Pollard situation

[Typhus]

Cut Zeke. Tag Pollard. Draft RB in rounds 3-5. Done.

That will be the approach.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

That's collusion. The NFLPA would take the owners for all they're worth.

1000%......I'm not sure fans understand these owners' partnership with the players.

Players receive 48% of the NFL revenue by the 2021 season and at least 48.8% of the revenue in any 17-game NFL season.

BTW......those are saying they would recycle the RB position every 4-5 years. Players and agents have already countered that strategy. Why do you think we now have the mess with Zeke contract? In other words, RBs and their agents ARE NOT going to allow teams to run them to the ground and trash them. My guess is they will demand 100% guaranteed rookie contracts.

 

[CyberB0b]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

No one is giving a 2nd for Pollard.

 

[reddyuta]

10 million for the tag is not the way to go.just draft 2 RBs,get a cheap veteran for 2-3 million and we are set.

 

[john van brocklin]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

Don't think he will fetch much in a trade for picks.
He will have a high salary and coming off of surgery.
I would take a second rounder if offered.

 

[LatinMind]

If you can't make a deal with him then trade him. No way they will come close to getting what the 9ers gave up for McCaffrey. If they could get a 3 and 4 then I would trade him.

Me too.

 

[Acceptablename]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

The second and third rounds of the sweet spot for some really quality players I really do want to draft gifts. And another later. My only regret is Pollard deserves better

 

[quickccc]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

Cannot trade an Unrestricted FA (Pollard)... he would have to be Franchise Tagged and then traded to an offering NFL team willing to give up 2 first round picks
And was it the likelihood of multiple first rd picks for a RB ?

Caffrey is already well established, in both running and receiving.. ....Pollard has not developed his receiving skills in the NFL like Mac has ..Kellen hindered him in that area.

 

[quickccc]

do we realize Pollard has been hurt badly 2 years in a row? It was his foot in 2021, then in 2022 the leg/ankle/ligaments. Now we tag him? HELL NO. The last 2 years are red flags.

hurt badly in 2021 ?

how many games did he missed ..since he was so hurt badly ?

2022 ?
That was just that last finale game of the entire season .

.. geez, what's next ?

 

[Flamma]

Whatever they do, if anything, would need to be agreed to by the players union.

QBs are in that same union.

The league should come up with some sort of proposal during next round of CBA negotiations, but if it’s about restricting salaries of the players, they will need to offer something significant in return.

I get your point and agree, it’s just a lot more complicated than Goodell or the owners simply saying…”here’s what we are going to do…”

Complicated to where it’ll probably have to correct itself by more teams finding it doesn’t make sense to pay an average QB top dollar.

The owners have themselves to blame. People are now suggesting that the league make rules to save the owners from themselves? It's easy, don't pay a QB like Daniel Jones 45M a year. If enough owners did this, the problem would fix itself.

Besides, capping the QB position doesn't solve the main problem of lesser QBs being paid the same or similar to the greater QBs.

 

[Pass2Run]

Yeah, when a guy is running like Adrian Peterson, you don't let him walk. Definitely sign Pollard. To do that, you have to cut Zeke.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Most NFL lines are terrible and RBs still do fine.

Cheap RBs with fresh legs is the way.

Pollard is close to Christian McCaffrey but even McCaffrey may not be worth his pay considering he is always hurt.

If you wanna talk easily replaced for cheap, notice that Noah Brown was 1.8ypt better than Gallup, and Ferguson 1.4ypt better than Schultz. Notice what Hilton did in 3 games.

We paid more for Gallup and Schulz last year. We'll be paying more for Gallup again this year.

Pollard is much more of a weapon than both. Even better yards per target than both. And he had the longest reception of the year. On a fly. That they only have tried once with him in 4 years.

Pollard is not Frank Gore. He's not a between the tackles plodder. He brings so much more.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Yeah, when a guy is running like Adrian Peterson, you don't let him walk. Definitely sign Pollard. To do that, you have to cut Zeke.

We should cut Zeke regardless. He's a guy easy to improve on. YPT < 4 last year.

