Prescott vs Wilson

[The Realist]

Then take his 4th quarter and OT rating to validate his late game performance.

It is off the charts.

That’s because of Romo.

 

[Birdgang]

What’s Dak’s 4th quarter/OT rating, around 96?

nothing is wrong with it to be honest . But too many try to make it something that its not.

 

[plasticman]

There will be no single down in which Wilson and Dak are both on the field

It will be Wilson & Co against the Cowboy defense with Dak & Co against the Seahawks defense.

Hopefully the Cowboy defense will rise to the occasion . I don't think the Seahawks have played against linebackers like that.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Give Dak Russell's defense those first 2 years and Dak wins a super bowl as a rookie.

this is based on what, out of curiosity?

 

[Chrispierce]

Wilson isn’t missing wide open WRs for TDs,and throwing what should be pick 6’s like Dak keeps doing. That’s the difference.

 

[The Realist]

Wilson isn’t missing wide open WRs for TDs,and throwing what should be pick 6’s like Dak keeps doing. That’s the difference.

So Wilson’s misses and picks are one someone else?

Malcom Butler says hello!!

Five picks vs GB 2016


Luke Kuchely pick 6 playoffs 2016


Desmond King pick 6 2018


Prince Amukamara pick 6 2018

 

[Chrispierce]

So Wilson’s misses and picks are one someone else?

Malcom Butler says hello!!

Five picks vs GB 2016


Luke Kuchely pick 6 playoffs 2016


Desmond King pick 6 2018


Prince Amukamara pick 6 2018

That’s not the context of what I’m referring to,and you know it.

 

[The Realist]

That’s not the context of what I’m referring to,and you know it.

Then please explain?

 

[Chrispierce]

Then please explain?

It means Wilson isn’t missing Cooper on those two easy plays last week. In fact I’m rewatching the Giants game right now,and he has 3 major boneheaded throws,you don’t want to see from any starting QB. How the hell does he miss these guys? I don’t see this as much watching other games.

 

[The Realist]

It means Wilson isn’t missing Cooper on those two easy plays last week. In fact I’m rewatching the Giants game right now,and he has 3 major boneheaded throws,you don’t want to see from any starting QB. How the hell does he miss these guys? I don’t see this as much watching other games.

You’re delusional if you think Dak is the only one misses on deep balls. Did you see the Rogers vid someone posted in another thread? Russell threw picks in one game. You’re problem is you hold Dak to a standard that you don’t hold other QB’s to.

 

[Chrispierce]

You’re delusional if you think Dak is the only one misses on deep balls. Did you see the Rogers vid someone posted in another thread? Russell threw picks in one game. You’re problem is you hold Dak to a standard that you don’t hold other QB’s to.

No,you’re not being honest. You’re a Dak homer.

 

[Dre11]

this is based on what, out of curiosity?

Based on the fact, the defense not getting a stop when needed. If Dak had Russell defense they would've been in the super bowl. The only thing that held that team back in 2016 was the defense.

 

[Dre11]

So the QB can’t win games on his own?

Interesting since one of the arguments that people make for why Dak is so good is because he “wins”.

None of them win alone, but it's how theyre judged, yoi know that, Don't be disingenuous.

 

[The Realist]

No,you’re not being honest. You’re a Dak homer.

So no other QB’s but Dak miss some of those throws?

 

[Fletch]

Yeah cause Wilson never made plays to get them to a victory did he.

By the way, In those years I never thought Wilson was some great Qb but he did make plays consistently. Dak does not make plays consistently.

Nope he just goes toe to toe against Aaron Rodgers his first playoff game. Dang near pulls it off.

And he just wins. Weird.

 

[Dre11]

This was brought up in the other thread: Dak slobberers continue to be clueless that the NFL QB numbers shoot up every year.

Wilson (2012-2014)
Yards per attempt: 3rd
Adjusted Net yards per attempt: 5th
QB Rating: 5th
Completion %: 10th
TD %: 4th
INT %: 8th

Prescott (2016-2018)
Yards per attempt: 14th
Adjusted Net yards per attempt: 13th
QB Rating: 11th
Completion %: 8th
TD %: 14th
INT %: 8th

This doesn’t totally invalidate the premise that Dak could improve and be a good QB as his numbers are respectable, but there is still a significant gap between the two. Wilson was pretty much a star right away; Dak is a dink and dunk

This was brought up in the other thread: Dak slobberers continue to be clueless that the NFL QB numbers shoot up every year.

Wilson (2012-2014)
Yards per attempt: 3rd
Adjusted Net yards per attempt: 5th
QB Rating: 5th
Completion %: 10th
TD %: 4th
INT %: 8th

Prescott (2016-2018)
Yards per attempt: 14th
Adjusted Net yards per attempt: 13th
QB Rating: 11th
Completion %: 8th
TD %: 14th
INT %: 8th

This doesn’t totally invalidate the premise that Dak could improve and be a good QB as his numbers are respectable, but there is still a significant gap between the two. Wilson was pretty much a star right away; Dak is a dink and dunk guy.

Stop look at percentages, look at the production period, the production is nearly the same.

 

[Dre11]

It's not just that. They're only showing counting stats, not rate stats as you did. Why? Because Dak threw the ball 200+ more times than Wilson in order to reach similar counting stats. (Of course, Wilson ran for 900 more yards, but they don't seem to pay attention to that one).

Who cares how many times more he threw the ball, it's the end result that matter. Zeke can carry the ball 5 times for 100 yards, Barkley can carry 1 for a 100, at the end of the day it's still 100 yards.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

No,you’re not being honest. You’re a Dak homer.

After the Giants game the Dak-Homers have come out in droves.....its only a matter of time till they go back into their Dak-Holes and then resurface blaming everyone except Dak why the offense once again esp the passing game stunk up the house....

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Based on the fact, the defense not getting a stop when needed. If Dak had Russell defense they would've been in the super bowl. The only thing that held that team back in 2016 was the defense.

Well the defense is not always going to get a stop when needed, not even that Seattle defense of the past. The quarterback needs to be able to make plays to overcome that, which is something Russell can do. 2016 Dak could do it too, but it's something that he lost now, or hasn't been seen from him lately.

 

[Chrispierce]

So no other QB’s but Dak miss some of those throws?

That’s the argument you keep wanting to make my post as,but it’s not what it’s about. Why don’t you pull up the Giants game I’m watching,and tell me what 4 specific passes really look troubling to you? And these are mistakes he makes nearly every game. It’s about the severity of his throws. They aren’t just bad,they’re down right awful. Wilson is a much more polished,and mechanicly sound QB. He’s not missing Cooper on these throws,and I don’t know why you keep insisting he is or that this is a normal thing in the business,when it’s not.