CFZ Pre-camp thoughts: Not the same old retread re-run season this time

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I think we are 1 of the top 3 teams in the conference. I think we will win our division and I think we will be the number 1 seed in the playoffs. I want to believe we will win our first playoff game and get to the NFC conference title game, but until I see Dak perform well in that type of game, I just can't bring myself to believe we will get that far. I think the team is good enough. And just because he hasn't done it before doesn't mean he won't do it this year. I am just hoping with this D and the 30% change in the O and a different voice in his ear, Dak can at least just drive the bus and not mess it up.
 

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I just hope they hire or appoint someone to manage the clock, because MM was a bit off on that, even without play calling duties.
To be honest, I think there's one or two head coaches who do that well. The rest of them suck at it. LOL
 

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If we had acquired a quality RB to pair with Pollard…I’d be super excited. We have better depth across the board except at RB. I fear TP will wear down
 

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This is potentially one of the best rosters we have had, so it's a put up or shut up year....I'm tired of all the talking by the owners and QB....show me or else blow this thing up at the end of the year.
 

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This is potentially one of the best rosters we have had, so it's a put up or shut up year....I'm tired of all the talking by the owners and QB....show me or else blow this thing up at the end of the year.
Blow it up? They are set up to be a contender for several years. They just need to sign several of their key players to new contracts and continue to draft well. As far as the talking goes, the media interviews them constantly. What do you want them to do? Boycott the media?
 

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If we had acquired a quality RB to pair with Pollard…I’d be super excited. We have better depth across the board except at RB. I fear TP will wear down
Lets wait until we see Jones and Vaughn in the pre season at least. I think we will be surprised. Also Malik Davies was promising last year. Dowdle the coaches are high on him but we dont know
 

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Haven't even snapped a ball in camp yet, but this promises, or perhaps portends, to be one of the most interesting seasons in Cowboys history.

The league is in a state of flux, and the NFC is in shambles. The best quarterbacks in the NFC are Jalen Hurts and Dak Prescott because the only elite 4 or 5 in the NFL all reside in the other conference. The only NFC teams worth discussion are Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, and maybe Detroit or Seattle. Ain't buying the Minnesota thing anymore. The rest are rebuilding their rebuilds, and flailing away on how they're possibly going to throw the ball with any meaningful consistency.

Then there's us.

Dan Quinn has new toys, which is the thing I'm most excited about. Mazi and Gilmore should make a nice difference, and I'm hopeful Damone Clark and Sam Williams are going to make huge strides this year. I absolutely love how Dallas has FINALLY built an excellent secondary group across the board, and then FINALLY drafted a strong inside tackle to stop the run. The retread thing for years in those two areas proved to be a disaster.

And now, Mike McCarthy is coaching for his job while calling the plays. His hiring made no sense with Kellen Moore still here because McCarthy is a playcaller and always has been. Now we'll get to see that every week, and that will be interesting. He's only called plays for Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers, and while he's certainly had a say in playcalls, he's never been hiding behind that playsheet on the sideline here like he did in Green Bay. And for the record, I think Moore will shine in San Diego with Herbert; this was just an awkward structure here, which Jerry excels at creating.

I'm one who isn't worried about the RB situation at all because I like Malik Davis a lot, and Duece Vaughn will be immediately a factor in his specialized role. That kid is a player. I wouldn't even mind Zeke back on a reasonable contract because he's not as useless as some say. He does important things far better than anyone else in the group.

The offensive line will be good, especially as Tyson Smith becomes truly dominant. Supposedly he's vastly stronger and quicker than before after an intense offseason. I know, injuries are going to happen, but that's true for 32 teams. Dallas fans act like we're in an unlucky bubble that way, and we're just like all the others, and another Tyron injury shouldn't derail this thing altogether. They should be fine.

The receivers and tight ends are plenty solid, and I'm glad Schultz is gone, Cooks is here, and Gallup is another year removed from that injury. Pollard and Vaughn will be big players in the passing game, too.

