Please stop with all these formulas to win SB

[Q_the_man]

Defense win championships. Denver won the SB with Defense or this and that, so let's go get a Defense like theirs. Question? How many teams have a Miller, Ware, Talib, Jackson and so forth.

Here is something to think about.

I cant go back in duplicate every SB winner, I can but I'm not.

Every SB winner had their own identity, most SB winners normally have a good to great defense but to win you have to have your own identity and that special player or 2.

For example
Do the Rams sniff a SB w/o Kurt Warner- NO
Take Franco Harris or Lynn Swan away from the Steelers do they win- NO
Take Tom Brady away from the Pats, do they sniff 1 SB appearance- NO
Take Peyton away from Indy, do they sniff a SB- NO
Drew Brees- NO
Walter Payton- NO
Ray Lewis- NO
LT- NO

We could have had the #1 Defense last season but w/o Romo we still 6-10 with the #1 D

Super Bowls are built from a team aspect and yes you do need a pass rush, a good Defense but you also need intangibles to win. Last year we were 1 fumble away from the NFC championship with a starting D of:

Brandon Carr, Church, Scandrick, Wilcox, Lee, McClain and a bunch of nobodies on D. Those are the same players we had this year but instead of 12-4 we were 4-12. Why? Romo got hurt!

What is the purpose of this post? Nothing but to just try in improve at your worst position and move on. If you guys don't believe me, just go back and search the last 50 SB winners. Most had good defense(minus the Rams) but without that special player or 2, you don't go nowhere.

 

[mrmojo]

Taking Franco or Swann away Steelers still win SBs....defense was tremendous plus offense had great depth.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Defense win championships. Denver won the SB with Defense or this and that, so let's go get a Defense like theirs. Question? How many teams have a Miller, Ware, Talib, Jackson and so forth.

Here is something to think about.

I cant go back in duplicate every SB winner, I can but I'm not.

Every SB winner had their own identity, most SB winners normally have a good to great defense but to win you have to have your own identity and that special player or 2.

For example
Do the Rams sniff a SB w/o Kurt Warner- NO
Take Franco Harris or Lynn Swan away from the Steelers do they win- NO
Take Tom Brady away from the Pats, do they sniff 1 SB appearance- NO
Take Peyton away from Indy, do they sniff a SB- NO
Drew Brees- NO
Walter Payton- NO
Ray Lewis- NO
LT- NO

We could have had the #1 Defense last season but w/o Romo we still 6-10 with the #1 D

Super Bowls are built from a team aspect and yes you do need a pass rush, a good Defense but you also need intangibles to win. Last year we was 1 fumble away from the NFC championship with a starting D of:

Brandon Carr, Church, Scandrick, Wilcox, Lee, McClain and a bunch of nobodies on D. Those are the same players we had this year but instead of 12-4 we were 4-12. Why? Romo got hurt!

What is the purpose of this post? Nothing but to just try in improve at your worst position and move on. If you guys don't believe me, just go back and search the last 50 SB winners. Most had good defense(minus the Rams) but without that special player or 2, you don't go nowhere.

Good post

We also lost the offensive player of the year, and an 1800 yard rusher and didnt adequately replace him. With him our identity. I think we would have been a PO team with Romo and Bryant all year, but I dont think we would have been as good as 2014. Our identity was physical ball football and we lost it.

 

[Q_the_man]

Taking Franco or Swann away Steelers still win SBs....defense was tremendous plus offense had great depth.

If Swan doesn't make that hail Mary Catch do they go- NO
Franco Harris immaculate reception, What if Jackie Smith does not drop TD in the Endzone- we win... we lost by 4 points both times to the Steelers.

 

[Q_the_man]

Good post

We also lost the offensive player of the year, and an 1800 yard rusher and didnt adequately replace him. With him our identity. I think we would have been a PO team with Romo and Bryant all year, but I dont think we would have been as good as 2014. Our identity was physical ball football and we lost it.

Had nothing to do with our Defense.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Balance wins championships even the Ravens in 2000 needed Flacco
and special teams in order to win it all

 

[AdamJT13]

Most had good defense(minus the Rams)

Minus the Rams? The Rams had the No. 4 overall defense that year in points allowed and yards allowed ... No. 2 in passer rating allowed, No. 1 in sacks, No. 2 in interceptions.

There have been plenty of other defenses that were much worse when they won the Super Bowl.

 

[Q_the_man]

Balance wins championships even the Ravens in 2000 needed Flacco
and special teams in order to win it all

In 2000 the Ravens had Dilfer.

But take one player away from that Defense, either Ray or Reed and they don't go...

Most times most teams are 1 special player away. Carolina don't sniff 15-1 without Cam. More like 6-10

 

[darthseinfeld]

Had nothing to do with our Defense.

Hard to judge 2014 defense VS 2015. 2014's was hidden by an offense that dominated TOP. 2015's was consistently hung out to try by the offense. 2015's was probably better as it had better talent but it wasnt good enough to win games in the absence of a competent offense

 

[Q_the_man]

Minus the Rams? The Rams had the No. 4 overall defense that year in points allowed and yards allowed ... No. 2 in passer rating allowed, No. 1 in sacks, No. 2 in interceptions.

There have been plenty of other defenses that were much worse when they won the Super Bowl.

Come on Adam the Rams didn't even have a FG kicker for like 5 games. That offense was putting up dang near 40 points a game, most teams had to score to much and they couldn't. The Rams were taking every team out their comfort zone and forcing them to score because if not the Rams would have score 60

 

[darthseinfeld]

Minus the Rams? The Rams had the No. 4 overall defense that year in points allowed and yards allowed ... No. 2 in passer rating allowed, No. 1 in sacks, No. 2 in interceptions.

