning that competition.


The only thing I could see anyone doing is simply refusing to play them. If all the other teams simply refuse to play that particular team then they'll either quit and go find another league or they'll waste money joining a league that they never actually get to play the games in.
 
I scored 44 in a high school game once. Ball Hog for sure that day.:D

Played pickup with TO about 6 years ago. He was dunking all over the place, but his outside shot was ghastly (maybe it was just that day after lifting).

Useless trivia, I know.:eek::
 
So I went to play again today and I heard someone say basketball isn't a man's sports and I looked at him and said basketball isn't a man's sport? Then he looked at me and backtracked. :laugh2:
 
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