You all know how I feel about Dak, but know this, too. This team CAN get to a Super Bowl with him at quarterback, especially this year. Will they? I don't think so because I'm still waiting to see him perform against a legitimate playoff team in January. But that doesn't mean he won't this time, and he's got the roster to do it. He doesn't have to be special, just solid. Drive the bus, and don't miss the key throws late. Do that, trust Quinn, and be effective enough in the playoffs to help the running game go and the defense stay fresh. It's been done with non-elite quarterbacks many times before.

I'd damn sure rather have Dak than about 20 of these other gawd awful quarterbacks in this league. (I think every quarterback drafted this year will be a bust.) The Cowboys don't have to go through Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, or Rodgers to get there. There's a very real path to a Super Bowl here.

We're going to win 10+ games because it just isn't that hard to do with a decent roster against this craptastic league. Dallas has a good team. Injuries aside of course, it should waltz to 10-7 and more likely finish a game or two better than that. A midseason trade for Aaron Donald once the Rams go kaput would help matters greatly in the playoffs, so I hope Jerry is listening. And get a good kicker in here, please?

This is a put-up or shut-up season, no doubt, even though Jerry and Stephen I'm sure won't talk about it that way on the yacht during camp. It is. This thing will fray if they don't live up to their pedigree, and guys will start to look for ways out. It needn't come to that, but they'd better get to a conference championship at the very least.

From our coaches, enough has been added and changed to make things intriguing this year differently than the long run of re-runs we've been watching for seasons on end. Here's hoping for success against Philly in the regular season when both teams are full strength to toughen them up for the playoff speed and spotlight that awaits.

Let 'er rip.
Awesome job. Enjoyable read. Appreciate the time you put in typing it. Hard to argue most, if even any of your points as my player opinions align similarly to yours.
Not too homerish optimism and very similar skepticism as mine pointed towards the 2 vital links to team success this year. And that is this head coach and quarterback proving themselves as gameday advantages consistently for an entire year. And of course the playoffs as well.

But again, very nice post.
 

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I mean every game we saw it, in the past couple years, it was not pretty. We saw the lackluster pass blocking and the weakness running up the middle, while seeing him be great running outside.
Who are you talking about? Pollard?

It was not pretty? lackluster pass blocking? Weakness running up the middle?

Looks like all you did was believe the troll lies and didnt watch at all. Pollard is a very capable pass blocker and he runs up the middle better than Zeke did. With power. His numbers were much better than Zeke up the middle.

Pollard can do it all.

Are you really so upset about your hero Zeke that you cant give Pollard his due?
 

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Who are you talking about? Pollard?

It was not pretty? lackluster pass blocking? Weakness running up the middle?

Looks like all you did was believe the troll lies and didnt watch at all. Pollard is a very capable pass blocker and he runs up the middle better than Zeke did. With power. His numbers were much better than Zeke up the middle.

Pollard can do it all.

Are you really so upset about your hero Zeke that you cant give Pollard his due?
Sorry you are tracking straw everywhere and it is hard to see because between your projecting and your strawman arguments it is hard to take anything you said seriously.

For example I did not even mention Zeke but you were so desperate to find a reason that you actually did. Up the middle though they were about the same (within .2 yards and looking at the stats Zeke was slightly ahead but both were bad). So he was demonstrably bad up the middle.

Similarly his pass blocking was not great. I know you have the blinders on but it was not good. Lets not pretend it was.

Pollard was excellent, arguably best in the league, at running outside because with burst he could get around the block and while he certainly did not have the best hands, he could make plays receiving when he caught the ball. Those were his strengths but when you pretend that things he was provably bad at he was not, it just makes you look foolish.
 

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Sorry you are tracking straw everywhere and it is hard to see because between your projecting and your strawman arguments it is hard to take anything you said seriously.

For example I did not even mention Zeke but you were so desperate to find a reason that you actually did. Up the middle though they were about the same (within .2 yards and looking at the stats Zeke was slightly ahead but both were bad). So he was demonstrably bad up the middle.

Similarly his pass blocking was not great. I know you have the blinders on but it was not good. Lets not pretend it was.

Pollard was excellent, arguably best in the league, at running outside because with burst he could get around the block and while he certainly did not have the best hands, he could make plays receiving when he caught the ball. Those were his strengths but when you pretend that things he was provably bad at he was not, it just makes you look foolish.
Where are you getting these laughable stats? Pollard was much better in expected yards per run up the middle, outside, everywhere.

