Pretty strong working theory that McC does NOT come back b/c agreement on terms unreachable

[Proof]

Where did this whole "Jerry doesn't want to pay coaches" thing come from? Do you y'all really think McCarthy deserves to be one of the highest paid coaches in the league? I don't think he's a bad coach but a good chunk of this board wants to run him out of town.

And as far as cap room, we don't have a ton. Yes, we can restructure contracts but then you have a whole group of people complaining about how they just kick the can down the road and we end up with massive contracts we have to get incredibly creative with to fit under the cap.

I say all this to say you can't please everyone and regardless of what they do you'll have a large group of people criticizing them simply because the team didn't do what they felt was in the best interests.

recognizing mike is one of the lower paid coaches int the league doesn't mean anyones saying that he should be one of the highest. although, personally i do feel like the cowboys should pay as much or more than any team in the league to make it an enticing job, to go along with the valuation of the team, and because it's uncapped and doesn't count against anything. one of the few built in advantages they could realistically use. but anyway he's making like 4 million a year while plenty of coaches are making triple and quadruple that. i'd have to check, but i'd wager currently he's the best value proposition there is at coach currently. also jerry outright saying he wants to pay coaches an incentive laden contract.

 

[gimmesix]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

I think we might assume too much about this just because a deal isn't done yet. The Joneses love to wait until the last minute to decide. I think the only thing we can assume based on the fact that they haven't released him yet and did not grant the Bears permission to interview him is that they want to have until their deadline to either try to get a deal done or decide if they are going another direction (which would probably mean they are talking to other coaches).

I think there's far too much assumption in your post about what McCarthy wants.

 

[DCCowboys11]

I have been on board with the theory this will be a mutual divorce for the reasons stated above in the OP. My reasoning is, they left him and the entire staff dangling on expiring deals for a reason. It was to let things run out of contract. I don't look at what Jerry says, I look at what he does. BIG difference. All indications are the OP is correct. This is how Jerry wants it to play out. My hunch is, they already have a HC on speed dial long before now.

Agree 100 percent! The question is, who is the HC on speed dial?

 

[Rayman70]

Agree 100 percent! The question is, who is the HC on speed dial?

Could be Lincoln Riley,Kliff Kingsbury, Kellen Moore or Gruden. Or some mystery guy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why do yall keep thinking 2025 we won't have Cap space?

Great question.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The question is, who is the HC on speed dial?

You really sure you want to know?

 

[blueblood70]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

First of all you're leaving a lot left on the table with all these assumptions you wanna know what you're leaving out this pretty much would be almost all demands by all coaches how are we gonna build a coaching staff based on your theory about years and about the future of this team that's pretty much gonna be with all coach candidates. All of them I doubt that has anything to do with it more so than them wanting to take away the offensive play calling duties and they wanna hear what his change is going forward might be to make sure we don't have another rerun because I don't care who you're blaming I'm blaming Mike McCarthy the coordinator for the first eight games of this season and the way we got dominated by the Saints and whatnot that's on him I saw what we had as far as who he didn't use whatever it wasn't made the commitment to the run game Jerry has a right to be taking every one of these days to question Mike McCarthy because if you think he wants to leave good riddance another coach by the way is gonna want four to five years their price may be even higher so I don't think that has anything to do with it at all anybody who thinks that's not thinking clearly we won't have a coaching staff then that's what you're saying because most coaches wants the same..

 

[blueblood70]

I have been on board with the theory this will be a mutual divorce for the reasons stated above in the OP. My reasoning is, they left him and the entire staff dangling on expiring deals for a reason. It was to let things run out of contract. I don't look at what Jerry says, I look at what he does. BIG difference. All indications are the OP is correct. This is how Jerry wants it to play out. My hunch is, they already have a HC on speed dial long before now.

Yeah but the guy you're agreeing with up there doesn't make a lot of sense because most coaching Staffs the new ones are gonna want the same things the old one wanted and maybe even more money it's called inflation whatever his contract was the last four years has gone up a little bit have you noticed the economy you're saying we're not gonna have any coaching staff because if Jerry has a problem with compensation and years then he's not gonna find anyone to take some short term deal that's not how contracts work they don't work with the players they're not gonna work with the coaches just about everybody wants a four year contract and they're all gonna want at least middle of the pack money and up Jerry didn't pay my lower money it was around 15th out of 32 teams therefore he's not the lowest paying job out there and it's one of the highest regarded jobs as far as its popularity goes you wanna get your name on the map this is where you come good batter and different but if this is about money in years then we're barking up the wrong tree the guy above is completely wrong what the problem here is they're probably talking about philosophical differences on how the coaching staff is gonna be filled out as far as the offensive coordinator and the entire offensive staff and I would be if I'm Jerry also wondering the same thing 'cause I don't want the same start to this year as the last two seasons we have a coach who looks very Gray vanilla plays games not to lose versus aggressive going out at all costs and treating every game like the last game and I don't see it I would also be doing what Jerry's doing my assumption is that's the hold up they're arguing or I should say debating over how the offense is gonna be ran this year without even touching the defense I mean we don't know if Mike Zimmer wants to retire if he wants to stay around so they gotta argue about that too I mean debate excuse me it's the same thing really I mean they call what lawyers do arguing technically it's just long drawn out diatribe...

So again if you're agreeing with a man that says it's about money in years we're not gonna have a coaching staff I believe it has more to do with the stuff I believe they're having some major difficulty agreeing to what the rest of the staff gonna look like if he stays here that seems more logical to me and Mike might be upset about who Jerry's suggesting to fill out the rest of the coaching staff... But as a fan This is why they need those two weeks or 10 days post last game they gotta do all the paperwork for all the exit interviews for the players and the coaching staff they gotta get things packed up put up and then they gotta discuss the future in this team doing that overnight is not how contracts are done you need this grace. They call it a new tampering. For a reason they wanted to be able to have these talks..

