CFZ Possible rush defense solutions?

Cowboyny

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This defense is looking more like the one Mike Nolan ran these last 2 weeks, unable to stop the run with any success, result of limited pass rushing opportunities and offenses seeing easy run/pass options in 3rd and manageable distances.

The issues aren't within just one area, it's throughout the personnel and defensive scheme:

-We seen huge gains on the ground both inside and on the edge.
-Defensive Line stunts have created huge rushing lanes to exploit, where backs get to the 2nd level with ease.
-Using 3 safety looks over more of a traditional alignment makes it harder to defend the ground attacks.
-There are some issues with the personnel throughout the unit.
-Lack of discipline or so called gap responsibility.

Some possible solutions:

-Quinn needs to dumb down his scheme, no more stunts/twists up front, has to be more conservative.
-Bring back more of a traditional front with a linebacker replacing Kearse inside the box.
-Play bigger personnel, Zimmer used to employ 2 1 Tech's inside, we might have to do the same. 3-4 Fronts were established to defend the run better, maybe use that alignment more.
-Bench players who freelance and lack discipline. Make them accountable for their play.
-Offense needs to force teams to pass the ball more often by playing ahead.
 

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Unfortunately, if the Cowboys can't stop the bleeding on defense, they may have to change how they play on offense. They will want to jump on teams early and try to take them out of a patient running game to keep up. Of course it will mean the Cowboys have to score early and often. Not something we have seen this year except for the Bears game.
 

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This defense is looking more like the one Mike Nolan ran these last 2 weeks, unable to stop the run with any success, result of limited pass rushing opportunities and offenses seeing easy run/pass options in 3rd and manageable distances.

The issues aren't within just one area, it's throughout the personnel and defensive scheme:

-We seen huge gains on the ground both inside and on the edge.
-Defensive Line stunts have created huge rushing lanes to exploit, where backs get to the 2nd level with ease.
-Using 3 safety looks over more of a traditional alignment makes it harder to defend the ground attacks.
-There are some issues with the personnel throughout the unit.
-Lack of discipline or so called gap responsibility.

Some possible solutions:

-Quinn needs to dumb down his scheme, no more stunts/twists up front, has to be more conservative.
-Bring back more of a traditional front with a linebacker replacing Kearse inside the box.
-Play bigger personnel, Zimmer used to employ 2 1 Tech's inside, we might have to do the same. 3-4 Fronts were established to defend the run better, maybe use that alignment more.
-Bench players who freelance and lack discipline. Make them accountable for their play.
-Offense needs to force teams to pass the ball more often by playing ahead.


3-4 front is worse at run defense
 

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One big issue is I believe they were trying to turn MP into more of a traditional LB this game and cut back on rush and not only did it not work but he disappeared a little. It may be one of those things were we have to gamble a little. We don’t have the personnel. So what needs to happen is we score early, other team is forced to pass and play into our strength..pass rush. GB did not fear continuing to run though
 

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The one card we have to play is moving Parsons from a full time edge rusher to more of a mixed role.

Otherwise, we're kind of stuck. We don't have a single good run stuffer LB on this team. We don't have a single good stuffer DT outside of maybe Hankins. The DEs are horrible outside of run-stopping god DLaw.

We just don't have the talent, and you can't get more at this point of the season.
 

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This defense is looking more like the one Mike Nolan ran these last 2 weeks, unable to stop the run with any success, result of limited pass rushing opportunities and offenses seeing easy run/pass options in 3rd and manageable distances.

The issues aren't within just one area, it's throughout the personnel and defensive scheme:

-We seen huge gains on the ground both inside and on the edge.
-Defensive Line stunts have created huge rushing lanes to exploit, where backs get to the 2nd level with ease.
-Using 3 safety looks over more of a traditional alignment makes it harder to defend the ground attacks.
-There are some issues with the personnel throughout the unit.
-Lack of discipline or so called gap responsibility.

Some possible solutions:

-Quinn needs to dumb down his scheme, no more stunts/twists up front, has to be more conservative.
-Bring back more of a traditional front with a linebacker replacing Kearse inside the box.
-Play bigger personnel, Zimmer used to employ 2 1 Tech's inside, we might have to do the same. 3-4 Fronts were established to defend the run better, maybe use that alignment more.
-Bench players who freelance and lack discipline. Make them accountable for their play.
-Offense needs to force teams to pass the ball more often by playing ahead.
The major problem on defense is they can't get off their blocks!!!!!!!!!! Look at the long runs, there is a defender there to plug or make a tackle, but they can't shed the block and the ball carrier jets past them. Parsons looks average at best when he's playing the backer spot, he looks like he doesn't have the strength or KNOWLEDGE to fight off the blocker. When he's on the D-Line he can bull rush or shake and bake a lineman to get past them and on to the QB, but when he's out in space and it's one on one he's so late shedding his block and it's on to the secondary for the ball carrier.
 

