CFZ Post Wk 15: QB Combined Statistical Ranking

[DFWJC]

I'll repeat the intro from previous weeks....
I did this the last few years.
It pretty much delivers the league MVP every year.

Don't get too worked up over this. Just data.

Combine and average the QBs' rank of the following two categories and tally.

1. Differential: Total TDs (Passing/Rushing TDs ) - Total Turnovers ....This reduces bus-driving a little bit
2. Standard NFL Passer Rating

This is where we stand after 15 weeks (14 games)
3-way tie at the top

1. Mahomes (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
2. Hurts (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
3. Tagovailoa (tied 1st (MVP candidate?)
4. Burrow (almost caught up to the top 4)
5. G Smith (career year, by far)
   
6. Allen (closing the gap)
7. Garoppolo ( out for year, may remove him soon)
8. Goff
9. Lawrence (keeps rising
10. Cousins (also rising)
    
11. Dalton (hard to believe, but there he is)
12. Carr ...the next 8 QBs are all bunched together
13. Rodgers (historically low for him)
14. Brady
15. Herbert
16. Jackson
17. Tannehill
18. PRESCOTT (tied 18th)
19. Fields (tied 18th)
20. D Jones
21. Mariotta (benched)
22. Murray
23. Brissett
24. R Wilson
25. Heinike
26. Stafford (out for season)
27. Wentz
28. Rush
29. Mayfield
30. M Jones
31. Mills
32. Z Wilson
33. Ryan
34. Pickett

Players not included due to not of enough games played:
Darnold, Purdy, White, K Allen, Huntley, Rypien, Trubisky, Watson, McCoy.

Here are the prior week's results
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/2022-post-wk-14-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.504431/

 

[MarcusRock]

This blatant exclusion of Mike White and the Purdy little QB from the west needs to stop.

 

[Captain-Crash]

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Too high

 

[Captain-Crash]

andy dalton says hey

 

[DFWJC]

This blatant exclusion of Mike White and the Purdy little QB from the west needs to stop.

fwiw...Mr Purdy would already be 15th right now if he had enough games.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think hurts or geno should get it for what they meant to their team.

 

[DandyDon52]

fwiw...Mr Purdy would already be 15th right now if he had enough games.

Purdy has looked great, depends on how he does rest of season and in playoffs.

 

[acr731]

GASP - - - - - - - - - - - -

I heard it here that Dak was top 5.

 

[john van brocklin]

I'll repeat the intro from previous weeks....
I did this the last few years.
It pretty much delivers the league MVP every year.

Don't get too worked up over this. Just data.

Combine and average the QBs' rank of the following two categories and tally.

1. Differential: Total TDs (Passing/Rushing TDs ) - Total Turnovers ....This reduces bus-driving a little bit
2. Standard NFL Passer Rating

This is where we stand after 15 weeks (14 games)
3-way tie at the top

1. Mahomes (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
2. Hurts (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
3. Tagovailoa (tied 1st (MVP candidate?)
4. Burrow (almost caught up to the top 4)
5. G Smith (career year, by far)
   
6. Allen (closing the gap)
7. Garoppolo ( out for year, may remove him soon)
8. Goff
9. Lawrence (keeps rising
10. Cousins (also rising)
    
11. Dalton (hard to believe, but there he is)
12. Carr ...the next 8 QBs are all bunched together
13. Rodgers (historically low for him)
14. Brady
15. Herbert
16. Jackson
17. Tannehill
18. PRESCOTT (tied 18th)
19. Fields (tied 18th)
20. D Jones
21. Mariotta (benched)
22. Murray
23. Brissett
24. R Wilson
25. Heinike
26. Stafford (out for season)
27. Wentz
28. Rush
29. Mayfield
30. M Jones
31. Mills
32. Z Wilson
33. Ryan
34. Pickett

Players not included due to not of enough games played:
Darnold, Purdy, White, K Allen, Huntley, Rypien, Trubisky, Watson, McCoy.