And I'm all for it take all the way up till midnight on the 14th to figure this out you shouldn't be making rash decisions if you're gonna have another one added to the one and done coaching staff list like we've seen above there's at least 10 and he'll be the 11th you make a decision too quickly like New England did and got rid of big Bill Belichick and went with a guy without thinking too much and this is what it gets on their back in the same boat two years in a row take your time figure it out..​

 

[Wolf2k5]

2025 isnt cap striken at all. We can actually create the most space we have ever had very easily and without cutting a single player

That’s what I was under the impression of too but haven’t really looked it up. (Not that we’ll do anything with it but still)

 

[Brax]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

If MM had any pride or self respect he will not sign with Dallas. It’s going to be about money period, he’s in the perfect place for his HC and offense, a place with no accountability, no player decisions, just take the checks show up and say the right things. His saying repeatedly “I know how to win “ tells you all you need to know, he knows he’s a loser who doesn’t care and will say anything to keep his job or get one. Jerry is in all likelihood going to sign him again because it’s hard to find a HC that’s willing to degrade himself and bow down to Jerry daily. The clown show goes on in Dallas and the ringmaster will be trotting out Mcfat the Head Clown in tent number one

 

[fairviewfarmer]

If MM was coming back, we would already know it.
He Gone.
Next Jerry Puppet up.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I disagree At Jerry's age he wants a SB I think He brings back MM there will be some minor shake up in the coaching staff. They will free up the cap space to give Jerry a last hurrah . We wont be a tier one In FA but we will be active. They will work out a 5 year contract will some type of way out after 3 maybe incentive laden.
Then again It also wouldnt surprise me If MM tells Jerry to Kiss his tush. lol

MM will not agree to a deal with “some type of way out”. No other NFL head coach has and he won’t. Head coach contracts are fully guaranteed. Mid-tier college programs are paying what McCarthy makes now. Top tier programs are paying more than double what Jerry pays head coaches. MM will have options that pay. Not necessarily ones he wants, but he, and his agent, are not going to be taken advantage of by a light weight negotiator like Jerry Jones.

 

[fivetwos]

If MM had any pride or self respect he will not sign with Dallas. It’s going to be about money period, he’s in the perfect place for his HC and offense, a place with no accountability, no player decisions, just take the checks show up and say the right things. His saying repeatedly “I know how to win “ tells you all you need to know, he knows he’s a loser who doesn’t care and will say anything to keep his job or get one. Jerry is in all likelihood going to sign him again because it’s hard to find a HC that’s willing to degrade himself and bow down to Jerry daily. The clown show goes on in Dallas and the ringmaster will be trotting out Mcfat the Head Clown in tent number one

Reminding the world that he won a Super Bowl is what dazzled Jerry in the first place.

No reason not to continue to call that play.

 

[fivetwos]

If MM was coming back, we would already know it.
He Gone.
Next Jerry Puppet up.

Not necessarily. That may be true a week from now, but Mike can’t interview elsewhere just yet.

Maybe he wants to return, and maybe Jerry wants him back, but we certainly know know he wants him cheap if so. He is probably done putting up with max BS for minimal pay. This isn’t a Garrett situation where no one wants him.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Great question.

because we had a chance to make some last year and didn't

 

[Loso86]

It's only been getting openly talked about by Stephen for about two years in the lead-up to Dak's contract. No secret.

Yea i really don't pay much attention to them when we can literally have almost 100 mil in cap space if we choose

 

[75boyz]

4 million per ain't padding McFraud's retirement portfolio enough for him to want to come back so he got Dak's guy to convince Jerry that 10 plus is the starting point for continuing Jerry's comfort level with the same puppet HC.
And we all know Jerry will cave.

Cowboys!

 

[OGSixshooter]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

You make some good points, but...

once a skripper, always a skripper. MM genuflected, deferred, reticent about criticizing Jerry, pretended to be unoffended when publicly lambasted by the owner and showed no pulse when Jerry gushed over Dan Quinn as a possible replacement. So ultimately...Mike will give a lil sass and then dive on the floor for that dollar.

 

[75boyz]

If MM had any pride or self respect he will not sign with Dallas. It’s going to be about money period, he’s in the perfect place for his HC and offense, a place with no accountability, no player decisions, just take the checks show up and say the right things. His saying repeatedly “I know how to win “ tells you all you need to know, he knows he’s a loser who doesn’t care and will say anything to keep his job or get one. Jerry is in all likelihood going to sign him again because it’s hard to find a HC that’s willing to degrade himself and bow down to Jerry daily. The clown show goes on in Dallas and the ringmaster will be trotting out Mcfat the Head Clown in tent number one

Winner winner chicken dinner. Truer words never spoken my man.

 

[Chasing6]

McC is going to want another 4 years at minimum, no? Given that 2025 is so cap-stricken and the likelihood of even just playoffs is consequently dire, he might even want 5, citing 2025 as predestined for hardship because of roster issues out of his control as head coach.

I don't think the Joneses are going to want to do more than 3, and really they're going to be feeling like they're being generous by offering 2.

That's even before you get to actual compensation itself, where there are still other landmines... not only how much, but that there's seemingly a desire to shift more money into incentives/bonuses.

I think McC has too much pride to give in to any of that. I've done a 180 now... Spidey sense is this is headed toward divorce after all, but that's just me.

Why would he want to come back if he has multiple teams interested in him. He most likely gets more money elsewhere and significantly less drama and control.