Prisco: NFL's Top 50...D-Ware #3, Witten #33

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DFWJC;2823437 said:
I would have Calvin Johnson on there. I can't imagine how ridiculous he would be with a top QB and Oline. I feel pretty sure that he is fairly close to Andre Johnson in skill level....and better than Reggie Wayne.

Agreed 100%
 

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AdamJT13;2823524 said:
Witten is too low. And Prisco must not have noticed how average Carson Palmer has been lately.

I think if he was in a better situation he would do very well, trying to play quarterback for that organization must be tough.
 

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1. Peyton Manning, QB, Colts: He won the MVP despite a slow start with knee troubles. He's still at the top of his game and has five good years left -- at least.
2. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: He's right there with Manning, but missing last season drops him to the second spot. He's said to be all the way back, which Pats fans have to love.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]3. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Cowboys: One number says it all: 20. That's his sack total from 2008. He's the best pass-rushing linebacker in football. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]4. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans: He's big, strong and corners can't handle him in single coverage. If Schaub stays healthy, his numbers should be huge. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]5. Drew Brees, QB, Saints: It's too bad he plays in an era with those two top guys. He's had an amazing three-year run in New Orleans with amazing numbers. Now he needs to win a ring. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]6. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Cardinals: His playoff run stamped him as one of the top two receivers in the league. He's only scratching his potential, which is scary. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]7. Adrian Peterson, RB, Vikings: He puts fear in defenses every time he touches the ball. Imagine if he had real help from the passing game. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]8. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Raiders: Nobody throws at him. That's the ultimate sign of respect. He's finally getting some now. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]9. Jared Allen, DE, Vikings: He's an all-out player who never lets up. He creates problems with his power and his speed. Turning around his off-field problems has really helped. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]10. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Steelers: Two Super Bowl titles in five seasons is amazing. He seems to grow as a passer each season. The game can be won on his right arm, which he showed in the Super Bowl. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]11. Albert Haynesworth, DT, Commanders: When he's on the field, he's a game disrupter. The only concern would be how he plays after getting the big check from the Commanders. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT] Ed Reed's big plays only partly show his value to the Ravens. (Getty Images) [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]12. Ed Reed, S, Ravens: He isn't the big hitter some of the other safeties can be, but he's the best playmaker of them all. And he's a willing tackler. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]13. Julius Peppers, DE, Panthers: After a down season in 2007, he bounced back with a good one last season. His contract is an issue, but he will play in 2009. You wait and see. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]14. Shawne Merriman, OLB, Chargers: He missed all but one game last season with a knee injury, but he's on schedule to be back at 100 percent by the open of the season. He's a lot like Ware when he's healthy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]15. James Harrison, OLB, Steelers: He's the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year. He can rush, and he showed in the Super Bowl that he could cover with his pick for a score. He plays a nasty game. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]16. Ryan Clady, T, Broncos: As a rookie in 2008 he allowed a half a sack. That's amazing. He's that good. He's the next great left tackle in a league with good ones. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]17. Randy Moss, WR, Patriots: With Tom Brady back, his numbers should skyrocket. He can still run by defensive backs. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]18. Dwight Freeney, DE, Colts: He's a speed rusher who might be the most disruptive edge rusher when he's healthy. He has an impact on the game even when he's not getting sacks. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]19. Mario Williams, DE, Texans: The past two seasons have taught us that this is a premier pass rusher, even if his sack numbers went down last season. Still think he shouldn't have been the top pick? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]20. Philip Rivers, QB, Chargers: He carried the Chargers last season. They are now his team, not L.T.'s. Rivers really elevated his game last season. He's a tough guy. Some will see this as high, but I love this guy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]21. Kevin Williams, DT, Vikings: He plays the run well and he can rush the passer as well as any inside player. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]22. Champ Bailey, CB, Broncos: The chic thing is to say his skills are eroding. I don't buy it. He's still one of the best. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]23. Terrell Suggs, OLB, Ravens: He's in the prime of his career, and his rush ability is vital to the Baltimore defense. He can also play in coverage. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT] Steve Smith averaged 18.2 yards for 78 catches in the '08 season. (Getty Images) [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]24. Steve Smith, WR, Panthers: As the only true threat in the passing game, he sees way too many doubles and still puts up big numbers. Imagine if he had help. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]25. Steve Hutchinson, G, Vikings: After a drop in play in 2007, Hutchinson regained the top spot at the position last season. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]26. Carson Palmer, QB, Bengals: Coming off arm problems, he's back throwing again, which is why he's this high. When he's healthy, he might be even higher. Bashers take note: Brady stays in the second spot coming off his injury, so Palmer stays this high. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]27. Reggie Wayne, WR, Colts: He has been the Colts' go-to guy the past two seasons and with Marvin Harrison gone, there isn't a doubt. He's undervalued by most. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]28. Patrick Willis, ILB, 49ers: He's a tackling machine. In two years, he's established himself as one of the league's best defensive players. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]29. Kurt Warner, QB, Cardinals: At his age, he remains a big-time passer. His ability to stand in against the rush is as good as any. It's a treat watching him carve up defenses, but it's even better talking to him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]30. Adrian Wilson, S, Cardinals: He showed his value to the nation last year during the Cardinals' Super run. He's a violent tackler and excels in the blitz game. He is Mr. Cardinal. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]31. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Falcons: Even at 33 he continues to put up huge numbers. Now that he's in an offense with a good quarterback, those numbers will be even better. He has three Pro Bowl type years left. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]32. Michael Roos, T, Titans: He doesn't get the credit he deserves, but he's one of the best. Forms half of the best tackle tandems in the game with David Stewart. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]33. Jason Witten, TE, Cowboys: He's a great threat in the middle of the field and has improved as a blocker. Tony Romo loves him and with T.O. gone he might be even more of a factor. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]34. Darnell Dockett, DT, Cardinals: He is quick and relentless and was a big reason the Cardinals made it to the Super Bowl. His contract issue is clouding things heading into this season, but he'll play. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]35. Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers: He bounced back from a sub-par 2007 season to have a good 2008 season. He has improved in pass coverage greatly from his early days. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]36. Kris Jenkins, DT, Jets: He rejuvenated his career after being traded to the Jets. He's a large man who anchors in against the run. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT] Clinton Portis has six 1,000-yard NFL rushing seasons at age 27. (Getty Images) [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]37. Clinton Portis, RB, Commanders: He just keeps on putting up huge numbers. Hard to believe he's only 27. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]38. Bob Sanders, S, Colts: The only thing that has held him back has been the injuries. If he can stay healthy, he can be as good as any at this position. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]39. Brandon Marshall, WR, Broncos: When he's on the field, he puts up huge numbers. The off-the-field stuff is a concern. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]40. Jahri Evans, G, Saints: Most don't pay enough attention to this athletic, strong guard. He should be in Pro Bowls. Scouts rave about him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]41. Chris Snee, G, Giants: He's much more than the son-in-law of coach Tom Coughlin. He's a mauler in the run game. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]42. Antonio Gates, TE, Chargers: He wasn't the same last season as injuries bothered him. If he's healthy, he's higher on this list. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]43. Vince Wilfork, NT, Patriots: Over the past two seasons, he has developed into a top nose tackle. He is entering a contract year, so look for a big one. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]44. DeMeco Ryans, LB, Texans: He's an every-down linebacker who keys the Houston defense. As the team gets more exposure, so will he. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]45. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Panthers: He had a huge season in 2008, rushing for 1,515 yards and 18 touchdowns. His 5.5 average shows his big-play ability. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]46. Cortland Finnegan, CB, Titans: He's a short corner, but he plays big. He doesn't back down. He's a good cover player and a good tackler. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]47. Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets: In his second season in 2008, he emerged as a premier cover player. He'll be a Pro Bowl player for a long time. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]48. Michael Turner, RB, Falcons: He answered a lot of questions last season as to whether he could be a feature back. Now he has to show he can do it again. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]49. Donovan McNabb, QB, Eagles: He bounced back from his benching to have a big season in 2008 and a very good postseason. With a lot of weapons on board now, plus a big line, I think he will be even better in 2009. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]50. Justin Tuck, DE, Giants: He's a dominant pass rusher who emerged as a Pro Bowl player last season. Getting back Osi Umenyiora on the other side will help him be even better [/FONT]
 

