Potential Salary Cap Casualties

Nightman

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You show me skill positions that can successfully score touchdowns with bottom of the league QB play....especially when that wr1 is injured.

I honestly believe we would've scored more touchdowns with Romo and I am sure you would agree with that as well. If you believe that, you must believe that Romo wouldn't have been rushing for those touchdowns. No, McFadden, Bryant, Williams, Bease and Witten would've all benefited from having a QB that can change plays at the line of scrimmage, convert redzone opportunities and keep defenses honest.

I'm not saying TWilliams has to be cut, but he didn't stand out as the WR1 this year.

If we draft a Braxton Miller than TWill is overpaid as a WR3 or WR4 and that money can be used to sign a CB2 or RB1 or FS. Add his money to Gachkar and DMC and we have a starter somewhere else for 5m cap hit.

We can't keep using good enough as the standard. 5 or 6 average players can pay for 2 good players and a bunch of rookies.
 

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I think most GMs would disagree. Both are easily replaceable for a fraction of the cost.

Our RB1 and our WR1 both had 3 TDs last year. Not good enough.

No, they wouldn't. Suggesting they would makes it hard to take anything else you project seriously. BOTH those guys would get a signing bonus and at least small raises raises in FA.
They aren't being paid a starter's salary so any complaint about them as starters and money is goofy.

Carr is a legit cut candidate. Church with the raise is a consideration if the draft falls a certain way or we see a value in FA.
Other guys are not making enough to warrant releasing.
Free, TWill and DMC all have 1 final year here unless they get injured in camp. We do not have their replacements and even if we did they'd be worth their salaries as back ups.

Moore is a guy who knows the offense well. He may well earn his keep helping the new QB2 learn the system. His 600k is nothing.
Free and Moore both probably end up on the coaching staff soon.

You can remove about 450k in savings for each guy you release if we are below 51 signed players as we would be.
Witten can probably call his shot in retirement. We have no TE2 under contract and TE3 is badly injured right now and he played 99% of the offensive snaps last year.
The thought he gets cut challenges common sense.

Next year's 1st will cost us about 5m, and 2nd about 1m. 3rd round pick around 600k.
Replacing guys won't be cheap.

Anyone with 3 years service will make at least 700k.
 

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You show me skill positions that can successfully score touchdowns with bottom of the league QB play....especially when that wr1 is injured.

I honestly believe we would've scored more touchdowns with Romo and I am sure you would agree with that as well. If you believe that, you must believe that Romo wouldn't have been rushing for those touchdowns. No, McFadden, Bryant, Williams, Bease and Witten would've all benefited from having a QB that can change plays at the line of scrimmage, convert redzone opportunities and keep defenses honest.

you are talking to a person with an agenda.
anyone who suggests terence william's problem is that he doesn't score touchdowns is so far off base it is pointless to debate.

twill has scored 16 receiving TDs in 3 seasons.
with romo and dez in 2014 he had 8....
twill needs to catch the ball with his hands and become reliable on routine, mundane plays; but his big-play ability is enormous.
 

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you are talking to a person with an agenda.
anyone who suggests terence william's problem is that he doesn't score touchdowns is so far off base it is pointless to debate.

twill has scored 16 receiving TDs in 3 seasons.
with romo and dez in 2014 he had 8....
twill needs to catch the ball with his hands and become reliable on routine, mundane plays; but his big-play ability is enormous.

You are just making things up. My only agenda is making the team better. If you don't think TWill can be upgraded you are just a homer or a relative. Same with McFadden.

Unlike you I don't accept mediocrity with no questions asked. If you overpay 10 guys by a million that is 10m you aren't spending on stars.

If we signed Jeffrey or drafted BMiller, then TWill would be behind Dez, Jeffrey, Cole, Witten, RB3 for catches. I can get Butler or Lucky to fill his snaps for under half price.

If we draft Elliott, Henry or Collins or signed LMiller, we can get a Turbin and another draft pick to get 100 carries instead of 2.1m for DMC.

I'm not attached to any of these average players for sentimental reasons. I guess that wounds your tender sensibilities.
 

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No, they wouldn't. Suggesting they would makes it hard to take anything else you project seriously. BOTH those guys would get a signing bonus and at least small raises raises in FA.
They aren't being paid a starter's salary so any complaint about them as starters and money is goofy.

Carr is a legit cut candidate. Church with the raise is a consideration if the draft falls a certain way or we see a value in FA.
Other guys are not making enough to warrant releasing.
Free, TWill and DMC all have 1 final year here unless they get injured in camp. We do not have their replacements and even if we did they'd be worth their salaries as back ups.

Moore is a guy who knows the offense well. He may well earn his keep helping the new QB2 learn the system. His 600k is nothing.
Free and Moore both probably end up on the coaching staff soon.

