News: Projected contract for Schultz

[Reid1boys]

100% no freaking way. He's not getting that. If Jerry would to pay that he would be a moron.

36 passes for 475 yards and 4.. yea that was FOUR TDs last year and he just got a 4 year 56.75 million dollar deal..... and othin Schultz isnt gonna get paid?

 

[Sarge]

No thanks….bye bye.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

With Ferguson and Sprinkle here, I think he's gone after this season.

 

[Rayman70]

hes not leaving. The reason we drafted Ferguson was to play a 2 tight end set type offense. We are signing Schultz. That saves us mega cap space this year. It actually adds money to the cap. Think..how dumb would it be to pay a tight end 15 mil for 1 season? If we don't sign him, thats what we must give him on the tag. THAT AINT HAPPENING.

 

[Rayman70]

With Ferguson and Sprinkle here, I think he's gone after this season.

Sprinkle will be gone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

36 passes for 475 yards and 4.. yea that was FOUR TDs last year and he just got a 4 year 56.75 million dollar deal..... and othin Schultz isnt gonna get paid?

I think thats another dumb contract. I wouldnt pay that either. But that TE can block as well. He is a complete TE that was stuck in a run first offense with Baker Mayfield throwing the ball to him.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Sprinkle will be gone.

Ah, in that case, Schultz will probably be to Ferguson in my mind to what Dan Campbell was for Jason Witten.

 

[fivetwos]

Ah, in that case, Schultz will probably be to Ferguson in my mind to what Dan Campbell was for Jason Witten.

I can't get used to this Rusty thing Furboy. Sorry.

 

[Reid1boys]

I think thats another dumb contract. I wouldnt pay that either. But that TE can block as well. He is a complete TE that was stuck in a run first offense with Baker Mayfield throwing the ball to him.

so you study film on Njoku and evaluate his blocking skills? I dont think it is a dumb contract if they use him well. BUT, even if it is a dumb contract, that just set the bar for schultz. Dalton basically DOUBLED Njoku in rec, yards, and TDs and he just got 50 plus million. Let some team say .... but Dalton isnt really a great blocker when trying to justify giving him less than Njoku. Remember when people were saying how much Gregory was worth? it wasnt close to what he got. Same with Schultz. Someone will step up quickly and pay him if we dont.

 

[Rayman70]

I can't get used to this Rusty thing Furboy. Sorry.

reminds me of a "furry" situation. lmao..just sayin.

 

[OmerV]

I'm a Schultz fan, and I wouldn't pay him anywhere near that. 4 years/35 mil. That's about what he should get.

With that you wouldn't pay him at all because that isn't even in the ballpark of the market. I'm not saying players should make what they do, but the market is what it is, and if a team doesn't like a player enough to compete in the market it would be better to let him walk than make an offer the player is absolutely certain to reject and that the rest of the players might see as a sign the team won't treat them fairly.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He’ll be playing under the tag this season. The Cowboys want to see one more season before they commit to a long-term deal with him. They only franchised him because of Blake Jarwin’s injury and the loss of Amari Cooper and Cedric Wilson. They couldn’t afford to lose 2 quality WRs and their starting TE. Franchising Schultz was a move they had to make.

I think the cowboys don't want to give him a contract. they are hoping one of the TEs on the roster shows enough so they can move on from Schultz. I think the plan is to see how things go over the next couple of years and if Dak isn't getting it done, then they are not going to extend him as a result they need the cap space for year 4 and dead money in year 5.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I can't get used to this Rusty thing Furboy. Sorry.

Not to worry. You can always call me Furboy if you want.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

With Blake Jarwin’s injury and the loss of Cooper and Cedric Wilson we had to franchise him. We couldn’t afford to lose our starting TE along with our number one receiver and a key backup at receiver all in the same offseason.

thank you. I have been arguing this for months...

the reason people hate Schultz now is because he is making 11M. if he made 9.5M they all would be ok with it. and their excuse is that he doesn't block. top, elite TEs are in the 15M range and next couple of contracts will inch closer to 20M

 

[fivetwos]

Id love to see numbers on Schultz' catch stats as far as which were dump offs vs otherwise. Anyone can catch a dump off pass...and being generally unaccounted for because there are other much bigger threats is no personal skill.

