CFZ Post Wk 15: QB Combined Statistical Ranking

[DFWJC]

Hurts has a +28 differencial so far...so he's adding, on average, +2 to his total each week.
Mahomes has a +27...so about the same
Burrow is next at +24

Any 16 game total of over +20 is a nice year

I think the Cowboy record is +25 regular season and + 29 thru the playoffs (Romo 2014)

 

[JonesBoys]

Dak tied for 18th is not a good look for the player or the Org.

He's not going to live up to the contract. The Jones boys got caught with their pants down and had no plan in place except be backed into a corner by Dak and his agent. This gaff will keep the Cowboys from getting over the hump for the foreseeable future. But hey, they don't have to have any accountability for giving the wrong QB 40 million.

 

[DFWJC]

...if it helps, Dak would move up to 14th or so if we project his differential of 0.78 per game thru all 14 games

Then again, we would have to do that for everyone that missed games

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You forgot more INTS

He also doesn't have more TDs than Fields.

Fields has more rushing yards than both our RBs.

I didn't forget anything. he said Fields shouldn't have better stats then him and he doesn't.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He's not going to live up to the contract. The Jones boys got caught with their pants down and had no plan in place except be backed into a corner by Dak and his agent. This gaff will keep the Cowboys from getting over the hump for the foreseeable future. But hey, they don't have to have any accountability for giving the wrong QB 40 million.

If we win the SB nobody will care what he makes. Naw...ya'll will never mind.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I didn't forget anything. he said Fields shouldn't have better stats then him and he doesn't.

Yes he does.

Passing stats - Dak
Rushing stats - Fields
Turnovers - Fields

I'll take Fields.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes he does.

Passing stats - Dak
Rushing stats - Fields
Turnovers - Fields

I'll take Fields.

They both have 11 turnovers? Dak has more wins. Better passing stats…..

 

[terra]

Yet somehow the Cowboys are 1st in the NFL averaging 35 points per game since Dak's return as opposed to the 21.4 points per game they scored with Cooper Rush at quarterback. And their total yards, 3rd down conversion rate, yards per play, and red zone offense are all top three.

This offensive explosion is amazing with such an "inferior" quarterback back at the helm.

So the logical conclusion is that Dak is not the primary factor with such poor stats

 

[Captain-Crash]

hurts has improved, or guy, no so much.

 

[Cowboys1966]

Half of the equation is
Total Tds - Turnovers....if trending positive...IS a cumulative statistic.

I guess I could go by ratio, but then bus drivers come back into the picture

A guy with 8 TDs a full year and only 2 turnovers would be 4:1
A guy doing WAY better....with 39 TDs and only 10 turnovers (MVP level stats) would only be 3.9:1.....lol

Maybe I could do it by differential (not ratio) per game .....might have to try that

Got ya.

 

[nate dizzle]

I'll repeat the intro from previous weeks....
I did this the last few years.
It pretty much delivers the league MVP every year.

Don't get too worked up over this. Just data.

Combine and average the QBs' rank of the following two categories and tally.

1. Differential: Total TDs (Passing/Rushing TDs ) - Total Turnovers ....This reduces bus-driving a little bit
2. Standard NFL Passer Rating

This is where we stand after 15 weeks (14 games)
3-way tie at the top

1. Mahomes (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
2. Hurts (tied 1st, MVP candidate)
3. Tagovailoa (tied 1st (MVP candidate?)
4. Burrow (almost caught up to the top 4)
5. G Smith (career year, by far)
   
6. Allen (closing the gap)
7. Garoppolo ( out for year, may remove him soon)
8. Goff
9. Lawrence (keeps rising
10. Cousins (also rising)
    
11. Dalton (hard to believe, but there he is)
12. Carr ...the next 8 QBs are all bunched together
13. Rodgers (historically low for him)
14. Brady
15. Herbert
16. Jackson
17. Tannehill
18. PRESCOTT (tied 18th)
19. Fields (tied 18th)
20. D Jones
21. Mariotta (benched)
22. Murray
23. Brissett
24. R Wilson
25. Heinike
26. Stafford (out for season)
27. Wentz
28. Rush
29. Mayfield
30. M Jones
31. Mills
32. Z Wilson
33. Ryan
34. Pickett

Players not included due to not of enough games played:
Darnold, Purdy, White, K Allen, Huntley, Rypien, Trubisky, Watson, McCoy.