You can remove about 450k in savings for each guy you release if we are below 51 signed players as we would be.
Witten can probably call his shot in retirement. We have no TE2 under contract and TE3 is badly injured right now and he played 99% of the offensive snaps last year.
The thought he gets cut challenges common sense.

Next year's 1st will cost us about 5m, and 2nd about 1m. 3rd round pick around 600k.
Replacing guys won't be cheap.

Anyone with 3 years service will make at least 700k.

So now Witten, Moore and Free all going to be coaches and that is why they should be given a free ride.

Witten has an 8.5m cap hit. He is not above inspection. Too many nice guys and not enough wins.
 

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These guys are starting to earn more than they contribute. We have up to 9 draft picks and a ton of cap space(up to 40m). Even though some guys are only making 2m or less they can be replaced for a fraction of that.

The only June 1st cut I would make is Carr

Player cut.......Salary Cap Savings
BCarr- 9m
Witten- 4.4m
DFree- 2.5m
Church- 4.2m
McFadden- 2m
Gachkar- 1.3m
Wilcox- 1.6m
TWilliams- 1.6m
TMcClain- 1m
KMoore- 600k
DStreet- 500k

Bye Carr
 

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Cut Carr, Church, Gachkar, and Street, possibly cut Free and Wilcox (depending on if we address S in FA/Draft). D-Mac and T-Will are worth their contracts.
 

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I hope street saved his 500k because that's a good head start on real life. Gotta figure out what career he's gonna be in here soon. Maybe open up a taco stand or something.
 

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You are just making things up. My only agenda is making the team better. If you don't think TWill can be upgraded you are just a homer or a relative. Same with McFadden.

Unlike you I don't accept mediocrity with no questions asked. If you overpay 10 guys by a million that is 10m you aren't spending on stars.

If we signed Jeffrey or drafted BMiller, then TWill would be behind Dez, Jeffrey, Cole, Witten, RB3 for catches. I can get Butler or Lucky to fill his snaps for under half price.

If we draft Elliott, Henry or Collins or signed LMiller, we can get a Turbin and another draft pick to get 100 carries instead of 2.1m for DMC.

I'm not attached to any of these average players for sentimental reasons. I guess that wounds your tender sensibilities.

I suggest you go back to Madden. That's the only place you can make moves like you suggest.
 

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You are just making things up. My only agenda is making the team better. If you don't think TWill can be upgraded you are just a homer or a relative. Same with McFadden.

Unlike you I don't accept mediocrity with no questions asked. If you overpay 10 guys by a million that is 10m you aren't spending on stars.

If we signed Jeffrey or drafted BMiller, then TWill would be behind Dez, Jeffrey, Cole, Witten, RB3 for catches. I can get Butler or Lucky to fill his snaps for under half price.

If we draft Elliott, Henry or Collins or signed LMiller, we can get a Turbin and another draft pick to get 100 carries instead of 2.1m for DMC.

I'm not attached to any of these average players for sentimental reasons. I guess that wounds your tender sensibilities.

You can upgrade the WR spot without cutting Twill who is actually a solid 2 and would make more money if he was cut
You upgrade the guy who has shown nothing like street
If you draft a WR he can compete with twill for the #2
 

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You can upgrade the WR spot without cutting Twill who is actually a solid 2 and would make more money if he was cut
You upgrade the guy who has shown nothing like street
If you draft a WR he can compete with twill for the #2

solid 2? Twill is an average 2, decent 3 at best. a solid 2 should be able to takeover the 1 if the 1 ever goes down. Twill disappeared once Dez went down.
 

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solid 2? Twill is an average 2, decent 3 at best. a solid 2 should be able to takeover the 1 if the 1 ever goes down. Twill disappeared once Dez went down.

Exactly, if I upgrade WR2 then I don't need TWill at all.

I would have Dez, BMiller, Beasley, Witten, RB3 ahead of him for targets. Why would I pay and extra 1m for 10-15 catches. Butler and Lucky are capable depth.

Same with LMiller. If I pay him 4m a year and draft a RB why would I pay DMC 2m if I can pay Turbin 700k?

Add up a million here and a million there and I can sign Weddle for FS.
 

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solid 2? Twill is an average 2, decent 3 at best. a solid 2 should be able to takeover the 1 if the 1 ever goes down. Twill disappeared once Dez went down.

There is a bit more to it than just taking over for an elite reciever. Especially when you don't have a QB
 

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So now Witten, Moore and Free all going to be coaches and that is why they should be given a free ride.

Witten has an 8.5m cap hit. He is not above inspection. Too many nice guys and not enough wins.

I wish I could like this post more than one time.
 
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