Prescott: On His Future Deal With Cowboys

blueblood70

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They signed him with intentions of extending him. I think that’s why JJ didn’t sign him earlier because he wanted to be sure it’s his guy. Whether we like it or not.

He looked very unhappy after the game sealing int that Dak threw. But after he cools down he still believes in him. So he will give him more weapons and new scheme. If more weapons and a SB winning HC calling the plays don’t work then he may blow it all up. But I doubt it. If he wanted a new QB he could throw his hat in the ring for lamar. I don’t see him doing that.
maybe, just maybe, he saw Trevor Lawarence throw 5 INTs in the playoffs, Josh allen 3ints plus a Fumble, plus fumble out of bounds, burrows throw 2 INT , year before Stafford lead the league in INts plus throw 2 in the SB.. odd an ironic fan can't see qbs all make mistakes and many times their teams can still come out with win.. He most likely recognizes how 75% of the league struggles to find a qb that can come into the league get ROTY, have no losing season, be in the playoffs 4 of 6 seasons, have 167 tds 26 rushing tds, and ONLY 65 CAREER INTS..

Daks metrics are obvious, hes top 10 but fans seem to not understand how hard that would be to replace,

they hate dak so much they rather SUFFER searching for the next QB to even be on that level. did you all forget the 13 spares ran through here and the losing records we had from Aikman to Romo.do you need a reminder, you gluten for punishment?? have you not saw the other teams suffering for decades like browns, jets , broncos and many others that gave up in the draft and now overpay yes you think Daks deal was bad close your eyes and imagine giving up 4 high draft picks and 170+mil guaranteed for a vet payer like Wilson or 250mil guaranteed for Watson, and still lose.. how about paying Kyler more then dak and hes done less 189mil guaranteed, how about payers like Trey lance got what 3 1sts and now when hes 3rd on the depth chart, thats barely scratching the surface on how many other teams are in far worse situations then we are with Dak because all we gave up for dak was 4th rounder and 120mil guaranteed and hes at least top 5 in wins since 16 with no losing seasons and 4 playoff berths.

let alone, 50% of the league having terrible qbs..Maybe just maybe Jerrys smart enough to realize while dak has warts those QBS i mentioned above leaving out the top 5 highest paid qbs didn't even make the playoff to make those mistakes, also leaving out most were taken in the first round whereas Dak was taken in the 4th and his contract is not that bad in the grand scheme of things.



is it the fans believe perfect qb exist, believe that its a given that when dak leaves the next guy takes us further immodestly, or in reality Jerry knows none of that exists and top 10 qb who can play this game at a high level may not be elite but Dak is whats best for this team at the moment and the window is still hope to finally get over the NFCCG slump hump..

also, im betting if the 90s Cowboys took Emmitt smith and that OL out of a game that Troy would not have been troy.. that what daks been given the last 2 playoff losses to the 9ers NO RUN GAME , weak OL blocking and one playmaker in Lamb doing anything positive.

we saw 22s holdout an 0-2 start , ironic huh.. yet Daks supposed top do more with less as if Troy and emmitts never been the top paid payers in their eras?? its team game folks think hard how well that 90s team would do if ES22 was hurt and the OL was shuffled and shaky and thats all troy had to work with.. it wouldn't be pretty, bTW Troy had 141INTS in his career to only 165 tds..let that sink in but and dont claim era. mistakes are mistakes hew as alo not perfect but what he had was HOF OL, coach, RB, FB, a great TE, MI, and defense that featured soem HOFers as well.
TEAM GAME .....

that's how i see it most fans with football iq looks around the league and see that none of the above i already mentioned.
 

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if im dallas, i play him this year at his current contract with the new scheme and if it fails hes gone...no extension
Unfortunately the FO does not have any foresight, Dak forced them to put out a 4 year deal, they should have planned to draft QBs in the mid rounds and later the last 2 years in preparation of moving on. They should have done what Baltimore did with Lamar.
 

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Unfortunately the FO does not have any foresight, Dak forced them to put out a 4 year deal, they should have planned to draft QBs in the mid rounds and later the last 2 years in preparation of moving on. They should have done what Baltimore did with Lamar.
Exactly right.

It’s tough to use draft picks on a developmental QB when you rely on mid round picks to fill gaping holes.

Their plan….the one that they act is foolproof…is counterproductive on several levels….but don’t go trying to tell THEM that.

I doubt there’s anyone in the building that isn’t a yes man.
 

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Unfortunately the FO does not have any foresight, Dak forced them to put out a 4 year deal, they should have planned to draft QBs in the mid rounds and later the last 2 years in preparation of moving on. They should have done what Baltimore did with Lamar.
Yup, and now that means they either holdfast and take a 30m dead cap hit and put a first towards a qb in 2024 or they extend him and risk an anchor to the franchise for a long time to come.

Again, I hope dak does great and this is moot
 

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Right but if dak agrees to the trade is it negated?
yes, if dak agrees to a trade it is ok, but the only way he might agree to it is if they benched him for rush or someone they draft in april.
Dak could refuse and sit on the bench, or agree, and get to start on new team.
They could also ask him to take a paycut on current salary, and if he says no bench him. let him know take a paycut or your on the bench.
Then try to win with rush or qb you draft, like duggan, and if you lose early on tank and get a high pick for 2024.

