Pretty strong working theory that McC does NOT come back b/c agreement on terms unreachable

[_sturt_]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

 

[visionary]

Pride is not a word to be used when talking about Joneses or McCarthy

This is about money

 

[Rayman70]

I have been on board with the theory this will be a mutual divorce for the reasons stated above in the OP. My reasoning is, they left him and the entire staff dangling on expiring deals for a reason. It was to let things run out of contract. I don't look at what Jerry says, I look at what he does. BIG difference. All indications are the OP is correct. This is how Jerry wants it to play out. My hunch is, they already have a HC on speed dial long before now.

 

[JW82]

Its only cap stricken because they don't know their &@@ from a hole in the wall.

 

[Rayman70]

Pride is not a word to be used when talking about Joneses or McCarthy

This is about money

Money? Nah...this is about them not wanting to commit to MM and the staff because of the GB debacle. I also think they are enjoying toying with the fans and the HC. They will part with MM and it will be framed as "they came up just short and couldn't agree" Which will be a lie. If they really wanted him back they would have done it last offseason. Its so very obvious this is about the ire of the Jones family and the fact they already have a good idea who the next HC is. They did pretty much the same thing with Garrett.

 

[Rayman70]

Its only cap stricken because they don't know their &@@ from a hole in the wall.

while I tend to agree, I think there's a bigger plan here. I feel there has been a rift between the current staff for a couple years now so they organically just let things play out like they did. This plan required nothing but them sitting on their hands and doing next to nothing at all. Its not complicated one bit. Writing was on the wall even going back to the San Fran playoff loss. The entire reason MM was brought in here was to beat San Fran and advance. MM failed miserably in that so what does Jerry and Stephen do? NOTHING. They provide no help. Thats them sticking it to MM...winning games be damned.

 

[darthseinfeld]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

2025 isnt cap striken at all. We can actually create the most space we have ever had very easily and without cutting a single player

 

[sjmike]

I am ok with not bringing Mike back but only if they get a really good replacement such as Vrabel, Ben Johnson, Joe Brady or possibly Aaron Glenn. I don't want a yes man but I am sure that Jerry will only want to hire one of those. So tough being a Cowboys fan anymore

 

[Hawkeye0202]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

I agree but it gets a little tricky for MM if he turns down Jerry's offer, whether 3 or 5 years. He better know he has a better offer in his back pocket because it's unlikely Jerry will let him test the market and bring the best one back. I'm pretty sure Jerry will tell him to take it or leave it but if you leave it's over. That would leave MM hoping he can land one of the 6 openings, otherwise he's left with taking an OC job.

 

[fivetwos]

I agree but it gets a little tricky for MM if he turns down Jerry's offer, whether 3 or 5 years. He better know he has a better offer in his back pocket because it's unlikely Jerry will let him test the market and bring the best one back. I'm pretty sure Jerry will tell him to take it or leave it but if you leave it's over. That would leave MM hoping he can land one of the 6 openings, otherwise he's left with taking an OC job.

He could always sit out a year and be in the mix next year. There are six openings.

Who has more options, Mike or Jerry?

Considering what Jerry wants and the limitations, probably Mike.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I have been on board with the theory this will be a mutual divorce for the reasons stated above in the OP. My reasoning is, they left him and the entire staff dangling on expiring deals for a reason. It was to let things run out of contract. I don't look at what Jerry says, I look at what he does. BIG difference. All indications are the OP is correct. This is how Jerry wants it to play out. My hunch is, they already have a HC on speed dial long before now.

Unfortunately I think this is very possible, but its yet another situation where Jerry just loses my respect for him as a human being if it ends up being true. If the decision has already been made, or if they even have reasonable doubts that MM will be back then there is no reason at all for him to block MM from interviewing elsewhere. Its like the kid who gets upset and brakes the video game controller because if they cant play no one will.

 

[panchucko]

Pride is not a word to be used when talking about Joneses or McCarthy

This is about money

well then i hope MIke wants so much money that Jerry says good bye

 

[_sturt_]

2025 isnt cap striken at all. We can actually create the most space we have ever had very easily and without cutting a single player

(You can say that, but gonna have to bite that bullet at some point, no escaping it. But that's a different thread regardless... tangent to this one, at least this early.)

 

[thunderpimp91]

2025 isnt cap striken at all. We can actually create the most space we have ever had very easily and without cutting a single player

Yes you can, but should they? Also once they resign/replace what they are set to lose to FA do they really have the space to make significant moves? Cap is always going to be an issue, especially since Jerry simply doesnt want to spend.

 

[cristglo]

I disagree At Jerry's age he wants a SB I think He brings back MM there will be some minor shake up in the coaching staff. They will free up the cap space to give Jerry a last hurrah . We wont be a tier one In FA but we will be active. They will work out a 5 year contract will some type of way out after 3 maybe incentive laden.
Then again It also wouldnt surprise me If MM tells Jerry to Kiss his tush. lol

 

[rags747]

Jerry probably also want Mike to give up play calling.

 

[Coogiguy03]

well then i hope MIke wants so much money that Jerry says good bye

After being underpaid why not

 

[Coogiguy03]

Jerry probably also want Mike to give up play calling.

I could see that being the biggest drawback, when you think you're doing so great, you don't want to give it up, it's time to give it up, and let a NEW play caller call plays

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

I believe so. I think Jerry thinks the fanbase is OK with him coming back, but MM would be crazy. Chicago is waiting to interview him and he would make a lot more going somewhere else and not have to deal with the crazy.

 

[CowboysRule]

Where did this whole "Jerry doesn't want to pay coaches" thing come from? Do you y'all really think McCarthy deserves to be one of the highest paid coaches in the league? I don't think he's a bad coach but a good chunk of this board wants to run him out of town.

And as far as cap room, we don't have a ton. Yes, we can restructure contracts but then you have a whole group of people complaining about how they just kick the can down the road and we end up with massive contracts we have to get incredibly creative with to fit under the cap.

I say all this to say you can't please everyone and regardless of what they do you'll have a large group of people criticizing them simply because the team didn't do what they felt was in the best interests.