Please stop bashing our starting QB

[sjordan6]

Damn...I also wanted my post on page one. Stautner you are so so def! Ebonically speaking, you rock! What a stupid and pathetic thread. We like Romo because he has given us reason to like him. And for the record I really can't recall fans falling in love with Henson...we just couldnt take vinny anymore.

Actually I would have like to see Romo in that Thanksgiving game instead of henson.

Deadslow is not the answer and BP is playing him now because that's his boy and he is the veteran. He stayed with Vinny and he will stay with Drew.

But to throw Romo under the bus just because he hasnt play is just sooo unamerican. You don't know until he is given the chance. Bledsoe deserves all the blame he receives because he has shown that his skills are null and void.

His arm old. He play with cement shoes. His accuracy is like Stevie Wonder trying to shoot hoops. He sucks and we all know it!

Romo for Congress. President. and Starting QB!

Changes that will surely benefit America (Team)!

 

[Maikeru-sama]

And for the record I really can't recall fans falling in love with Henson...we just couldnt take vinny anymore.

I do.

The day he was signed, there was a poster who made a signature with Aikman on one side and Henson on the other .

- Mike G.

 

[Jake0]

You seem to just try to compare this situation to years past when this is so COMPLETELY different than the previous.

Back before there were WAY too many unproven players on the team's offense. Look at all the players on the offense that are developed or already proven now, Julius, Witten, 3 Receivers, and MBIII to a lesser extent. The only shakey part has been the OLine for the most part. The defense has been good other than the Philly game where Watkins couldn't handle the big stage. Romo also has many years in the office and holding a clipboard, he is much more seasoned than any rookie, you can't really say he's the same exact thing as a rookie coming out of college when he's been on the sidelines for so long and had as much preseason experience as he had.

So other than Watkins giving up deep balls.. what weakness does this team have? 2 major things only, OLine (who have been playing surprisingly well and above expectations) and Bledsoe. The reason why everyone is crying for a QB change now and why it won't ruin the season by itself is pretty freakin simple. The team is damn near complete in every other aspect of the game, they just need a QB who can do 2 things --> 1) Avoid/beat blitzes when teams go all out on the oline and 2) not turn the ball over. The rest of the team can carry the QB to victory if he doesn't do that.

Bledsoe has not really done either and this ENTIRE team can be beaten because the game revolves around the quarterback and if he coughs it up, the talent around him cannot really pick up his slack. You blitz bledsoe and rush him into bad decisions, sacks, turnovers giving the other team field position near the red zone. So if Bledsoe is already getting blitzed to **** and is turning the ball over a ****load of times, HOW MUCH WORSE CAN ROMO MAKE THIS TEAM? HE CAN'T! Bledsoe is already rock bottom.

The team in every position around the quarterback is above average or great, they can lift a new quarterback and make him great just by their talent alone. If Romo can help avoid or beat blitzes with good decision making/mobility, it is damn near impossible to do worse than what Bledsoe is doing for us now.

Show me a game where Bledsoe wins DESPITE being pressured constantly and beating the blitzers with quick decisions and I'll say he's good to go to lead this team. I most certainly have not seen that at any point this season and his history doesn't really help him out there either.

The only reason I think Bill is still playing Bledsoe now is cause this is probably his last shot and if Bledsoe can somehow lead this team to a superbowl, it will give him a shot at the Hall of Fame or something, his numbers throughout the course of his career are pretty good... but he has no big game victories to push him toward being a HoFer.

Playing Romo now is not really taking a chance to me at all, with Romo in there at worst, the team stays on the same level as with Bledsoe... 3 turnovers in big games causing us to lose by a narrow margin. The rest of the team is too good to make it any worse than that. Really only one way to go and that's up.

 

[The30YardSlant]

No matter how often you call a turd a rose, it doesnt change the fact that it is still a turd

 

[Hostile]

I do.

The day he was signed, there was a poster who made a signature with Aikman on one side and Henson on the other .

- Mike G.

Man, it was a cool picture. Why do people obsess over that so much? Please be honest with me Mick.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Man, it was a cool picture. Why do people obsess over that so much? Please be honest with me Mick.

Im not obsessing over it, I believe it is my first time posting about it.

I just wanted to point out, that indeeeed there were folks falling head over heels for the guy, just like some did for Quincy, Hutch and if you can believe it, Vinny.

- Mike G.

 

[raichledog]

I understand that every fan has an opinion, but this is just getting ridiculous. We have a 3-2 record and could very well be in the drivers seat in the NFC Beast after the next 3 weeks.....And of all the things to derive promise or hope from, more than half of the fan base is waiting for Bledsoe to get the hook, so we can mortgage the season with a virtual unkown in Tony Romo? Yes the same guy that nobody cared about when the other 'savior' Drew Henson was on the roster. I'm sick and tired about hearing about how 'mobile' Romo is...big deal so without any blocking up front either he can buy an extra second to still get sacked or make a game killing play?

