Pretty strong working theory that McC does NOT come back b/c agreement on terms unreachable

[Coogiguy03]

Where did this whole "Jerry doesn't want to pay coaches" thing come from? Do you y'all really think McCarthy deserves to be one of the highest paid coaches in the league? I don't think he's a bad coach but a good chunk of this board wants to run him out of town.

And as far as cap room, we don't have a ton. Yes, we can restructure contracts but then you have a whole group of people complaining about how they just kick the can down the road and we end up with massive contracts we have to get incredibly creative with to fit under the cap.

I say all this to say you can't please everyone and regardless of what they do you'll have a large group of people criticizing them simply because the team didn't do what they felt was in the best interests.

Dealing with this circus he should be a billionaire

 

[vig454]

The decision to part is probably already done. The attempt is to make it seems that they are undecided about Mike McCarthy, but still considering to keep him . Trying to keep his value up to not diminish his "value" to possible teams. He might be signed by another team before Dallas would have gotten to sign him. A win win outcome in Jerry's mind.

 

[Rayman70]

Unfortunately I think this is very possible, but its yet another situation where Jerry just loses my respect for him as a human being if it ends up being true. If the decision has already been made, or if they even have reasonable doubts that MM will be back then there is no reason at all for him to block MM from interviewing elsewhere. Its like the kid who gets upset and brakes the video game controller because if they cant play no one will.

Agree. They are bad human beings when it comes to the way they treat people at times. There's no reason to handle things this way.

 

[Rayman70]

2025 isnt cap striken at all. We can actually create the most space we have ever had very easily and without cutting a single player

Exactly. We actually should have about 109 Mil in cap. We will have the ability to create even more if we need to. Cap for the 2025 season is in great shape. People really need to stop listening to the Joneses. The local media is even worse.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Cowboys just need to move on. Should have already happened.

This feels like Garrett Part 2.

 

[Rayman70]

Jerry probably also want Mike to give up play calling.

Exactly which he was likely asked to do last off-season,and is probably why no extension. That's not gonna happen. Mikes time here might be over.

 

[Rayman70]

Cowboys just need to move on. Should have already happened.

This feels like Garrett Part 2.

Bingo. Last off-season they should have cut bait. But Jerry being Jerry, he was highly miffed at MM so he makes him a lame duck HC, now fast forward to now. He's enjoying this. He fully knows MM is a goner. He's just slow walking it because it entertains him.

 

[Creeper]

Why bring MM back if you cannot commit to a 4 years deal? Its not like a player where cutting him might have CAP implications. You can fire a coach at any time and it has no effect on the rest of the team.

I am not advocating rehiring him or not. I don't think it matters. If he stays it will be status quo. If he leaves, Jerry will hire someone else to maintain the status quo.

Personally, after what they did to him this year sandbagging him with a lousy roster, they should rehire him and make a commitment to winning. But they won't do that.

 

[nightrain]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

The longer this thing drags on, the more assistants from the current staff will be poached by other teams. Jerry only has about 5 days from now to lock things up. He has really painted himself into a corner with his mishandling of the team the past year.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think the plan all along was to let Mike be the scapegoat for the Jones' do-nothing offseason - why else have your entire coaching staff on expiring contracts? But then Jerry started having second thoughts, realizing Mike is a good employee, etc.

It's a terrible look all the way around that there hasn't been any word of Jerry even making an effort for some of the top candidates this round. It's obvious he's looking for almost the low bidder, the coach who will work cheap.

Jerry used to make stupid moves, but he at least wanted to win. Now he doesn't even try.

 

[Loso86]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

Why do yall keep thinking 2025 we won't have Cap space?

 

[bluemagic4ever]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

I hope you are right my friend

 

[bluemagic4ever]

Why do yall keep thinking 2025 we won't have Cap space?

We know its there but we just wont use it. LOL. They listening to Jerry and Stephen

 

[Whyjerry]

Jerry and Stephen are botching this like they do to everything else. McCarthy is a respected guy. People will see him getting ripped off and it will make it harder to hire anyone. Also the chance of Jerry dragging this out is high hence guys will already get jobs. Assistants too. If this goes like it could I could see him making an unbelievably dumb hire of a washed up retread or going to the college ranks and picking someone not ready for the NFL. I am dumbfounded at how this is being handled right now.

 

[SlammedZero]

If they don’t want him back or are still deliberating, it was a weak move not allowing him to interview in Chicago. At the very least, they could have extended that courtesy while they take their time making a decision. It just feels like an ego-driven move to keep someone’s career on hold until it suits their timeline.

 

[Miller]

I think the plan all along was to let Mike be the scapegoat for the Jones' do-nothing offseason - why else have your entire coaching staff on expiring contracts? But then Jerry started having second thoughts, realizing Mike is a good employee, etc.

It's a terrible look all the way around that there hasn't been any word of Jerry even making an effort for some of the top candidates this round. It's obvious he's looking for almost the low bidder, the coach who will work cheap.

Jerry used to make stupid moves, but he at least wanted to win. Now he doesn't even try.

Bolded! That’s the Jerry I miss. I’d rather he swing for the fences and trade picks and fire guys randomly than the system now. Now it’s a slow bleed.

As far as this thread. Starting to agree. I think Mike has some pride and the Joneses want to punish him and thus put in restrictions. Part ways at this point, The fact that it’s still going is dumb

 

[Coogiguy03]

Unreachable: Do what you can with less, be paid less to do more and put up with the BS that I Jerry Jones as an owner engages in, deal with a roster of backups and players that wouldn't start on any other team, make it happen, and bring a Superbowl to Dallas Love Jerry Jones!!!

 

[_sturt_]

Who's a subscriber? Anything of importance in Fowler's report from early this a.m.?

 

[Johannes44]

Pride is not a word to be used when talking about Joneses or McCarthy

This is about money

Agreed. The compensation for having to deal with Jerry and his idiot spawn alone should be upward of 8 million a year and that's before you get to coaching.

 

[_sturt_]

Why do yall keep thinking 2025 we won't have Cap space?

It's only been getting openly talked about by Stephen for about two years in the lead-up to Dak's contract. No secret.