But no way jones boys would have the you know what to do that lol.

It is going to be 6 more years of dak. Maybe by 2030 dallas will try for another qb lol.
I am predicting he asks for 50-55 mil on extension, as he will be looking at qb price, and cap raises 4 years from now.
 
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Dak is going to be here at the very least 4 more years, love it or hate it, doesn't matter. Jerry, Stephen and McCarthy all want him here and he will be extended probably before the opening of free agency. Those are just the facts!
 

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yes, if dak agrees to a trade it is ok, but the only way he might agree to it is if they benched him for rush or someone they draft in april.
Dak could refuse and sit on the bench, or agree, and get to start on new team.
They could also ask him to take a paycut on current salary, and if he says no bench him. let him know take a paycut or your on the bench.
Then try to win with rush or qb you draft, like duggan, and if you lose early on tank and get a high pick for 2024.

But no way jones boys would have the you know what to do that lol.

It is going to be 6 more years of dak. Maybe by 2030 dallas will try for another qb lol.
I am predicting he asks for 50-55 mil on extension, as he will be looking at qb price, and cap raises 4 years from now.
i just threw up a little....thats just a stupid ammount of money.....oh well, guess i am going to start joining the "hope they win one before i die" crew....im only 40, sigh
 

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The problem is who are you going to find to replace him? He is good enough to take the team into the playoffs.
Fair point. Flip side is Cooper Rush, a practice squad level quarterback went 4-1 with the same team as Prescott last season so it's not really saying much that Prescott can take the team to the play offs as so could Rush based on those 5 games last season.

In other words, let's draft a QB within the first 2-3 rounds
maybe, just maybe, he saw Trevor Lawarence throw 5 INTs in the playoffs, Josh allen 3ints plus a Fumble, plus fumble out of bounds, burrows throw 2 INT , year before Stafford lead the league in INts plus throw 2 in the SB.. odd an ironic fan can't see qbs all make mistakes and many times their teams can still come out with win.. He most likely recognizes how 75% of the league struggles to find a qb that can come into the league get ROTY, have no losing season, be in the playoffs 4 of 6 seasons, have 167 tds 26 rushing tds, and ONLY 65 CAREER INTS..

Daks metrics are obvious, hes top 10 but fans seem to not understand how hard that would be to replace,

they hate dak so much they rather SUFFER searching for the next QB to even be on that level. did you all forget the 13 spares ran through here and the losing records we had from Aikman to Romo.do you need a reminder, you gluten for punishment?? have you not saw the other teams suffering for decades like browns, jets , broncos and many others that gave up in the draft and now overpay yes you think Daks deal was bad close your eyes and imagine giving up 4 high draft picks and 170+mil guaranteed for a vet payer like Wilson or 250mil guaranteed for Watson, and still lose.. how about paying Kyler more then dak and hes done less 189mil guaranteed, how about payers like Trey lance got what 3 1sts and now when hes 3rd on the depth chart, thats barely scratching the surface on how many other teams are in far worse situations then we are with Dak because all we gave up for dak was 4th rounder and 120mil guaranteed and hes at least top 5 in wins since 16 with no losing seasons and 4 playoff berths.

let alone, 50% of the league having terrible qbs..Maybe just maybe Jerrys smart enough to realize while dak has warts those QBS i mentioned above leaving out the top 5 highest paid qbs didn't even make the playoff to make those mistakes, also leaving out most were taken in the first round whereas Dak was taken in the 4th and his contract is not that bad in the grand scheme of things.



is it the fans believe perfect qb exist, believe that its a given that when dak leaves the next guy takes us further immodestly, or in reality Jerry knows none of that exists and top 10 qb who can play this game at a high level may not be elite but Dak is whats best for this team at the moment and the window is still hope to finally get over the NFCCG slump hump..

also, im betting if the 90s Cowboys took Emmitt smith and that OL out of a game that Troy would not have been troy.. that what daks been given the last 2 playoff losses to the 9ers NO RUN GAME , weak OL blocking and one playmaker in Lamb doing anything positive.

we saw 22s holdout an 0-2 start , ironic huh.. yet Daks supposed top do more with less as if Troy and emmitts never been the top paid payers in their eras?? its team game folks think hard how well that 90s team would do if ES22 was hurt and the OL was shuffled and shaky and thats all troy had to work with.. it wouldn't be pretty, bTW Troy had 141INTS in his career to only 165 tds..let that sink in but and dont claim era. mistakes are mistakes hew as alo not perfect but what he had was HOF OL, coach, RB, FB, a great TE, MI, and defense that featured soem HOFers as well.
TEAM GAME .....

that's how i see it most fans with football iq looks around the league and see that none of the above i already mentioned.
Such a one sided biased post I had to respond to provide a reality check.

You make statements to fit your narrative such as Stafford led the league in interceptions before winning the Superbowl...yes 17 interceptions but he also threw 41 touchdowns and almost 5000 yards - just minor details. Prescott threw 15 interceptions and 23 touchdowns and didn't even reach 3000 yards In 12 games last season.