He has a hell of a racket going. Good for him, just don't want it to be us that overpays for average, which is what he is.

BUT.....he is family (Dallas draftee), so I'm thinking around 70 million. Four years of being uncuttable if he heads to Cabo in August.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

thank you. I have been arguing this for months...

the reason people hate Schultz now is because he is making 11M. if he made 9.5M they all would be ok with it. and their excuse is that he doesn't block. top, elite TEs are in the 15M range and next couple of contracts will inch closer to 20M

I don't have an issue with Schultz. I just think he might be a bit redundant, but I didn't realise that Sprinkle was also on the last year of his deal. So, it does make sense to keep Schultz and have him be to Ferguson what Dan Campbell was to Jason Witten.

 

[kskboys]

With that you wouldn't pay him at all because that isn't even in the ballpark of the market. I'm not saying players should make what they do, but the market is what it is, and if a team doesn't like a player enough to compete in the market it would be better to let him walk than make an offer the player is absolutely certain to reject and that the rest of the players might see as a sign the team won't treat them fairly.

I disagree that it isn't in the market. I also disagree w/ the way you'd handle it. A contract averaging 8.5-9 mil/season is a legit offer, and about what his skills/production point towards.

What makes you think we have to pay at the top of the market for every player who comes up in FA?

The NFL salary cap for 2022 is 208.2 mil. 15 mil would be what, 7-8% of the cap? So, you think you have to pay an above average TE 8% of the available cap? Why?

I think you have your idea of paying players all screwed up!!!!!!

 

[GMO415]

Not bad for a project player.

 

[OmerV]

I disagree that it isn't in the market. I also disagree w/ the way you'd handle it. A contract averaging 8.5-9 mil/season is a legit offer, and about what his skills/production point towards.

What makes you think we have to pay at the top of the market for every player who comes up in FA?

The NFL salary cap for 2022 is 208.2 mil. 15 mil would be what, 7-8% of the cap? So, you think you have to pay an above average TE 8% of the available cap? Why?

I think you have your idea of paying players all screwed up!!!!!!

You didn't read my post very well if you believe I said we have to pay at the top of the market for every player who becomes a free agent.

I clearly only said the team has to either be competitive in the market, OR if they don't like a player enough to do that they can let him walk. Obviously a trade might be also be a possibility if the player still has some time left under contract. Letting a player walk or a trade rather than paying market value is a perfectly legitimate consideration.

As for the market, look at what Njoku just got. Look at what Jonnu Smith got a year ago. Look what Hunter Henry got a year ago. They are all less productive players and got a much better deal than what you propose to pay Schultz. The market for a player isn't set by whatever % of the salary cap a team feels it can spend on a TE, it is set by what a players can actually get paid in the marketplace. What a team feels it can spend is its own economic assessment of its situation.

 

[Creeper]

Maybe it is me, but I don't think Schultz is that great. $16 million a year? no way. The reason his numbers were so high last year is because Dak lost his nerve and stopped throwing downfield. If the offense has to rely on Schultz catching 7 yard passes and then running for 3 more yards, they are in trouble.

Do you realize a guy named Durham Smythe (30 rec.) averages more yards per catch than Schultz? In fact, Schultz was15th in yards per reception of all TEs with 30 or more catches with just 10.4 yds per receptions. It's not like Schultz is running downfield making big splash plays for Dallas. He is running 5 yard routes turning around and waiting for Dak to dump the ball off. I admit he has made a few longer plays, his longest in his career is just 32 yards.

My point is he does nothing special that I am sure the Cowboys could not get out of another TE they pick up in the 3rd or 4th round in the draft. The Cowboys have wasted enough money on players like Schultz. Good guy, but this is a business and the business is winning football games and championships. If I spend $16 million on a TE he better be a playmaker.

Some people might argue that his 8 TDs, 2nd in the league among TEs, is why he is worth a lot of money. It is a reasonable argument but I am still not convinced if the Cowboys had another TE he would not duplicate that performance given the Cowboys running woes last in the year last year.