Pollard situation

[jazzcat22]

I have always been in favor of that because good RB's are plentiful and the easiest transition to the NFL.

Mike Shanahan proved this can work and work very well.

I think John Madden said it a long time ago. A RB has it or he don't. Simple as that. Of course he didn't mean it exactly as that, but to a degree he is correct also.
It can some times as to learning the entire playbook and such, take a few years.

Then how does the team use him as well. It took until the 3rd and 4th year for Dallas to figure out some stuff, and Moore still did / would not utilize him as well as he could have.

I still would not tag him though.

 

[nightrain]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

The Cowboys need to keep the roster young and on rookie deals as much as possible. It makes no sense to hold on to RBs beyond their rookie deal.

 

[Bullflop]

I believe it may be best to keep both Malik Davis and Pollard and sign a power back to replace Zeke.
This may not seem overly great to everyone but replacing Ezekiel may be best, no matter what.

 

[blueblood70]

Why would Sanders be less expensive than Pollard?

He wont not from where i sir. He want his bag.. maybe 10-11 io think the 15-16 has peaked but 10-11 mil for premium back is still in play,.

 

[Whyjerry]

Cut Zeke. Tag Pollard. Draft RB in rounds 3-5. Done.

 

[Whyjerry]

I believe it may be best to keep both Malik Davis and Pollard and sign a power back to replace Zeke.
This may not seem overly great to everyone but replacing Ezekiel might best, no matter what.

No to signing. Draft a back in mid rounds.

 

[Bullflop]

No to signing. Draft a back in mid rounds.

The signing of a power back in the draft is what I had in mind. Not sure what they might choose to do with Pollard, though. Money will be key.

 

[kumizi]

Zeke got 6 years, $90 million with $50 million guaranteed.

Pollard is looking at 1 year, $10 million.

Sometimes I wonder about people when they say stuff like "look how paying Zeke worked out. why do you want to pay Pollard now?" Those two salary commitments are nothing alike. I dont see any way Pollard isnt back on the franchise tag.

 

[blueblood70]

if 20 is healthy and 100%. He's been hurt badly the last 2 years. Its a gamble.

"badly" zeke was hurt worse..jhe missed what 2 total games thats not badly the offseason surgery was basic and wont effect his game ie repaired the high ankle issue and the fracture heals quick..he would be available for all offseason activity's.

IM not against starting over at RB or tag pollard, Zeke redo his deal to what hes owed cut anyways ie 2yrs 12mil so he will be on the books for that anyway, keepo him, or ois he taking a spot for better RB in the draft

Use a Malik, draft a RB in the early 3rd(should get comp pick for pollard leaving) , and get street fa on the cheap to fill in for zeke.
lost of options, interesting to see what the of will do..

 

[VACowboy]

If teams start holding fast to not paying QB's huge money (could never get all FO's to agree) QB's will start moving alot, tell me again what the most known player on each team is to the common fan? We are asking a league who openly says its about revenue to do something that will hurt thier revenue...Will they think of a way to keep QB's off the cap, maybe, are they going to like 10 to 12 QB's switching teams each year... no not from a revenue standpoint.

That's collusion. The NFLPA would take the owners for all they're worth.

 

[Typhus]

Except for the Pollard part, this sounds good. It costs 10 million to tag Pollard. Drafting young legs and putting 10 million in to offensive or defensive lines is a much better value. And Pollard will falter; he usually gets hurt at some point in season anyways even with limited carries and now is coming off injury too.

I am always inline with continually churning the RB core, don't get tied into 2nd contracts, just need to casually draft prospects and continually develop.
We have a major problem in Dallas and that is never preparing to replace heavy contracts, wont even bring up the QB position, we are talking RBs so we have Davis and Dowdle as backups. not all inspiring, zero leverage.
Would love to be sitting on a decent investment from last years RB draft class, but as usual, we have nothing there.
So the franchise tag will be awarded to Pollard and we well desperately be seeking RB depth/starters in this draft class.
In the immortal words of Forrest Gump... stupid is as stupid does.

 

[blueblood70]

That's collusion. The NFLPA would take the owners for all they're worth.

