Pretending I Am the GM

[DallasEast]

Sorry for interrupting the thread, but I'm still curious.

JordanTaber, could you critique the following article? You ignored it the first time it was posted. As the forum's resident Terrell Owens expert, I would really value your opinion of it. Thanks.

Article--> http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2566576&postcount=104

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Yeah, I based it on what I had seen. I probably haven't seen every post by everybody. He has weathered a little storm tonight with out giving as good as he got in the insult department. Hasn't he?

You better find some context before making Jordan Taber some kind of martyr. In his world, to offer even the slightest opposition to Owens is to make yourself a fool, a nobody, and whatever insult happens to flash to his brain. I invite you to do your reading. Judge for yourself.

 

[Hostile]

TO's talking is pretty harmless. I guess some player could be weak-minded enough to be distressed by it (I know some fans are) but I doubt that player contributes in a significant way.

The media says he is a problem but on March 1 we will see what the people closest to the situation have to say. He'll get a roster bonus or he won't. That will tell you what you need to know, of course you can continue to look foolish acting as though you know better, but in reality, the truth will come out then.


But feel free to continue ranting about something you can't change.

Randy White, Cliff Harris, and Darren Woodson are all weak minded?

Wow.

I simply don't agree.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Sorry for interrupting the thread, but I'm still curious.

JordanTaber, could you critique the following article? You ignored it the first time it was posted. As the forum's resident Terrell Owens expert, I would really value your opinion of it. Thanks.

Article--> http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2566576&postcount=104

What's the matter for you? This guy was the devil... I mean the media.
And those quotes were twisted. And those guys weren't even REAL players.
You know it's coming.

 

[JordanTaber]

Every comment I would even attempt to post will be discarded by the Church of TO with some kind of "it doesn't matter" mumbo jumbo.

I've seen your act. I can't be converted to your religion. I actually have a number to reach TO and have talked to him. I don't dislike the guy. I don't dislike him at all.

But I am not going to ignore every article, comment, and opinion that the locker room is a divided mess. I'm simply not that stupid. Your word over NFL experts? Don't flatter yourself. That's as lopsided as Janet Reno vs. Jessica Simpson in a wet t-shirt contest.

Overall, he is a good guy. I said in the very first post that he is a fantastic talent. If he ran his routes as crisply as he runs his mouth he'd be one of the greatest players ever, never mind one of the greatest WRs.

He needs to shut up. Period. If he doesn't shut up the team he is on will never win a Super Bowl and his childish shenanigans will be a symptom of that. Not the primary cause, not the only problem, or any other hyperbole you want to try and throw out there to try and say I think he is the ONLY problem on the Dallas Cowboys or even the main problem.

He is a problem. One of many. What is his problem? He can't shut up.

There was no good reason to do the Deion interview. Not one. You cannot defend that as a good choice. You can try, but it will be brainless church of TO blather that will not sell another living soul who isn't already a convert.

You want to try me, by all means have at it. But come with something substantive. The crap you've slung against the wall for 450+ posts is beyond boring and it flat out isn't going to cut it. You're out of your league if you think that screed impresses me.

I get it that you think the guy walks on water. I get it that you think he is the alpha male of all time. If you can't accept the good with the bad and be realistic, you've got nothing. That's all I have seen so far, a whole lot of nothing.

The 3 best wins of the season?

1. Nov. 16th @ Washington. Player of the game, Marion Barber who pounded the Skins to death. TO? 38 yards receiving.

2. Dec. 14 vs. New York. Player of the game, Tashard Choice who led us in rushing and receiving. TO? 38 yards receiving.

3. Oct. 26 vs. Tampa Bay. Difference in the game, the Defense who stepped up in the absence of Tony Romo. TO? 33 yards receiving.

Those were are 3 biggest wins this year. Crucial games at crucial times. All won without TO being the monster. Proof this team can win without him if they do the 2 things I said in the OP.

1. Run the ball to control the clock.
2. Play aggressive Defense.

Good luck with your sermon. I hope I don't fall asleep. Don't pass the collection plate. It'll come back empty.

I'm not trying to "impress" you. How arrogant can you be?

The only point of contention I have with you is your assertion that him talking to the media results in losing. I (and many others) find that claim to be ridiculous.

Sure, the media wants you to think that they determine the outcome of games. They're arrogant enough to actually believe that.

Tony Romo doesn't. Does he also need to "learn the game?" Tony Romo was laughing when he was talking to John Madden about how everyone assumed they would lose the Giants game because of all the ESPN garbage. Romo thought they were going to win. He was right. ESPN was wrong.

Other players can use the "locker room" excuse that the media hands them, but that's all it is; an excuse.

And you seem to be unable to discern between them being upset over the ESPN story because of the idea that there's a snitch, and them being upset at Terrell Owens.

I doubt the players cared about his interview with Deion because he didn't really say anything. Maybe Jason Garrett took offense, but he's not exactly part of the locker room...and it's becoming evident he's not very popular among many of the offensive players as an offensive coordinator.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, I based it on what I had seen. I probably haven't seen every post by everybody. He has weathered a little storm tonight with out giving as good as he got in the insult department. Hasn't he?