Some of you 'fans' are so Naive and gullible. It makes me laugh to know that if Tony Romo didn't have such extensive playing time in the pre season than there wouldn't even be an argument going on right now. But everyone saw him do these "amazing" things against no pass rush, vanilla defenses, and scrubs that are now pumping gas and flipping burgers and this becomes enough to crown him our savior. Ironically this is basically from the same group of fans that rode Henson's Jock straight to the unemployment line. Newsflash: Remember Danny Wuerfel, his numbers were astronomical and he was a bigger preseason legend than Romo....where is he now I ask?

Why does it seem that cowboy fans are so out of touch with the reality of the NFL. There are some very intelligent fans on this board but its pathetic to see a once-proud cowboy nation get excited in thier pants everytime this team acquires a quarterback via trade or draft. From guys like Anthony Wright Clint Stoernor and Chad Hutchinson to the era of Drew Henson Tony Romo and Jeff Mroz, u almost always see a post with some "hopeful" cowboy fan talking about how special these guys can be, and comparing em to the likes of Kurt Warner Jake Delhomme and Trent Green, trying to convince themselves that the common every day undrafted free agent has what it takes to be the next "guy outta nowhere"....anything to get rid of 'the most overrated QB of all time' despite his gaudy resume and HOF numbers.

Just before pre season there was talk about how great the boys would be this year, and how Well Bledsoe Will play. Some of you guys predicted 30+ TDs, others said 3,800 yards, and now after 2 poor outtings against pass rushes that our O line simply couldn't block ( i'm no rocket scientist, but maybe that was the reason he got sacked) you guys are ready to send him to the pine because unlike last season, you've watched the back up QB play.

So to all you cowboys fans that are blowing this entire situation out of proportion, and are being too stubborn or too lazy to realize that the issues with this team lie far beyond the Quarterback position, i say to you legions of mindless cowboys fans OH WELL. IF BP wants to make a change he will, and if he doesn't want to then u guys gotta deal with it and stop wasting your time posting in "bench bledsoe" threads. Parcells is one of the greatest coaching minds in any professional sport and if he thought Tony Romo could walk on water than believe Bledsoe would be history by now. Please realize how greatful we are to have a capable veteran like Bledsoe and just let the Romo hype die....next year I'm all for an 'open' competition in camp and seeing who emerges as the better man, but 2006 is Bledsoe's show.

:starspin :starspin :starspin

Aren't you the same guy who was bashing our starting OLB yesterday?

 

[Hostile]

Im not obsessing over it, I believe it is my first time posting about it.

I just wanted to point out, that indeeeed there were folks falling head over heels for the guy, just like some did for Quincy, Hutch and if you can believe it, Vinny.

- Mike G.

People fall head over heels for guys in the Draft too. So the hell what?

It was a photoshopped picture, not a proclamation to the world.

 

[5Stars]

Im not obsessing over it, I believe it is my first time posting about it.

I just wanted to point out, that indeeeed there were folks falling head over heels for the guy, just like some did for Quincy, Hutch and if you can believe it, Vinny.

- Mike G.

So, what is wrong with that? That's what fans that have "hope" do...!

Each of those QB's you mentioned, I was also excited about them...now, when they actually played, then you can change your mind, but, every new player that comes to the Cowboys you should naturally "hope" they do good!

That is, unless you can see into the future?

 

[Stautner]

Damn...I also wanted my post on page one. Stautner you are so so def! Ebonically speaking, you rock! What a stupid and pathetic thread. We like Romo because he has given us reason to like him. And for the record I really can't recall fans falling in love with Henson...we just couldnt take vinny anymore.

Actually I would have like to see Romo in that Thanksgiving game instead of henson.

Deadslow is not the answer and BP is playing him now because that's his boy and he is the veteran. He stayed with Vinny and he will stay with Drew.

But to throw Romo under the bus just because he hasnt play is just sooo unamerican. You don't know until he is given the chance. Bledsoe deserves all the blame he receives because he has shown that his skills are null and void.

His arm old. He play with cement shoes. His accuracy is like Stevie Wonder trying to shoot hoops. He sucks and we all know it!

Romo for Congress. President. and Starting QB!

Changes that will surely benefit America (Team)!

I'm not sure I've ever received an Ebonic compliment - thanks.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

People fall head over heels for guys in the Draft too. So the hell what?

It was a photoshopped picture, not a proclamation to the world.

I have no issue with the Picture, just thought it was interesting.

But the point was:

Poster A said, "I really can't recall fans falling in love with Henson"

Poster B (Me) said, "Yeah, there was some people doing that and sited an example of that".

Poster C (You) said, "People fall head over heels for guys in the Draft too".

So the point of this wasn't whether or not the said Photoshoped image of Aikman and Henson was trivial but rather were there people that fell in love with the guy.

