Pro Bledsoe Today? When is Tomorrow?

[Bleu Star]

I'm sorry to break it to a lot of you guys that must have thought Bledsoe and our offense was going to be THAT good.

We are 3-2 and our offense is continuing to evolve every week, I have confidence that big things are in store for the entire offense in the coming weeks. Don't sell Bledsoe short, he's going to be money down the stretch and I look for him to make a statement against the giants this week.

You know I have to say I believe our offense is THAT good right now. It's being held back by the field general. The Texans game was nothing. We were supposed to win that game although I cannot find it in my recollection how we ended up trailing at the half against them... You had better believe the Giants are a real test and they will be ready to make Drew step it up against a real team. If he wants to prove his detractors wrong he had better get someone to start chiseling away at those concrete feet right away.

 

[Bleu Star]

It's relevant because QB's don't always singlehanded win or lose games, THE TEAM does......just take a look at the Bears last night for a perfect example of this.

If that was Bledsoe and the cowboys against the Bears, he would have been lynched and burned at the stake....win or lose.

Last night's game provided the perfect smokescreen for the Bledsoe apologists. Newsflash: That's the first game Grossman has not looked good in all year. I don't believe we can say that about Bledsoe. This is also Grossman's 1st real year starting. How many years has Drew been at it? Yet he still finds a way to take a 10 yard sack instead of throwing it away. It baffles me.

 

[BAZ]

Don't sell Bledsoe short, he's going to be money down the stretch and I look for him to make a statement against the giants this week.

Why do you think he will be money? Hasn't he gotten worse every year down the stretch? And haven't the Cowboys gotten worse every year down the stretch with Parcells? I think he needs to make a statement next game or else his position should be questioned by the coaches. Will you change your mind about him if he has a horrible game?

 

[StarAmongStars]

Last night's game provided the perfect smokescreen for the Bledsoe apologists. Newsflash: That's the first game Grossman has not looked good in all year. I don't believe we can say that about Bledsoe. This is also Grossman's 1st real year starting. How many years has Drew been at it? Yet he still finds a way to take a 10 yard sack instead of throwing it away. It baffles me.

Spin it anyway you like, but here's the facts:

1) Every QB has bad games, whether the seasoned veteran, rookie, or 3rd year starter.
2) Grossman looked downright horrible against a 1-5 team that's going nowhere
3) Bledsoe looked bad against two playoff calibur defenses

 

[Crown Royal]

Spin it anyway you like, but here's the facts:

1) Every QB has bad games, whether the seasoned veteran, rookie, or 3rd year starter.
2) Grossman looked downright horrible against a 1-5 team that's going nowhere
3) Bledsoe looked bad against two playoff calibur defenses

Yeah we know - that's our problem with him.

 

[Cochese]

Bledsoe said it best himself in a quote a few years ago: "When one of these running QB's wins a championship, it will be more valid". This was in response to the 'statue' criticism and how mobile QB's are the wave of the future.

And to answer your question now he's not a mobile QB, but he is faster than a lot of people think and I've definitely he has fined tuned his play in the pocket like any great player.

Bledsoe has no room to talk about winning championships.

 

[Crown Royal]

Last night's game provided the perfect smokescreen for the Bledsoe apologists. Newsflash: That's the first game Grossman has not looked good in all year. I don't believe we can say that about Bledsoe. This is also Grossman's 1st real year starting. How many years has Drew been at it? Yet he still finds a way to take a 10 yard sack instead of throwing it away. It baffles me.

You're right, and if I were a Bears fan, I wouldn't support benching him, if only because he is young.

That being said - I don't think anyone believed he was going to continue his play that he had throught the first 5 games. Anyone who has followed Grossman is pretty confident that he isn't a lights-out QB, servicable maybe. Quality starter? Maybe. But this isn't a passer in the mold of Brady/Palmer/Manning.