Abysmal. The only player lower was Cooper.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

We canna start the season with a Roo!ie RB.
If we pick up a FA, then eny? We already he pollard.

Yes, keep Pollard/Davis
And get an O lineman and NT in the first 2 rounds then a QB in the 3rd.

 

[ICP]

Pollard has been fantastic, but coming off the injury and having to at least give him the franchise money you can't help but think maybe we find a solution through the draft. Buuuut we do have quite a few needs and I find it hard to believe that Dumb and Dumber will let both Pollard and Zeke go.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Most NFL lines are terrible and RBs still do fine.

Cheap RBs with fresh legs is the way.

Pollard is close to Christian McCaffrey but even McCaffrey may not be worth his pay considering he is always hurt.

Most lines are terrible and rbs do fine?
not one of your more thoughtful posts. This is the rambling of a poster that clearly doesn’t understand football.

 

[FVSTONE]

This won't be a popular opinion maybe. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of rookie contract rbs, strictly. Draft them and let them produce then let the walk but keep drafting a new one every other yr in the first 4 rounds.

First, they absolutely should try to re-sign Pollard, but it they can't franchise him and trade him. His age and the season he just had, and reports starting to come out they expect him to be ready to go by the start of tc.

If McCaffery got the niners a 2nd 3rd and 4th Pollard could Def get dal something like that. Maybe a 3rd and 4th or a 2nd and 5th. Or just a 2nd would be good for me.

Tony Pollard
1377 total yards 12 tds 232 total touches 0 turnovers
5.9yrds per touch

Christian McCaffery
1839 total yards 13 tds 343 total touches 1 turnover
5.3yrds per touch

New England has had great success releasing players before their time and were lucky enough to have a QB who was always giving the team a discount to keep signing quality FAs.

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't think Pollard is going to get you what McCaffrey did and maybe not even close. First off, look who's doing the trading. Secondly, McCaffrey has had multiple good seasons, whereas Pollard is coming off the best year of his - albeit shorter - career. Also coming off injury and will need to show he hasn't lost anything.

Perhaps the hidden piece is the cap. The Panthers ate his signing bonus proration for the remainder of the deal, which changes things quite a bit between the 2 situations. He's still locked up for 3 more seasons and he can be cut at pretty much any time with no dead money. For all intents and purposes, SF got a 3-year/$36M contract with nothing guaranteed. There isn't an agent on the planet that would let Pollard take that deal, so part of the cost in acquiring Pollard is going to be consideration for how much his cap number will be, and how long a team is committed to him before reaching a cut-neutral point. That's usually 2-3 years.

I think the play will be the Franchise Tag to put pressure on Zeke's reps to take a cut. I doubt Pollard gets traded and if he does then everyone should expect Jerry to basically get nothing in return.

 

[plasticman]

This may seem cold blooded but it's a cold blooded business and those who recognize this are probably the ones that succeed the best.

I would pass on Pollard. The extent of his injury and how it will effect his productivity has to be considered. The Cowboys must refrain from using a contract like a reward for past results and must base them on expected future results. He will miss significant time next season Let's be realistic about that.

There is also the "satisfaction" effect on Cowboys players with new contracts. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the drop in productivity? Dak, T-Law, Dez, Zeke, almost every Cowboys skill players seem to lose their intensity once they get the big bucks. Would Pollard be any different?

 

[Typhus]

I really like what Tony Pollard did as a Cowboy his first four years on the roster. But personally I am not big at all on him as a player going forward. First of all he is entering his 5th season and that is about the time that running backs start to slow down. (I know there are exceptions...Emmitt, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, etc.) Second he is coming off a serious leg injury. I know the docs say he will be able to walk and run as good as ever BUT will he be the pro bowl athlete he was last season? Often we see players coming off an injury and unable to perform the way they did prior to the injury (Michael Gallup pops to mind as a recent example.) I would let Pollard become a FA and take my chances of signing his for less than the tag price...much less. Injured RB usually do not have a lot of value with NFL teams.

As fans we like to believe that players continually improve their game, but its just not the truth. We probably just witnessed Pollards best career season.