And that answer is yes.

- Mike G.

 

[Hostile]

I have no issue with the Picture, just thought it was interesting.

But the point was:

Poster A said, "I really can't recall fans falling in love with Henson"

Poster B (Me) said, "Yeah, there was some people doing that and sited an example of that".

Poster C (You) said, "People fall head over heels for guys in the Draft too".

So the point of this wasn't whether or not the said Photoshoped image of Aikman and Henson was trivial but rather were there people that fell in love with the guy.

And that answer is yes.

- Mike G.

Fair enough Mick. I just don't see that picture as "love." I've had sigs of Q too and I'm told I hated the guy.

It's really just a picture. Nothing more. I'm asking because that pic was most decidely mine as Charles can never stop pointing out. I didn't make it. JDNalls (I miss him around here) found it and I asked if I could use it. It never ceases to amaze me that 2 1/2 years later people still bring it up.

I don't get it.

 

[StarAmongStars]

Aren't you the same guy who was bashing our starting OLB yesterday?

Don't try and spin it or change the subject......I simply stated that Deware isn't as good of an overall athlete as Merriman and stand by that. Doesn't mean that I don't like him, but I would have made a different pick on draft day...

I do however bash busty carpenter because he's not a starter or back up calibur player and a waste of roster space.

 

[StarAmongStars]

The thing that's laughable is that you don't seem to realize that before almost every starting QB in NFL history got their first start, INCLUDING MANY ALL-TIME GREATS, they too had only received playing time in the preseason against "vanilla defenses" and "scrubs that are now pumping gas and flipping burgers".

Few QB's, especially in the last 10-15 years, have an apprenticeship where they get any real playing time in the regular season before they are thrown in the fire with their first start.

In fact, most QB's get their first start with much less of an apprenticeship than Romo has had. Few backups get as much playing time in the preseason as Romo has had the last 2 years.

As for preseason, I accept that their is no way to argue that it fully prepares a QB for starting in the regular season. Defenses can be plain vanilla, and a fair amount of the competition can be 2nd and 3rd teamers, or players who won't even make a team.

However, Romo has performed admirably in EVERY preseason game in 2 years - not a dud in the bunch. If he didn't have talent don't you think it would have shown up at least once in 8 games?

By the way, that "vanilla defenses" and "scrubs that are now pumping gas and flipping burgers" line works both ways - he wasn't just playing AGAINST them, he was playing WITH them (except vanilla offense).

Now, keep in mind that I'm not saying Romo will be a stud, but I am saying that your arguments are weak.

There's nothing that Romo has done that warrants starting on a playoff calibur team over a proven veteran....Bledsoe looked great in the preseason as well against starters....and look at what has happened so far in two tough games that matter.....you honestly think Romo would have gone into hostile environments like jax and philly and did any better? Get a clue!

Just like how Henson was 'lighting it up' in NFLE....that really propelled his career to great things didn't it? :laugh1:

 

[Cochese]

Don't try and spin it or change the subject......I simply stated that Deware isn't as good of an overall athlete as Merriman and stand by that. Doesn't mean that I don't like him, but I would have made a different pick on draft day...

I do however bash busty carpenter because he's not a starter or back up calibur player and a waste of roster space.

If you are allowed to bash a player on the roster, why arent we allowed to bash a player on the roster?

 

[StarAmongStars]

Please stop bashing our future starting QB

There's no evidence of that sorry....he is signed through 2007, same as Bledsoe and if we make a deep run or win it all this year he might as well lobby for a trade or be content watching Bledsoe for another year.

 

[Hostile]

There's no evidence of that sorry....he is signed through 2007, same as Bledsoe and if we make a deep run or win it all this year he might as well lobby for a trade or be content watching Bledsoe for another year.

The bottom line that people are pointing out to you is that you preach a double standard.

It'll never fly in a free speech society. You're wasting your time.

 

[cowboyed]

Ok, this debate should be resolved come Monday. If Drew implodes for the third time against a good team even his most ardent supporters should come to terms with whether Drew will be an asset or liability this season.

 

[harkm]

There's nothing that Romo has done that warrants starting on a playoff calibur team over a proven veteran....Bledsoe looked great in the preseason as well against starters....and look at what has happened so far in two tough games that matter.....you honestly think Romo would have gone into hostile environments like jax and philly and did any better? Get a clue!

Just like how Henson was 'lighting it up' in NFLE....that really propelled his career to great things didn't it? :laugh1:

This is the part where you are sadly mistaken. Ok, I guess this team is a "playoff calibur" team but barely so. It's gonna hurt when Bledsoe goes on the road in the first round and gets killed and has 3 intentional grounding penalties. But the most painful revelation is that Parcells will have to start with Romo next year anyway. So Romo's growing pains will be next season and not this season.

 

[Bleu Star]

I agree 0 percent.

I agree with your agreement.