Also, the mistakes he made were his own. The sacks/fumbles were a result of locking onto the deep guy and holding the ball too long. His OL pass blocked fine. But no OL can hold them forever. Grossman's mistakes were eerily like Bledsoes. But Grossman, as a young unknown, gets the benefit of the doubt.

 

[gbrittain]

How about this. Instead of quantity of passing yards and TDs lets talk quality.

Have you taken a look at Bledsoe's stellar career QB rating of 77.1?

Have you noticed that out of 12 seasons that he has played that he has a sub 80 QB rating 7 times?

Have you noticed that in his 12 seasons that he has never ever posted a QB rating above 90?

Did you know his best QB rating ever is 87.7?

Did you know Bledsoe has roughly (give or take 4 games) a .500 record as the starter. That is roughly 96-96.

Did you know he has not led his team to the playoffs since 1997?

Did you know that when he has made the playoffs he likes to throw twice as many INTs as TDs?

Take the blinders off and look at this guy for what he is.

 

[gbrittain]

Yeah we know - that's our problem with him.

That is too funny!

I do not know why people do not understand that concept. I have noticed on the board here lately by some that is ok to lose as long as it is to a good team.

 

[Crown Royal]

How about this. Instead of quantity of passing yards and TDs lets talk quality.

Have you taken a look at Bledsoe's stellar career QB rating of 77.1?

Have you noticed that out of 12 seasons that he has played that he has a sub 80 QB rating 7 times?

Have you noticed that in his 12 seasons that he has never ever posted a QB rating above 90?

Did you know his best QB rating ever is 87.7?

Did you know Bledsoe has roughly (give or take 4 games) a .500 record as the starter. That is roughly 96-96.

Did you know he has not led his team to the playoffs since 1997?

Did you know that when he has made the playoffs he likes to throw twice as many INTs as TDs?

Take the blinders off and look at this guy for what he is.

The first thing I ever read about Bledsoe from a Bills' fan was that he 'is just good enough to break your heart.'

Maybe that's why he was beloved in Boston. They love their sports teams to tease you, I guess. Or at least did until 2001, when they decided to wake up.

 

[Bleu Star]

That is too funny!

I do not know why people do not understand that concept. I have noticed on the board here lately by some that is ok to lose as long as it is to a good team.

Oh.. so I am not the only one that notices this. That's nice to know.

 

[Crown Royal]

That is too funny!

I do not know why people do not understand that concept. I have noticed on the board here lately by some that is ok to lose as long as it is to a good team.

I think that some Boys fans are beginning to accept mediocrity - that it is OK to beat the teams that you are supposed to, but hey, we lost to a good team, right?

Wrong.

I want other teams to say that about us. I want to handle previously considered good teams and listen to the Eagles come out and say 'hey, let it go guys, the Boys are no pushovers.' Starting beating the good teams of the league and then we can start talking about our ability.

 

[gbrittain]

I think that some Boys fans are beginning to accept mediocrity - that it is OK to beat the teams that you are supposed to, but hey, we lost to a good team, right?

Wrong.

I want other teams to say that about us. I want to handle previously considered good teams and listen to the Eagles come out and say 'hey, let it go guys, the Boys are no pushovers.' Starting beating the good teams of the league and then we can start talking about our ability.

You are dead on. I do truly believe that Dallas has been so bad for so long that many are willing to accept mediocrity.

Just like when you see threads critical of BP, one is sure to read well Campo...

Sorry, my expectations are higher. I could care less if BP wins on average 3-4 games a year more than Campo. That is not particularly satisfying.

 

[Cbz40]

Gentlemen it's called the " swagger"......I want it to return to my team.

Remember how much fun that was? Seeing the boyz on the field of play, sidelines.....saying beat us ...if you can.

We "Talk the Talk" and we sure as heck can "Walk the Walk" .

Let's get it back...But....I don't see how we can with mediocrity at the QB position.