I guess you didn't see this post which was his introduction to the points of my thread.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2571954&postcount=213

Yeah, I should just hold his hand and coddle him and not say anything back to him at all that is snippy. Maybe I shoudl serve some rainbow sherbet, pecan sandies cookies and green tea and we can just make it a Kumbaya party.

I hadn't said a word to him before that post. Check your facts at the door.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not trying to "impress" you. How arrogant can you be?

The only point of contention I have with you is your assertion that him talking to the media results in losing. I (and many others) find that claim to be ridiculous.

Sure, the media wants you to think that they determine the outcome of games. They're arrogant enough to actually believe that.

Tony Romo doesn't. Does he also need to "learn the game?" Tony Romo was laughing when he was talking to John Madden about how everyone assumed they would lose the Giants game because of all the ESPN garbage. Romo thought they were going to win. He was right. ESPN was wrong.

Other players can use the "locker room" excuse that the media hands them, but that's all it is; an excuse.

And you seem to be unable to discern between them being upset over the ESPN story because of the idea that there's a snitch, and them being upset at Terrell Owens.

I doubt the players cared about his interview with Deion because he didn't really say anything. Maybe Jason Garrett took offense, but he's not exactly part of the locker room...and it's becoming evident he's not very popular among many of the offensive players as an offensive coordinator.

I said his constant whining is a symptom of the losing atmosphere. BTW, I was one of his biggest defenders when Werder's non story broke. Still am. That doesn't change the fact that he invites backlash and it affects others on the team. Learn to read.

Oh, and thanks for proving me right. The part in bold is exactly what I predicted I'd get fromt he church of TO.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Randy White, Cliff Harris, and Darren Woodson are all weak minded?

Wow.

I simply don't agree.

You know, Hos, this is what bothers me. The Cowboys have always been bigger than the individual. Dallas moved on without Duane Thomas, the single most gifted running back I ever saw, save maybe Jim Brown. When Randy White (RANDY WHITE) held out, the team prepared to move on without him. When Ed Jones decided to go boxing, they moved on... until he returned. Don Meredith was said to have been disappointed Landry didn't offer more in an attempt to have him stay.

The team has always been the thing. Now I'm supposed to believe Owens -- about whom I've had mixed feelings, since I do think he is treated unfairly -- is bigger than this football team. He is our "Big Play" threat. He is indispensible.

Please.

Yes, the salary cap changes things. But when Duane Thomas had to be released, there was no free agency. The only hope was a draft choice. Fortunately one of those turned into Tony Dorsett.

Even before that, though, the Cowboys had some post-sphynx success. The team.

 

[JordanTaber]

Sorry for interrupting the thread, but I'm still curious.

JordanTaber, could you critique the following article? You ignored it the first time it was posted. As the forum's resident Terrell Owens expert, I would really value your opinion of it. Thanks.

Article--> http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2566576&postcount=104

Not sure what point you're trying to get across with that article.

Owens was a distraction in 2005 because he was TRYING to be. He was upset over the way the Eagles handled his contract demands.

You should also note that those are all the same guys who showed up at his birthday party. Those guys liked him.

N.D. Kalu and others can cop the "chemistry" excuse if they wish, but that team lost because Donovan McNabb got hurt. If they had won the Super Bowl that year, are they saying the same things? Or did that situation make it impossible for them to win?

 

[bbgun]

I guess you didn't see this post which was his introduction to the points of my thread.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2571954&postcount=213

Yeah, I should just hold his hand and coddle him and not say anything back to him at all that is snippy. Maybe I shoudl serve some rainbow sherbet, pecan sandies cookies and green tea and we can just make it a Kumbaya party.

Don't forget the ladyfingers. Oh, and some delightful watercress sandwiches if it's not too much trouble.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I'm not trying to "impress" you. How arrogant can you be?

The only point of contention I have with you is your assertion that him talking to the media results in losing. I (and many others) find that claim to be ridiculous.

Sure, the media wants you to think that they determine the outcome of games. They're arrogant enough to actually believe that.

Tony Romo doesn't. Does he also need to "learn the game?" Tony Romo was laughing when he was talking to John Madden about how everyone assumed they would lose the Giants game because of all the ESPN garbage. Romo thought they were going to win. He was right. ESPN was wrong.

Other players can use the "locker room" excuse that the media hands them, but that's all it is; an excuse.

And you seem to be unable to discern between them being upset over the ESPN story because of the idea that there's a snitch, and them being upset at Terrell Owens.

I doubt the players cared about his interview with Deion because he didn't really say anything. Maybe Jason Garrett took offense, but he's not exactly part of the locker room...and it's becoming evident he's not very popular among many of the offensive players as an offensive coordinator.

The thing didn't end with the Giants game, did it? That ballgame where NY was dealing with its own distractions? A few other games were played. Right? How did they turn out?