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Well, I personally can't argue with Ware being behind Brady and Manning.
 

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Brady doesn't get a pass from me, he has to show me he is still at the top.
Some guys may never recover from an injury like his.
 

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panchucko;2825542 said:
Brady doesn't get a pass from me, he has to show me he is still at the top.
Some guys may never recover from an injury like his.
If he was a corner I'd agree, but he'll be ok
 

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1. tom brady
2. larry fitzgerald
3. payton manning
4. drew brees
5. demarcus ware
6. adrian peterson
7. ladanian tomlinson
8. ed reed
9. mario williams
10. andre johnson
 

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By this time next year, we'll have more than two players on this list. Mark it down.
 

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Definitely not the best list, but not the worst, either.

I would have put Asante Samuel on the list over Mcnabb.
 

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Personally, I think Terrance Newman should be on the list, but then again, maybe I'm just a homer. Don't think so though. If this season goes like I Think and Hope it will, I see a couple of additional Cowboys making this list (such as Ratliff, MAYBE Barber or Felix (though even one great year for Felix won't come close to ranking him as a Top 50 player. I just think he COULD get there in a few years.), and Leonard Davis if he can stay healthy.
 

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Star4Ever;2825798 said:
Personally, I think Terrance Newman should be on the list, but then again, maybe I'm just a homer. Don't think so though. If this season goes like I Think and Hope it will, I see a couple of additional Cowboys making this list (such as Ratliff, MAYBE Barber or Felix (though even one great year for Felix won't come close to ranking him as a Top 50 player. I just think he COULD get there in a few years.), and Leonard Davis if he can stay healthy.

Almost forgot. Romo could very well reappear on this list as well.
 

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big dog cowboy;2825806 said:
James Harrison wasn't the DPOY in my book. Not in Prisco's either it seems.

Let's face it. Harrison won the award because of the team he plays on, not because he was better than Ware. Anyone other than a Steeler fan would have to admit as much.
 

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PHof83;2823930 said:
I'd argue that Romo landed in an even better situation and has made far less of it.

Romo landed on a team with below average D......and good players on O...but without him it doesnt click....Ben landed on team with the best D and good O....and the team without Ben (insert Leftwich) didnt miss a beat ....either way the D carries Pit and Romo carries Dallas
 

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Why is Carson Palmer still a high ranked player

:tantrum:

He's sooooooooooooooooooooo overrated!! I don't get it.
 
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