 

[Crown Royal]

Gentlemen it's called the " swagger"......I want it to return to my team.

Remember how much fun that was? Seeing the boyz on the field of play, sidelines.....saying beat us ...if you can.

We "Talk the Talk" and we sure as heck can "Walk the Walk" .

Let's get it back...But....I don't see how we can with mediocrity at the QB position.

The Saints are playing with some serious, serious swagger. I want the other teams to actually WORRY about playing us.

Seriously. When is the last time a good team saw us on their schedule and said 'Whoa. WHOA. That's just gonna be tough."

 

[Cbz40]

The Saints are playing with some serious, serious swagger. I want the other teams to actually WORRY about playing us.

Seriously. When is the last time a good team saw us on their schedule and said 'Whoa. WHOA. That's just gonna be tough."

10 years at least.......Way too long.

 

[windward]

To those who believe that Bledsoe gives us our best opportunity to win now I ask you when would you look in another direction, Romo or otherwise?

The youth on this teams defense and many offensive spots (excluding TO, Glenn, Rivera and maybe Flozell) gives us hope of being competitive for the foreseeable future. When would you be willing to suffer the growing pains of a young QB. As I understand it, that is the primary reason some wish to not play Romo now. Romo is in his 4th year so he's probably not gonna get significantly better by continuing to watch and many folks discount preseason as experience of significant value.

Where does this cycle end?

btw - I'm not adamant about playing Romo now. But I'd sure be willing to entertain it.

Romo will be the starter next season barring an extended playoff run to the Super Bowl and maybe even then.

 

[peplaw06]

How about this. Instead of quantity of passing yards and TDs lets talk quality.

Have you taken a look at Bledsoe's stellar career QB rating of 77.1?

Troy Kenneth Aikman career QB rating... 81.6

Have you noticed that out of 12 seasons that he has played that he has a sub 80 QB rating 7 times?

Aikman 4 out of 12 sub 80 rating

Have you noticed that in his 12 seasons that he has never ever posted a QB rating above 90?

Troy did it twice.

Did you know his best QB rating ever is 87.7?

Aikman was 99 in 1993, 93.6 in 1995.

Did you know Bledsoe has roughly (give or take 4 games) a .500 record as the starter. That is roughly 96-96.

Aikman roughly 107-85... .557

Did you know he has not led his team to the playoffs since 1997?

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the talent around him.

Did you know that when he has made the playoffs he likes to throw twice as many INTs as TDs?

Aikman's pass attempts per interception... Regular season 33.4, playoffs 29.5. Bledsoe in the regular season - 32.6, playoffs - 21.

Take the blinders off and look at this guy for what he is.

For what he is? Statistically he has HOF type numbers. Which is what you brought to the argument... stats. These numbers were compared with a first ballot hall of famer who won 3 super bowls. And IMO he's not all that far off. Definitely not far enough for you to say he's not a "quality" NFL QB.

 

[Crown Royal]

Troy Kenneth Aikman career QB rating... 81.6

Aikman 4 out of 12 sub 80 rating

Troy did it twice.

Aikman was 99 in 1993, 93.6 in 1995.

Aikman roughly 107-85... .557

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the talent around him.

Aikman's pass attempts per interception... Regular season 33.4, playoffs 29.5. Bledsoe in the regular season - 32.6, playoffs - 21.

For what he is? Statistically he has HOF type numbers. Which is what you brought to the argument... stats. These numbers were compared with a first ballot hall of famer who won 3 super bowls. And IMO he's not all that far off. Definitely not far enough for you to say he's not a "quality" NFL QB.

Soooo...you're saying, statistically, Aikman is better.

Well, you've convinced me.

 

[peplaw06]

Soooo...you're saying, statistically, Aikman is better.

Well, you've convinced me.

Not exactly... most posters would have you believe that Bledsoe doesn't hold a candle to some of the all time great QBs. Stats tell a different story and the post I quoted did nothing to prove otherwise.