CFZ Proactive vs Reactive

[Diehardblues]

Since I believe this is a throwaway season, albeit prolly unintentional, I think it's a good idea to see what we have w/ the young guys.

And Lamb has more talent in a toe than all the WR's combined on that roster. As does Gallup, and possibly Tolbert.

I think the salary room we have should be kept, to be rolled over to pay Diggs. Get ahead of the game for once.

Dammmmmmmmmmm, one of the 3 times per season me n Bob sorta disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Since I believe this is a throwaway season, albeit prolly uintentional

That’s fine but 2022 hasn’t been established as such. Not even a rebuilding or retooling season.

Your thoughts actually make sense. And it would take pressure off of all involved. But that’s not likely to ever be muttered by this organization. And I doubt they react as such.

 

[Diehardblues]

Guess it all boils down to this...

IF Lamb can do all the things a top tier WR1 can do without having Coop's presence on the field which effected the opposing defensive schemes then that will prove full legitimacy as WR1.

That’s reasonable . And if we had Gallup we’d be in pretty good shape with Noah our only other veteran receiver and Tolbert our new rookie coming in. I also like the kid we just signed from USFL and Tech.

If Gallup is out an extended time then we could have some more immediate concerns. And assuming he’ll be his normal self.

 

[Ranching]

Each new issue or situation presents the opportunity to rehash the core problem.

Kinda like with a problem child that needs to be reprimanded for each incident or situation.

Negative reinforcement only works so much....reprimands only work on those that need them....bystanders shouldn't have to be hearing it every frikkin day. I used to enjoy his posts very much, now I don't even bother to read past the first couple of lines....kind like the boy that cried wolf. He's not the only one, and I'm sure many feel the same about my posts. Nothing wrong with disagreeing, if you have thick skin.

 

[Diehardblues]

Negative reinforcement only works so much....reprimands only work on those that need them....bystanders shouldn't have to be hearing it every frikkin day. I used to enjoy his posts very much, now I don't even bother to read past the first couple of lines....kind like the boy that cried wolf. He's not the only one, and I'm sure many feel the same about my posts. Nothing wrong with disagreeing, if you have thick skin.

That’s fine. Everyone has a view . If you aren’t interested move on.

I’m usually only interested in views which align with mine. And why I don’t watch all of these national mediots . Not interested in their dribble.

 

[817Gill]

Great post, I was thinking toward the same thing. Give the players a few weeks or so, even one PS game. Then go from there.
I actually posted stuff like that throughout the off season. They will go into TC as they are, and see how things develop from there.

Yup. How else can you know what you have?

 

[J-man]

Personally, I don't understand what made James Washington so great and why Dallas should be deathly scared of being short on WRs now.

Dude has broken 400 yards/season 1 year. 30 yards/week is what that comes down to and now Dallas is dire straights?

No, IMHO, we were still in need before he went down. Now the guy they already brought in to fill the gap of the young guys is down. This is why we definitely need someone else brought in.

 

[Ken]

We all know being proactive with problems is better than waiting until your choices are limited, then having to react from a weakened position.

I know our front office is saying they want to wait before signing a WR to see how the young players do. I understand wanting to see how the kids progress. But what happens if they don’t pan out but you wait until the regular season starts to find out? And if we sign a veteran WR now why would that in any way stunt the development of the young WRs?

This sounds a lot like the beginning of the 2018 season. We had a bunch of new receivers (Gallup was one of them) and the FO waited until 7 games into the season before admitting we didn’t have enough at WR. Which then led to Jerry’s reactive move to acquire Amari Cooper at the cost of a #1 pick.

Waiting until the house is on fire is never a good strategy. All the firemen I know say most fires are prevented before they ever start.

Being proactive doesn’t mean you aren’t developing your young talent too. We should be able to walk and chew gum.

I do think they have confidence in what they have in place already. I think they are confident in guys like Simi, Tolbert and Vasher.

The real x-factor seems to be Pollard. I think they are going to use him in the Debo Samual type role this year. I don't know why they didn't before, maybe it was because of having a guy like Amari that needed to get the ball, I don't know.

Pollard IS a Debo-type player. He was a WR who happened to also go into the backfield coming out of college. Some of the Leadership/Coaching staff have eluded to this in the offseason. Maybe it would be a good thing to not have so many weapons. I think it was Kellen Moore who said this in his coordinator PC this past week.