 

[DallasEast]

You know, Hos, this is what bothers me. The Cowboys have always been bigger than the individual. Dallas moved on without Duane Thomas, the single most gifted running back I ever saw, save maybe Jim Brown. When Randy White (RANDY WHITE) held out, the team prepared to move on without him. When Ed Jones decided to go boxing, they moved on... until he returned. Don Meredith was said to have been disappointed Landry didn't offer more in an attempt to have him stay.

The team has always been the thing. Now I'm supposed to believe Owens -- about whom I've had mixed feelings, since I do think he is treated unfairly -- is bigger than this football team. He is our "Big Play" threat. He is indispensible.

Please.

Yes, the salary cap changes things. But when Duane Thomas had to be released, there was no free agency. The only hope was a draft choice. Fortunately one of those turned into Tony Dorsett.

Even before that, though, the Cowboys had some post-sphynx success. The team.

:clap2:

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Not sure what point you're trying to get across with that article.

Owens was a distraction in 2005 because he was TRYING to be. He was upset over the way the Eagles handled his contract demands.

You should also note that those are all the same guys who showed up at his birthday party. Those guys liked him.

N.D. Kalu and others can cop the "chemistry" excuse if they wish, but that team lost because Donovan McNabb got hurt. If they had won the Super Bowl that year, are they saying the same things? Or did that situation make it impossible for them to win?

******, who cares about winning football games as long as we can all go to a birthday party? What were we thinking?

 

[JordanTaber]

I said his constant whining is a symptom of the losing atmosphere. BTW, I was one of his biggest defenders when Werder's non story broke. Still am. That doesn't change the fact that he invites backlash and it affects others on the team. Learn to read.

Oh, and thanks for proving me right. The part in bold is exactly what I predicted I'd get fromt he church of TO.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for how his media babble CAUSES the team to lose.

 

[JordanTaber]

The thing didn't end with the Giants game, did it? That ballgame where NY was dealing with its own distractions? A few other games were played. Right? How did they turn out?

The "thing" was over after they won. The media basically packed up their circus tents and went home after that.

Yet once things settled down, they proceeded to lose the next two games...two two of the remaining 4 teams contending for the Super Bowl. That must have been because of T.O. in the media, not because the Cowboys just weren't good enough/didn't play well enough to beat said good football teams.

 

[DallasEast]

Not sure what point you're trying to get across with that article.

Owens was a distraction in 2005 because he was TRYING to be. He was upset over the way the Eagles handled his contract demands.

You should also note that those are all the same guys who showed up at his birthday party. Those guys liked him.

N.D. Kalu and others can cop the "chemistry" excuse if they wish, but that team lost because Donovan McNabb got hurt. If they had won the Super Bowl that year, are they saying the same things? Or did that situation make it impossible for them to win?

Bold--> All I needed to read. Thanks.

5Countem5, you may not wish to re-read the text which I placed in bold.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Not sure what point you're trying to get across with that article.
Owens was a distraction in 2005 because he was TRYING to be. He was upset over the way the Eagles handled his contract demands.

You should also note that those are all the same guys who showed up at his birthday party. Those guys liked him.

N.D. Kalu and others can cop the "chemistry" excuse if they wish, but that team lost because Donovan McNabb got hurt. If they had won the Super Bowl that year, are they saying the same things? Or did that situation make it impossible for them to win?

Imagine that.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

The "thing" was over after they won. The media basically packed up their circus tents and went home after that.

Yet once things settled down, they proceeded to lose the next two games...two two of the remaining 4 teams contending for the Super Bowl. That must have been because of T.O. in the media, not because the Cowboys just weren't good enough/didn't play well enough to beat said good football teams.

But, but, but.... the Cowboys must have been good enough. They had Terrell Owens. My gosh, nooooobody else had him, Jordan.

 

[Hostile]

Don't forget the ladyfingers. Oh, and some delightful watercress sandwiches if it's not too much trouble.

Ooooh yeah. Good party stuff.

We can play the new Wham Greatest Hits CD.

 

[Hostile]

You know, Hos, this is what bothers me. The Cowboys have always been bigger than the individual. Dallas moved on without Duane Thomas, the single most gifted running back I ever saw, save maybe Jim Brown. When Randy White (RANDY WHITE) held out, the team prepared to move on without him. When Ed Jones decided to go boxing, they moved on... until he returned. Don Meredith was said to have been disappointed Landry didn't offer more in an attempt to have him stay.

The team has always been the thing. Now I'm supposed to believe Owens -- about whom I've had mixed feelings, since I do think he is treated unfairly -- is bigger than this football team. He is our "Big Play" threat. He is indispensible.

Please.

Yes, the salary cap changes things. But when Duane Thomas had to be released, there was no free agency. The only hope was a draft choice. Fortunately one of those turned into Tony Dorsett.

Even before that, though, the Cowboys had some post-sphynx success. The team.

Bless you. A pure football post with no drama queen BS. I gotta read this again.