Please Washington play your starters vs US. We need the 11th pick in the draft!

[Captain43Crash]

Yup it's going to get ugly, they'll put up 40 plus and we'll be uninspired.

Washington does not care about this game unless it improves their playoff position. They will probably sit most of their guys if it does not improve their playoff positioning.
I hope they are motivated and play everyone, but I doubt it.

 

[DallasEast]

Also, we have so many fans that NEED to win these games to! Why? It hurts our future ability to field a strong team. Drafting 11 compared to 16-17 is huge.

lol @ 'need'. What fans want or not want is irrelevant.

Fans rooting for wins does not affect whether the team win, loses, or what slot and which player the franchise drafts. Likewise, fans rooting for loses does not affect whether the team win, loses, or what slot and which player the franchise drafts.

There has been a long-term logical fallacy concerning what fan rooting can do. The franchise's eventual draft position has been and will always be out of all fans' hands--with zero exceptions.

 

[movaughn88]

I don't think we could beat Appalachian State with almost everybody on the shelf. We practically had guys out of the stands playing DB.

We definitely, uh, need to get Andrew Booth Jr some more experience. Definitely play him the whole game.

He's good to give up at least 2 long TDs.

 

[fivetwos]

Yes, we are at 17 right now, but we have a VERY GOOD chance of dropping down to 11 with a loss. I explained how earlier.

They are currently 13 and have very little shot of dropping to 17 even with a win.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Yes. The long-term progress I mentioned, the higher draft position ... I'm sure Sanford & Son (Jerry, Stephen) understand that. But they may have the mindset of the fans you say "need to win" these kinds of games. Nothing surprises me these days. But I'd think a lot of their fans would wonder if Commanders, Quinn play a difference maker like Jayden Daniels Sunday.

I doubt Daniel’s sees the field if this game does not improve their seeding in the playoffs.
We have fans that will be happy for 24 hours over a meaningful game were the other team plays their backups! This meaningless win will effect our draft capital, a lot, if we had the opportunity to pick 11, but pick 16-17 because of this meaningless game where the other team didn’t even care about winning.

 

[BigD5]

I’ve always wanted the highest draft pick possible. But with Coach Jerry and Asst Coach Steven running the show I think in some strange way picking in this area of the draft is best case scenario for us fans. Too high of a pick and Coach/GM/President/Owner Jerry will screw it up and pick a RB with the 4th pick or something… too low of a pick and Jerry starts thinking he’s a guru and he picks a project he thinks he can fix with his coaching.

This area right here though seems perfect for Dallas. They need to just sit and wait on a great player to get passed up a little and then snag them. Like Emmitt, CD, Parsons etc

 

[Captain43Crash]

They are currently 13 and have very little shot of dropping to 17 even with a win.

They have a very good chance of drafting 11 with a loss. With a win they pick probably 15-17.

Picking 11 in EVERY round is much better than 15-17 in every round!

 

[Captain43Crash]

I’ve always wanted the highest draft pick possible. But with Coach Jerry and Asst Coach Steven running the show I think in some strange way picking in this area of the draft is best case scenario for us fans. Too high of a pick and Coach/GM/President/Owner Jerry will screw it up and pick a RB with the 4th pick or something… too low of a pick and Jerry starts thinking he’s a guru and he picks a project he thinks he can fix with his coaching.

This area right here though seems perfect for Dallas. They need to just sit and wait on a great player to get passed up a little and then snag them. Like Emmitt, CD, Parsons etc

We pick earlier in every round! Much easier to draft well when you pick much earlier. This is not Rocket Science: earlier picks are easier to get good players because their are more good players left when you pick earlier.

 

[blueblood70]

Still would WAY rather have the 11th pick in every round than the 17th!!!!

stop overthinking the draft..ughh.

 

[ApolytonGP]

If y'all could take a dive also, that would help. Not even trolling. That last game showed we are only a marginal contender. Plus stuff happens. Look at the Giants-Colts game.

We'll play our healthy starters (but had 5 guys out this last game, 3 starters...and the injuries are hammies and the like, may still be hurt). But JD will play.

6 versus 7 makes a difference to us. We will compete for it. But you are actually very close to our team in ability.

 

[rambo2]

stop overthinking the draft..ughh.

11 would be awesome.

 

[Captain43Crash]

I guess it depends on whether Washington cares about the 6th seed or 7th. Probably the difference between playing at Philly or at LA Rams first week or if they just want to avoid injuries.

Great point! If they can drop in seeding I think they will play their starters. They could possibly get a home game if the 7th seed beats the #1 seed.