There have been plenty of other defenses that were much worse when they won the Super Bowl.

That defense was very underrated. They did that despite teams playing aggressive because they were behind by a mile.

Ive never seen a team come out of nowhere and dominate like that team did

 

[Q_the_man]

Hard to judge 2014 defense VS 2015. 2014's was hidden by an offense that dominated TOP. 2015's was consistently hung out to try by the offense. 2015's was probably better as it had better talent but it wasnt good enough to win games in the absence of a competent offense

Exactly..

Question- Do the Colts, Pats, Cowboys of the 70's or 90's win without their QB?

What if we had Jason Garrett instead of Aikman, lol.

 

[CCBoy]

Defense win championships. Denver won the SB with Defense or this and that, so let's go get a Defense like theirs. Question? How many teams have a Miller, Ware, Talib, Jackson and so forth.

Here is something to think about.

I cant go back in duplicate every SB winner, I can but I'm not.

Every SB winner had their own identity, most SB winners normally have a good to great defense but to win you have to have your own identity and that special player or 2.

For example
Do the Rams sniff a SB w/o Kurt Warner- NO
Take Franco Harris or Lynn Swan away from the Steelers do they win- NO
Take Tom Brady away from the Pats, do they sniff 1 SB appearance- NO
Take Peyton away from Indy, do they sniff a SB- NO
Drew Brees- NO
Walter Payton- NO
Ray Lewis- NO
LT- NO

We could have had the #1 Defense last season but w/o Romo we still 6-10 with the #1 D

Super Bowls are built from a team aspect and yes you do need a pass rush, a good Defense but you also need intangibles to win. Last year we were 1 fumble away from the NFC championship with a starting D of:

Brandon Carr, Church, Scandrick, Wilcox, Lee, McClain and a bunch of nobodies on D. Those are the same players we had this year but instead of 12-4 we were 4-12. Why? Romo got hurt!

What is the purpose of this post? Nothing but to just try in improve at your worst position and move on. If you guys don't believe me, just go back and search the last 50 SB winners. Most had good defense(minus the Rams) but without that special player or 2, you don't go nowhere.

One has to lay a full spectrum of circumstances, tendencies, principals, and analysis through the developmental periods of a single season. Not everyone plugs into the very same reference system that you presently operate within. You probably won't own up to the ascribed references provided, even above...in a year's time.

Some of us have taken that same walk, many, many times before with these same Cowboys. Myself, from their start in 1960. I love them, warts and all.

No, I don't acquiesce to criminal actions nor fan belligernece in deference. I still believe in a good example for our youth, ethics, integrity, and a basic good in the sport from our Cowboys.

But directions inquired into, is what the off season is all about. From those queries, standards are set and comparative and yea, statistical analysis is set. It gives a comparative view for individual, season, and playoff analysis. And yes, even provides a solid base for a valid after action analysis and view.

This is what a good Cowboys board is about. It is a venue to come back and enjoy an exchange with other posters. Not venting, harassments, and venting one's own emotions towards another's views. Group insult is not a real part of sport, or discussion. This is supposed to be fun. As are our Cowboys.

 

[Q_the_man]

All I'm saying is just improve at the all positions that will have impact for years and use FA for that 1 missing piece.

 

[Q_the_man]

One has to lay a full spectrum of circumstances, tendencies, principals, and analysis through the developmental periods of a single season. Not everyone plugs into the very same reference system that you presently operate within. You probably won't own up to the ascribed references provided, even above...in a year's time.

Some of us have taken that same walk, many, many times before with these same Cowboys. Myself, from their start in 1960. I love them, warts and all.

No, I don't acquiesce to criminal actions nor fan belligernece in deference. I still believe in a good example for our youth, ethics, integrity, and a basic good in the sport from our Cowboys.

But directions inquired into, is what the off season is all about. From those queries, standards are set and comparative and yea, statistical analysis is set. It gives a comparative view for individual, season, and playoff analysis. And yes, even provides a solid base for a valid after action analysis and view.

This is what a good Cowboys board is about. It is a venue to come back and enjoy an exchange with other posters. Not venting, harassments, and venting one's own emotions towards another's views. Group insult is not a real part of sport, or discussion. This is supposed to be fun. As are our Cowboys.

Amen

 

[TX Cowboy]

I am old and yes it was Dilfer not Flacco

 

[darthseinfeld]

Exactly..

Question- Do the Colts, Pats, Cowboys of the 70's or 90's win without their QB?

What if we had Jason Garrett instead of Aikman, lol.

Short awnser, no. Those teams dont accomplish what they set out to do without a QB

Longer awnser. Depends on your definition of winning. As Cowboy fans its all the way. But in a broader sense the Cowboys won with Buerline at QB in 1991 with Aikman sidelined. It was Buerline and not Aikman that got that dynasty to the playoffs for the first time. Its worth noting that Buerline went on to be a pro bowl level QB elsewhere.

However I revert back to the short awnser. Buerline wasnt taking us to a SB. And he didnt take Carolina or Oakland

 

[CCBoy]

I am old and yes it was Dilfer not Flacco

 

[AdamJT13]

Come on Adam the Rams didn't even have a FG kicker for like 5 games. That offense was putting up dang near 40 points a game, most teams had to score to much and they couldn't. The Rams were taking every team out their comfort zone and forcing them to score because if not the Rams would have score 60

What does that have to do with anything I posted?

 

[DFWJC]

Balance wins championships even the Ravens in 2000 needed Flacco
and special teams in order to win it all