We shall see but I am not worried about it...yet.

 

[Ranching]

That’s fine. Everyone has a view . If you aren’t interested move on.

I’m usually only interested in views which align with mine. And why I don’t watch all of these national mediots . Not interested in their dribble.

Yeah, I hear you...

 

[jrumann59]

The thing is right now with so many positions unsettled who do you cut make room for vet WR, do you cut OL, DL, DB. given many of the players are camp bodies.

 

[kskboys]

We know that Gallup will be ready at some point in the season

At that point the team has Lamb, Gallup, Schultz, Pollard, and Tolbert/Brown. As there top 5 pass catchers (not even including Washington)

We keep talking about 2018 but you miss what really happened. In 2018 we didn't just let Dez go, we also let Witten go. We did not have a young WR1 ready to replace Dez instead we had Hurns, Butler, Tavon, Beasley, Jardin, who we were hoping would fill that void. But without the threat of Dez and Witten, teams no longer had to double cover anyone in particular. Which meant Beasley was no longer able to just one on one the teams 3rd CB. And with Jason Garrett's run run, pass and just beat the guy in front of you mantra. There was zero creativity in the offense. Which is what hampered our offense.

When we got Cooper that brought a legit number 1 WR to the cowboys who Dak wa able to use to force teams to start adjusting there coverages which allowed the rest of the WRs a chance to succeed.

Here we don't have that. Lamb and Gallup each are better than any WR we had at the start of 2018. Schultz is the best TE we've had since Witten. Pollard is legit threat on the field. We don't need another WR right now. We have the firepower as it is. We can afford to wait and sign a Vet if we feel we need the depth. Because any WR we sign is gonna be at best 3 or 4th option even at the start of the season.

This is not 2018. Please stop insulting Lamb by suggesting Hurns, Butler, and Beasley can be anything near what he brings to the team.

At that time we had one, count 'em, one WR who had NFL starter talent, and that was Beasely at slot. They were not even good enough to be called JAGs. Noah Brown might be better than all of them.

 

[kskboys]

Yea, there has been no discussion of a throw away season. Not even a rebuild or retooling.

Jerry won't allow such talk. No talk about it does not mean it isn't happening.

 

[kskboys]

NO throwaway seasons, absolutely EVER. Unless you are MIA and stupidly say you are tanking in public and now are paying for it, paying dearly,..Jery has NEVER tried to tank even in 2020 , we won 3 games down the stretch we could have thrown..lmao

you are truly clueless..you think that what they are doing but those subtractions are positives, just because they didn't go make splash in FA , in some fans eyes we will be worse..

nope not a fact that, an opinion.. its not true. what over seen is many players this offseason has recommitted seem to be working harder even the rooks/2yr players seem to be going the extra mile getting ready.. not even unintentional , i see as good or beter team for 22..

Gawd, you're such a child. Your inability to even have a simple discussion w/o throwing out childish insults is beyond sad. Clueless doesn't even begin to describe your lack of acumen. Grow up.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Professional football teams in the NFL are built around playmakers.

When is the optimum time to acquire playmakers?

The draft
Free agency

And in both of these scenarios, where is the playmaking talent?

Toward the top.

So, high draft picks and early in free agency.

How does any of this fit what the Cowboys have done for the 2022 season?

 

[blueblood70]

Gawd, you're such a child. Your inability to even have a simple discussion w/o throwing out childish insults is beyond sad. Clueless doesn't even begin to describe your lack of acumen. Grow up.

actually I stated 100% facts while you had dribble running down your face about a total collapse of lost season before game 1 played, or are you this century version of Nostradamus, you know impending doom is upon us LMAO,

if you call that acumen, might want to have Alexa or google update you on the definition of acumen.

Because all i read is opinion, guessing, using feelings to make negative predictions.

that nonsense you are typing an opinion based in hater facts that your feelings seem to point to a bad season and Im contradicting you and you take issue as if what you said had any validity at all .

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry won't allow such talk. No talk about it does not mean it isn't happening.

We’ll see. If our season doesn’t meet the public expectations of making the playoffs and Jethro doesn’t react with coaching staff then we’ll know.