Pollard also rated out as a better pass blocker in 2022.

Zeke apologists like you are soo angry that Pollard made a complete joke out of you and Zeke that you continue to make up and spew lies.

YAWN..................................READ IT AND Go Crawl Back Under Your hole!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...unning-back-and-heres-why-the-debate-is-over/

Time for Cowboys to face facts: Tony Pollard is their best running back, and here's why the debate is over​



Anybody who tells you that he can't run the ball up the middle or run with power or gain the tough yards is either lying to you, or lying to themselves. It helps that we've also actually seen him do it over and over. He may look slight, but Pollard is a sturdy, 6-foot, 209 pounds. (By way of comparison, Dalvin Cook is 5-10, 210; Miles Sanders is 5-11, 211; and Alvin Kamara is 5-10, 215. In other words, he's similarly-sized to plenty of lead backs about whom nobody really has real questions regarding their ability to make those types of runs.) And he packs some power into that frame, allowing him to break tackles, drag the pile forward, or simply run through defenders.

You can explain most running back production by looking at the quality of blocking he gets, but according to just about any measurement of production that is actually within the back's control, he's a top-5 to top-10 player at the position. Yards per carry? Pollard's 6.03 rank second among the 50 backs with 50-plus carries this season. (The only one ahead of him is Rashaad Penny, who hasn't played since Week 5.) Success rate? His 42.7% mark ranks 10th, according to Tru Media. Avoiding negative runs? Pollard's been stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage just 12.6% of the time, 10th-best among that group. Explosive gains? His 12.6% explosive-carry rate ranks fifth. Yards after contact? His 4.49 per-carry average is best in the league by a long shot. (And nearly half a yard more per carry than Elliott averages overall. Sheesh.) Yards gained on first-down runs? He's at 5.4 per carry, ninth-best. Yards gained against stacked boxes? Also 5.4 per carry, which is fourth-best. Short-yardage conversion rate? The league average is 66.3%, but Pollard has converted 75% of the time. All this despite a yards before contact per carry average of just 1.53, which ranks 18th among the same group of players.


Facts are stubborn things!!!!!!!!!
 

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So many changes , hard to predict, but I think the key is who wins the east, phil or dallas?
When dallas plays phil the 1st time which one wins? do they split? or does one sweep.
And will both qb's play in those games lol, sucked that last year dak and hurts did not play against each other.
 

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Sorry you are tracking straw everywhere and it is hard to see because between your projecting and your strawman arguments it is hard to take anything you said seriously.

For example I did not even mention Zeke but you were so desperate to find a reason that you actually did. Up the middle though they were about the same (within .2 yards and looking at the stats Zeke was slightly ahead but both were bad). So he was demonstrably bad up the middle.

Similarly his pass blocking was not great. I know you have the blinders on but it was not good. Lets not pretend it was.

Pollard was excellent, arguably best in the league, at running outside because with burst he could get around the block and while he certainly did not have the best hands, he could make plays receiving when he caught the ball. Those were his strengths but when you pretend that things he was provably bad at he was not, it just makes you look foolish.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

The most common criticism of Pollard's game is of his pass-blocking. Well, let's just say it appears out of date. There are 40 running backs who have pass-blocked on at least 20 snaps this season, according to Pro Football Focus. Pollard ranks third among that group in pass-blocking grade, and has allowed only two pressures on his 33 pass-blocking snaps. It's notable that his pass-blocking grade was about equal to Elliott's last season and is far better this year (Zeke ranks 17th out of the group of 50, which is still pretty good), and also that the Cowboys have kept him in to block on a greater share of his passing-down snaps (20%) than they have Elliott (17.2%), indicating that they indeed trust him just as much, if not more than the starter in those situations.

Tell me who looks like the fool now?
 
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If we had acquired a quality RB to pair with Pollard…I’d be super excited. We have better depth across the board except at RB. I fear TP will wear down
I was disappointed too. Just to protect Tony and allow him to last the entire season and be fresh for the playoffs.
 
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