Not really its already started, browns stupidly and reckless way they structuring Watson with 100% guaranteed 250mil and won't be any teams willing to do that , so thats no longer the market. they have right to deny that type of deal to other qbs down the line, already started with LJ, DJ got his hand out but might be disappointed. Owners have every right to just say no and allow a player to walk or trade them..thats easy to do legally, simply trade or release them before the 2nd deal., the new team then says this is all we are willing to pay whats being demanded etc

no collusion ion deciding how to use the cap and reset the market. just say NO..sure they cant go beh d the backs of the nflpa or nfl and decide to collude but they dont have to if they all just simply say enough, i see this starting with RBs soon that 15-16 will no longer be market its sliding back to under 12.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

If you can't make a deal with him then trade him. No way they will come close to getting what the 9ers gave up for McCaffrey. If they could get a 3 and 4 then I would trade him.

 

[baltcowboy]

Fans are not going to like it but almost every insider is saying Pollard is getting tagged. Remember he and CeeDee are our best weapons on offense. I still think they workout a three year deal.

 

[Whyjerry]

The signing of a power back in the draft is what I had in mind. Not sure what they might choose to do with Pollard, though. Money will be key.

I think it all starts with Zeke. Jerry needs to just admit he royally screwed up (again) and cut him. The cap savings is almost $11 million. Zeke is shot and also plays like a guy not committed to football. Huge mistake signing him to that deal. Cut bait time.

 

[VACowboy]

Not really its already started, browns stupidly and reckless way they structuring Watson with 100% guaranteed 250mil and won't be any teams willing to do that , so thats no longer the market. they have right to deny that type of deal to other qbs down the line, already started with LJ, DJ got his hand out but might be disappointed. Owners have every right to just say no and allow a player to walk or trade them..thats easy to do legally, simply trade or release them before the 2nd deal., the new team then says this is all we are willing to pay whats being demanded etc

no collusion ion deciding how to use the cap and reset the market. just say NO..sure they cant go beh d the backs of the nflpa or nfl and decide to collude but they dont have to if they all just simply say enough, i see this starting with RBs soon that 15-16 will no longer be market its sliding back to under 12.

You seemed to be insinuating something about the teams agreeing to a money ceiling for QBs, and that's collusion. I bet if contracts are up for Allen, Hurts, Burrow, etc, and nobody is offering more than $30m, you're gonna see the NFLPA crank up its machine pretty quick.

 

[blueblood70]

You seemed to be insinuating something about the teams agreeing to a money ceiling for QBs, and that's collusion. I bet if contracts are up for Allen, Hurts, Burrow, etc, and nobody is offering more than $30m, you're gonna see the NFLPA crank up its machine pretty quick.

no, thats the owner's digression to pay any player whatever they feel is his worth, that NOT collusion, its free enterprise. No company is forced to pay any employee a set deal..it can and would be slow slide not , said payer and agent can accept or walk , lots of options. once they get the PayScale going downward, it resets the market and the FT , if that tag then stays around 40 , what's the issue here? its the qbs who are getting those huge deals and not delivering that will cause the market to slide a bit, if you think when hurt's is up its all of sudden better then Watson and now 58 mil, no it does not have to work that way, philly can say FT ,FT ,Trade.. offer 45 per 180 guaranteed and easily keep that market from escalating TO REDICULOUS HEGHTS as it started too.

 

[blueblood70]

I think it all starts with Zeke. Jerry needs to just admit he royally screwed up (again) and cut him. The cap savings is almost $11 million. Zeke is shot and also plays like a guy not committed to football. Huge mistake signing him to that deal. Cut bait time.

cutting bait still owing him about 12mil , so restructure to 2 years 12 mil..pay him to play or to sit and watch from home?

 

[SinceDayOne]

I really like what Tony Pollard did as a Cowboy his first four years on the roster. But personally I am not big at all on him as a player going forward. First of all he is entering his 5th season and that is about the time that running backs start to slow down. (I know there are exceptions...Emmitt, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, etc.) Second he is coming off a serious leg injury. I know the docs say he will be able to walk and run as good as ever BUT will he be the pro bowl athlete he was last season? Often we see players coming off an injury and unable to perform the way they did prior to the injury (Michael Gallup pops to mind as a recent example.) I would let Pollard become a FA and take my chances of signing his for less than the tag price...much less. Injured RB usually do not have a lot of value with NFL teams.

 

[Mr_437]

Cut Zeke. Tag Pollard. Draft RB in rounds 3-5. Done.

Fans are not going to like it but almost every insider is saying Pollard is getting tagged. Remember he and CeeDee are our best weapons on offense. I still think they workout a three year deal.

I see it the way you guys do.