Actually I’d agree with you. This season could very well be that. But without that type of suggestion by our dysfunctional organization I will have to hold their feet to the fire.

 

[Floatyworm]

We all know being proactive with problems is better than waiting until your choices are limited, then having to react from a weakened position.

I know our front office is saying they want to wait before signing a WR to see how the young players do. I understand wanting to see how the kids progress. But what happens if they don’t pan out but you wait until the regular season starts to find out? And if we sign a veteran WR now why would that in any way stunt the development of the young WRs?

This sounds a lot like the beginning of the 2018 season. We had a bunch of new receivers (Gallup was one of them) and the FO waited until 7 games into the season before admitting we didn’t have enough at WR. Which then led to Jerry’s reactive move to acquire Amari Cooper at the cost of a #1 pick.

Waiting until the house is on fire is never a good strategy. All the firemen I know say most fires are prevented before they ever start.

Being proactive doesn’t mean you aren’t developing your young talent too. We should be able to walk and chew gum.

Knowing this front office....they think the Amari trade worked out....and can do it again...if they have too. Problem is...you don't have that player out there right now. There were rumblings for months that Amari might get traded...but if you look around the league....that player isn't out there right now...so IMO..this is a flawed strategy.

 

[fivetwos]

We all know being proactive with problems is better than waiting until your choices are limited, then having to react from a weakened position.

I know our front office is saying they want to wait before signing a WR to see how the young players do. I understand wanting to see how the kids progress. But what happens if they don’t pan out but you wait until the regular season starts to find out? And if we sign a veteran WR now why would that in any way stunt the development of the young WRs?

This sounds a lot like the beginning of the 2018 season. We had a bunch of new receivers (Gallup was one of them) and the FO waited until 7 games into the season before admitting we didn’t have enough at WR. Which then led to Jerry’s reactive move to acquire Amari Cooper at the cost of a #1 pick.

Waiting until the house is on fire is never a good strategy. All the firemen I know say most fires are prevented before they ever start.

Being proactive doesn’t mean you aren’t developing your young talent too. We should be able to walk and chew gum.

Meh.....play the kids and run the football already.

I will say that Lamb may have usurped Tyron as right behind Dak as the player we can least afford to lose.

They sure are banking on him, as well as Gallups knee.

 

[kskboys]

We’ll see. If our season doesn’t meet the public expectations of making the playoffs and Jethro doesn’t react with coaching staff then we’ll know.

Actually I’d agree with you. This season could very well be that. But without that type of suggestion by our dysfunctional organization I will have to hold their feet to the fire.

This is a small, forced, mini rebuild. Just because Jerry refuses to admit it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Think about it, we released two good players in Cooper and Lael. Why? Because they were not performing. They were not released because it makes us better right now.

IMO, this is the MM influence. He is not the best HC ever ever ever, but what he is, is a legit NFL HC. First one we've had since Tuna.

 

[kskboys]

actually I stated 100% facts while you had dribble running down your face about a total collapse of lost season before game 1 played, or are you this century version of Nostradamus, you know impending doom is upon us LMAO,

if you call that acumen, might want to have Alexa or google update you on the definition of acumen.

Because all i read is opinion, guessing, using feelings to make negative predictions.

that nonsense you are typing an opinion based in hater facts that your feelings seem to point to a bad season and Im contradicting you and you take issue as if what you said had any validity at all .

All you post is dribble and nonsense. Take that crapp out of here, the adults are talking.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is a small, forced, mini rebuild. Just because Jerry refuses to admit it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Think about it, we released two good players in Cooper and Lael. Why? Because they were not performing. They were not released because it makes us better right now.

IMO, this is the MM influence. He is not the best HC ever ever ever, but what he is, is a legit NFL HC. First one we've had since Tuna.

I understand and agree to the point our dysfunctional ownership doesn’t recognize or acknowledge. Like I said , we’ll know more if this season disappoints or falls short of expectations and no changes are made.

I’m sorry I don’t have any more faith this HC can overcome our ownership anymore than Bill did regardless if intentions were better assembling talent.

Imagine the different spin and attitudes on this season if it were presented and sold as you are . No pressure and high expectations which might actually lead to more success. And why our leadership ultimately fails us.