Here are the prior week's results
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/2022-post-wk-14-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.504431/

Feelings incoming.

 

[JonesBoys]

If we win the SB nobody will care what he makes. Naw...ya'll will never mind.

With a salary cap and a player being paid that much with a chunk of the cap better lead the team to a super bowl. If there wasn't a cap yea I could care less what anyone makes. Since being that big of a cap hit keeps the team from signing other players you pay more attention. See how that works?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

With a salary cap and a player being paid that much with a chunk of the cap better lead the team to a super bowl. If there wasn't a cap yea I could care less what anyone makes. Since being that big of a cap hit keeps the team from signing other players you pay more attention. See how that works?

So why do you think for the last few years the Cowboys haven’t spent in free agency? You do understand that if we didn’t have Dak’s contract we would just be giving it to guys like Conner Williams, Amari Cooper and La El Collins right? Probably even Jaylon Smith. The Cowboys had cap space and didn’t use it. Why do you guys keep letting Stephen tell y’all we are broke? Wake the hell up.

 

[SlingBoy]

Interesting that the 2 highest paid QBs for this season, Stafford and Wilson are 24th and 26th. Dak is actually 14th highest paid this season so he's not the lowest bang for the buck. Now next year.......

 

[DandyDon52]

I think Mahomes had the weakest supporting offensive cast compared to the other top 5. No great WRs and one great TE plus average RBs.

It will for sure be either Hurts, Mahomes, or Tua.....and I suspect Tua is out.
Or unless something radical happens over the last 3 games

Geno's team is only 7-7 and are fading, so that would be tough. He's been real solid though. There's a giant gap between him and the top 3 if I showed the numbers

agree, but I was just looking at how they elevated their team, not stats. Stats dont mean much to me. They tell me a little, but I use other things
to evaluate players or teams.
I also think D jones for giants has done a good job this season. nyg were supposed to be a 4 win team, and now here they are looking to be one of
the wc teams.

And honestly I think the MVP award is kinda stupid and irrelevant most of the years lol.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

They both have 11 turnovers? Dak has more wins. Better passing stats…..

And a hell of a lot more talent to still be average.Face it,Dak isn’t the answer.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And a hell of a lot more talent to still be average.Face it,Dak isn’t the answer.

Jury’s still out. Crappy offensive line and middle of the pack at best receivers….so much talent.

 

[JonesBoys]

hurts has improved, or guy, no so much.

So why do you think for the last few years the Cowboys haven’t spent in free agency? You do understand that if we didn’t have Dak’s contract we would just be giving it to guys like Conner Williams, Amari Cooper and La El Collins right? Probably even Jaylon Smith. The Cowboys had cap space and didn’t use it. Why do you guys keep letting Stephen tell y’all we are broke? Wake the hell up.

I don't let the Jones boys off the hook at all. I have been critical since the off season of them being cheap. And if the plan was to pay Jaylon Smith, Collins ect if the didn't pay Dak then there are much bigger problems. Pay the right guys, I'm just not sure Dak was one of them. Time is running out.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Jury’s still out. Crappy offensive line and middle of the pack at best receivers….so much talent.

Jury has decided and the verdict isak can put up decent meaningless stats when games don’t really matter, but when it’s money time in big games and big situations he folds like a cheap suit.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't let the Jones boys off the hook at all. I have been critical since the off season of them being cheap. And if the plan was to pay Jaylon Smith, Collins ect if the didn't pay Dak then there are much bigger problems. Pay the right guys, I'm just not sure Dak was one of them. Time is running out.

I just don’t get why you guys think this team would spend money on outside free agents. What is the last big name free agent they’ve signed?