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This defense is looking more like the one Mike Nolan ran these last 2 weeks, unable to stop the run with any success, result of limited pass rushing opportunities and offenses seeing easy run/pass options in 3rd and manageable distances.

The issues aren't within just one area, it's throughout the personnel and defensive scheme:

-We seen huge gains on the ground both inside and on the edge.
-Defensive Line stunts have created huge rushing lanes to exploit, where backs get to the 2nd level with ease.
-Using 3 safety looks over more of a traditional alignment makes it harder to defend the ground attacks.
-There are some issues with the personnel throughout the unit.
-Lack of discipline or so called gap responsibility.

Some possible solutions:

-Quinn needs to dumb down his scheme, no more stunts/twists up front, has to be more conservative.
-Bring back more of a traditional front with a linebacker replacing Kearse inside the box.
-Play bigger personnel, Zimmer used to employ 2 1 Tech's inside, we might have to do the same. 3-4 Fronts were established to defend the run better, maybe use that alignment more.
-Bench players who freelance and lack discipline. Make them accountable for their play.
-Offense needs to force teams to pass the ball more often by playing ahead.
They could have signed Wagner.
 

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The one card we have to play is moving Parsons from a full time edge rusher to more of a mixed role.

Otherwise, we're kind of stuck. We don't have a single good run stuffer LB on this team. We don't have a single good stuffer DT outside of maybe Hankins. The DEs are horrible outside of run-stopping god DLaw.

We just don't have the talent, and you can't get more at this point of the season.

I’ve been screaming this about Parsons. Maybe also stack the box more and deploy some single high Safety looks?

I mean at this point would it be so bad to give up some passing plays at least knowing we aren’t giving up 200 on the ground?
 

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One big issue is I believe they were trying to turn MP into more of a traditional LB this game and cut back on rush and not only did it not work but he disappeared a little. It may be one of those things were we have to gamble a little. We don’t have the personnel. So what needs to happen is we score early, other team is forced to pass and play into our strength..pass rush. GB did not fear continuing to run though
I agree, playing Parsons full time at LB was a poor decision, makes a bigger impact as an edge rusher. However, I would like Quinn to move him more around and rush/blitz in different spots.
 

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Good ideas, but we don’t have the personal to run a base 3/4.

I’d add a big part of the problem is we also don’t have enough talent at DT and LBr which is hurting us.
Think taking Kearse off the field on base downs and replacing him with Clark makes some sense. Also, would consider using a 5-2 front.
 

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The one card we have to play is moving Parsons from a full time edge rusher to more of a mixed role.

Otherwise, we're kind of stuck. We don't have a single good run stuffer LB on this team. We don't have a single good stuffer DT outside of maybe Hankins. The DEs are horrible outside of run-stopping god DLaw.

We just don't have the talent, and you can't get more at this point of the season.
Think they have to try to tweak the personnel and scheme in season to try to stop the bleeding. If they can just become middle of pack against the run, they can be successful.
 

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Think taking Kearse off the field on base downs and replacing him with Clark makes some sense. Also, would consider using a 5-2 front.

As much as I liked Clark as a prospect, has he shown us anything that would make us believe he should be starting? He was non existent last week.
 

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This defense is looking more like the one Mike Nolan ran these last 2 weeks, unable to stop the run with any success, result of limited pass rushing opportunities and offenses seeing easy run/pass options in 3rd and manageable distances.

The issues aren't within just one area, it's throughout the personnel and defensive scheme:

-We seen huge gains on the ground both inside and on the edge.
-Defensive Line stunts have created huge rushing lanes to exploit, where backs get to the 2nd level with ease.
-Using 3 safety looks over more of a traditional alignment makes it harder to defend the ground attacks.
-There are some issues with the personnel throughout the unit.
-Lack of discipline or so called gap responsibility.

Some possible solutions:

-Quinn needs to dumb down his scheme, no more stunts/twists up front, has to be more conservative.
-Bring back more of a traditional front with a linebacker replacing Kearse inside the box.
-Play bigger personnel, Zimmer used to employ 2 1 Tech's inside, we might have to do the same. 3-4 Fronts were established to defend the run better, maybe use that alignment more.
-Bench players who freelance and lack discipline. Make them accountable for their play.
-Offense needs to force teams to pass the ball more often by playing ahead.
Parsons, LVE, Kearse, Armstrong, Wilson, Brown, and Diggs are the problem with the run. They need to get off blocks or step up and make tackles.:angry:
 

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As much as I liked Clark as a prospect, has he shown us anything that would make us believe he should be starting? He was non existent last week.
They didn’t play him. Parsons was the second linebacker. Obviously Quinn does not think he is ready.
 
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