Here are the prior week's results
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/2022-post-wk-14-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.504431/

Dak tied for 18th is not a good look for the player or the Org.

 

[DFWJC]

I think hurts or geno should get it for what they meant to their team.

I think Mahomes had the weakest supporting offensive cast compared to the other top 5. No great WRs and one great TE plus average RBs.

It will for sure be either Hurts, Mahomes, or Tua.....and I suspect Tua is out.
Or unless something radical happens over the last 3 games

Geno's team is only 7-7 and are fading, so that would be tough. He's been real solid though. There's a giant gap between him and the top 3 if I showed the numbers

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Yet somehow the Cowboys are 1st in the NFL averaging 35 points per game since Dak's return as opposed to the 21.4 points per game they scored with Cooper Rush at quarterback. And their total yards, 3rd down conversion rate, yards per play, and red zone offense are all top three.

This offensive explosion is amazing with such an "inferior" quarterback back at the helm.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Dak tied w the player we shouldve replaced him for


And before you stans blame the receivers, Fields has wayyyyy less to work with on his team than Dak.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak tied w the player we shouldve replaced him for


And before you stans blame the receivers, Fields has wayyyyy less to work with on his team than Dak.

Dak has more passing yards, higher completion rate, more touchdowns......4 or 5 less games....like what are you even talking about lol?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak has more passing yards, higher completion rate, more touchdowns......4 or 5 less games....like what are you even talking about lol?

You forgot more INTS

He also doesn't have more TDs than Fields.

Fields has more rushing yards than both our RBs.

 

[Creeper]

Dak has 17 TD passes and 11 INTs. That is an awful ratio, 3rd worst in the league ahead of Matt Ryan (14 & 13), and Justin Fields (15 & 10).

If would be an awful ratio even if you removed the Brown drop. Dak needs to do better. He needs to make better decisions. In his defense, they run the ball a lot more so he doesn't have as many opportunities to throw those Tom Brady 1 yard TD passes.

 

[DFWJC]

I see some are comparing Dak and Fields.
Impossible to truly compare unless they play with the same team and vs same opponents but here were the results from this data so far. But Dak has played fewer games, so his differential would probably be higher since he is positive, but his rating could go up or down with more games.

Fields
Total TD (23) - Total Turnovers (11) = +12 (tied for 10th place)
Standard Passer Rating = 88.0 (22nd place)
(Didn't use QBR but he's 14th)

Prescott
Total TD (18) - Total Turnovers (11) = +7 (tied for 20th place)
Standard Passer Rating = 88.0 (12th place)
(Didn't use QBR is 16th)

 

[DFWJC]

Dak has 17 TD passes and 11 INTs. That is an awful ratio, 3rd worst in the league ahead of Matt Ryan (14 & 13), and Justin Fields (15 & 10).

If would be an awful ratio even if you removed the Brown drop. Dak needs to do better. He needs to make better decisions. In his defense, they run the ball a lot more so he doesn't have as many opportunities to throw those Tom Brady 1 yard TD passes.

Hard to not discuss Fields without mentioning his rushing...including 8 rushing touchdowns

btw and fwis....Mac Jones, Mayfield, Pickett (and maybe some others) have much worse TD/Int ratios than both Dak and Fields

 

[Cowboys1966]

fwiw...Mr Purdy would already be 15th right now if he had enough games.

It’s not a cumulative Statistic… Why do you say already?

 

[DFWJC]

It’s not a cumulative Statistic… Why do you say already?

Half of the equation is
Total Tds - Turnovers....if trending positive...IS a cumulative statistic.

I guess I could go by ratio, but then bus drivers come back into the picture

A guy with 8 TDs a full year and only 2 turnovers would be 4:1
A guy doing WAY better....with 39 TDs and only 10 turnovers (MVP level stats) would only be 3.9:1.....lol

Maybe I could do it by differential (not ratio) per game .....might have to try that