You give examples of other quarterback situations that haven't worked out yet how about other examples where the Cowboy could have moved on from Prescott. Drafting Hurts in the 2nd round rather than Diggs or giving the Chargers our 1st round pick (Lamb) and Prescott to move up and bag Herbert on a rookie contract. I banging the drum to draft Hurts and many posters suggested the Herbert move.

Let's also judge Wilson after this season and Trey Lance was he has had an opportunity to start more than four games.

There was very little difference between the running game for both the 49ers and the Cowboys in the play off loss last season. Sure, the offensive line blocking could have been better but the reality is that it was good enough to win the game but Prescott was unable to execute. He was only sacked once in the game - this wasn't an Atalanta Falcond Adrian Clayborne type game. The Cowboys offense only put up 12 points. Just not good enough. Prescott missed key throws whether underthrown or inaccurate and you can blame the lack of weapons but the plays were there to be made but Prescott came up short.

Most teams that have struggled with changing quarterbacks have sinply been bad teams and the quality at quarterback wouldn't have elevated them to the Superbowl any way. On the flip side you don't mention teams that moved on from similar quarterbacks to Prescott like the Rams from Goff to Stafford = Superbowl ring, the Chiefs from Smith to Mahomes = Superbowl ring, the Eagles from Wentz post acl injury to Hurts = Superbowl appearance. I appreciate there's a risk but you either stick or twist. Have we not seen enough of this movie after 7 years to understand that Dak Prescott is not the quarterback to lead the Cowboys to a Superbowl ring? The

You kept stating Prescott is a top 10 QB when the majority of lists have him outside the top 10. At best he's a borderline top 10 QB along with the likes of Cousins and Carr.

Prescott doesn't win games on his own. As you mention it's a team game. The very same team Prescott went 8-4 with during the regular season, Cooper Rush a practice squad level QB went 4-1. The strong indication there is the Cowboys have a strong roster regardless of the QB.

The one point I do agree with you on is the importance of the offensive line. Josh Allen has largely played behind a trash offensive line his entire nfl career, Joe Burrow behind an even worse offensive line. Lawrence plays behind a largely bad o line whilst on the whole Prescott has played behind a very good offensive line over his 7 years. Ironically the Cowboys' offensive line was dreadful in 2020 but he only played a few games before injury and he had Zack Martin unlike Andy Dalton and he even had a higher winning % than Prescott that season with an even weaker o line. But I'm objective and appreciate the defense stepped up and played their part in those wins it wasn't Dalton playing amazing well but just driving the bus...similar to another QB when at his most effective...
 

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Fair point. Flip side is Cooper Rush, a practice squad level quarterback went 4-1 with the same team as Prescott last season so it's not really saying much that Prescott can take the team to the play offs as so could Rush based on those 5 games last season.

In other words, let's draft a QB within the first 2-3 rounds
I know that Rush played pretty good in those games but I honestly believe he also had a better defense. The opposing teams offense didn't score very well which helped him out a great deal. Regardless, Rush did a great job. As the season went on, the D started to lose several players due to injury. I am not making excuses for Dak because in the SF game, they held them to what 19 points.
 

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Yup, and now that means they either holdfast and take a 30m dead cap hit and put a first towards a qb in 2024 or they extend him and risk an anchor to the franchise for a long time to come.

Again, I hope dak does great and this is moot
Not necessarily a 1st but not 5th and below either. Honestly with the luck they have had with 2nd rounders a QB that slips out of the 1st into the 2nd might be good idea since most of the 2nds in recent history sit year 1 anyways due to a health issue from college.
 

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..maybe, what Dak needed was better OC. Will see this year.
 

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Not necessarily a 1st but not 5th and below either. Honestly with the luck they have had with 2nd rounders a QB that slips out of the 1st into the 2nd might be good idea since most of the 2nds in recent history sit year 1 anyways due to a health issue from college.
who the heck knows, obviously you can find one anywhere at any point in the draft but chances become higher the closer you are to the top....I just think this team has to be ready to make the call to pull the plug and not simply extend bc they prefer that over a 30m dead cap hit....i get it, thats a lot but if he doesnt break through this year then something has to give...
 

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who the heck knows, obviously you can find one anywhere at any point in the draft but chances become higher the closer you are to the top....I just think this team has to be ready to make the call to pull the plug and not simply extend bc they prefer that over a 30m dead cap hit....i get it, thats a lot but if he doesnt break through this year then something has to give...
They have 2 more years on Dak's contract, if he can't do it this year, have drafted guy or a FA like Mike White or whoever that is young in the back pocket to use his last year as a bridge and go into a soft re-build.
 

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They could get around it, again if the team went to Dak and said "We dont want you anymore" he would agree to hear trade offers, he may be pickky but he would allow a trade...they dont want to trade him.....
I'm so sick of hearing about the no trade clause. Bench him or bring in his replacement and he'll ask to be traded.
 

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He’s under contract for the next 2 years. Why is this even a story? Especially after the end of last season. Play out the deal before and see if he can improve.
 
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