 

[Captain43Crash]

stop overthinking the draft..ughh.

I’m using logic and statistics, not emotion and feelings.
Many fans: “this meaningless game will make me feel good for 24 hours”. Think about the teams future not 1 meaningful game.

 

[blueblood70]

11 would be awesome.

#1 is best ,so 11 sounds terrible using corrupt logic. if the draft only bared fruit in the 1st round or top of the first round , the league would not have 7 rounds and teams would be in trouble, sometimes too many options, like very large menu at nice restaurant, you make mistakes, 2nd guessing yourself IMHO

you still have great option but only 2 vs 6 , easer to be confident on who to take.

this is why guys like Bland, Brady, Purdy, Watt, Donald, Diggs, pahenco, Dak, Russ Wilson, and even lamb at 17 fall and in redraft would be taken much higher.. thats only naming few but some UDFAs were left off boards and turned out to be 1st round talent.

I get the logic but all logic is not the best route. defy logic...

 

[blueblood70]

I’m using logic and statistics, not emotion and feelings.
Many fans: “this meaningless game will make me feel good for 24 hours”. Think about the teams future not 1 meaningful game.

actually, first round draft picks have less the amount of HOF players than undrafted free agents. odd stat huh?? odd logic??? overthinking is what gets many GMs in trouble in the draft allow guys like Watt and lamb to slip. diggs etc VS say SF trading UP 3 first for lance hmm what a fail...


this is why guys like Bland, Brady, Purdy, Watt, Donald, Diggs, pahenco, Dak, Russ Wilson, and even lamb at 17 fall and in redraft would be taken much higher.. thats only naming few but some UDFAs were left off boards and turned out to be 1st round talent.

I get the logic but all logic is not the best route. defy logic...

 

[blueblood70]

lol @ 'need'. What fans want or not want is irrelevant.

Fans rooting for wins does not affect whether the team win, loses, or what slot and which player the franchise drafts. Likewise, fans rooting for loses does not affect whether the team win, loses, or what slot and which player the franchise drafts.

There has been a long-term logical fallacy concerning what fan rooting can do. The franchise's eventual draft position has been and will always be out of all fans' hands--with zero exceptions.

right, we should be discussing the draft , AFTER the draft spots are set, and with more information ow where we are choosing and who might be available.

like in March, watch the combine, see a few realistic mocks dropped to have real debates etc.

 

[fivetwos]

They have a very good chance of drafting 11 with a loss. With a win they pick probably 15-17.

Picking 11 in EVERY round is much better than 15-17 in every round!

I hear you, but the every round thing is incorrect.

Strength of schedule is used to break ties in round one, then teams with identical records alternate in subsequent rounds, so if four teams are 8-9, whoever selected first in round one will go to fourth in round two.

I get what you’re saying and I’m not trying to be a know it all, but I just don’t understand why it’s such a big deal either way in this particular year. Yes, 11 vs 17 is different, but it’s unlikely they fall below 15. The pick is most likely to be 12th.

Don’t confuse me with being someone that’s openly hoping for a meaningless win…and have to watch Jerry dance in the hallway again and boast… but a loss doesn’t really change much the way this year has unfolded with so many bad teams, and this being kind of a meh draft. I don’t see any real way to make a distinction between what type of player they are likely to get.

The better point of your original is if Quinn plays his starters or not. I haven’t looked but it probably means 5 vs 6 seed? Unsure. Could be the difference between a trip to Atlanta as opposed to the Rams, who I wouldn’t want to run into right now.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Update: I THINK WASHINGTON WILL PLAY their starters!!!

They must win this game to stay at the 6th seed!! If the lose, they most likely drop to the #7 seed behind Green Bay. Washington will definitely want the 6th seed over the 7th!!!!!!! They could get a home playoff game as a 6th seed.

 

[thunderpimp91]

actually, first round draft picks have less the amount of HOF players than undrafted free agents. odd stat huh?? odd logic???

It is an odd stat because its simply not true....Of the 378 HOF members just 22 were undrafted. There were 22 1st round players in the HOF by 1956 alone.

 

[DallasEast]

right, we should be discussing the draft , AFTER the draft spots are set, and with more information ow where we are choosing and who might be available.

like in March, watch the combine, see a few realistic mocks dropped to have real debates etc.

No. There is nothing wrong with discussing the draft--even though it would be wiser talking about it after it has solidified itself as you point out. The entire problem is folks blaming others for not rooting for loses. It is completely illogical blaming fellow members for something they have zero control over. What's next? Blaming clouds for rain???