Proof - Cap Space and Romo Trade not a problem

[Doomsay]

Wow, still pushing the "huge cap hit" angle. How can anyone take you seriously?

It's 5 mill saved with him gone. If anything, a release would allow us to spread that over two years (which we have no need to do).

Forgo a mid round pick and bad feelings? You can be damn sure if you trade Romo where he don't want to go, that his teammates will be upset. Plus, he'd likely just retire and you'd get nothing.

This is a simple principle. In football and in life. Don't be an &$#+0!#.

Calm down, you're getting ahead of yourself.

Huge cap hits exists, just a fact. Tony's is somewhat close to the entire Cap resources committed to next year's DL. Tony is going to be paid well wherever he goes and is already (deservedly) incredibly rich, most of the players on the team will never be. A quarter of the team hasn't seen him play in a meaningful way or in a meaningful season.

Everybody wishes him well, I'm sure, but while he's soaking up more than 10% of the team's resources while playing for another team, I think that they'd at least like to get the best draft prospect possible for him in a trade to maximize their own playoff chances. If that means the Jets will give us a 2nd for Tony after we hang tough through training camp, so be it.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Why would you trade for a guy who has full veto rights and will be released anyway?

Dallas will release him and get nothing for him.

Because he is a QB and a good one.

 

[Doomsay]

Why would you trade for a guy who has full veto rights and will be released anyway?

Dallas will release him and get nothing for him.

You let him know and everyone else that you won't release him, boom goes the leverage. Another vet backup would cost you 2-3 million anyway.

 

[CCBoy]

Thanks for your time to stimulate thoughts, X. I hope that Tony Romo brings some benefits to the Cowboys upon leaving. Then I wish him the best...

And this year's cap could be used diligently, for sure.

 

[robjay04]

You let him know and everyone else that you won't release him, boom goes the leverage. Another vet backup would cost you 2-3 million anyway.

And then all Romo has to say is leak information that he's considering retiring and there you are.

I don't know if we all follow the same team. Jerry always does right by his players and Romo doesn't have much value. All of the media agree with it, it seems to be a fan thing only thinking he is worth a first.

This Romo situation will be settled by the start of free agency. We won't hold him hostage, Jerry would never sign off on that. We don't trade players to begin with...we haven't made a significant trade in at least 10 years.

Yes this is a business, that is why you let Romo walk or you trade him to where he wants to go for less value. Players respect you when you do right by their teammates. That is what gives you leverage when you are negotiating an all time bargain contract for your 25 year old LT...

 

[CCBoy]

And then all Romo has to say is leak information that he's considering retiring and there you are.

I don't know if we all follow the same team. Jerry always does right by his players and Romo doesn't have much value. All of the media agree with it, it seems to be a fan thing only thinking he is worth a first.

This Romo situation will be settled by the start of free agency. We won't hold him hostage, Jerry would never sign off on that. We don't trade players to begin with...we haven't made a significant trade in at least 10 years.

Yes this is a business, that is why you let Romo walk or you trade him to where he wants to go for less value. Players respect you when you do right by their teammates. That is what gives you leverage when you are negotiating an all time bargain contract for your 25 year old LT...

Good post...as to Jerry Jones and Tony Romo, they are both men. They will decide upon what is on the table and to both side's best interest. But then move on...and name calling in the interim is a cheap thrill.

 

[robjay04]

Good post...as to Jerry Jones and Tony Romo, they are both men. They will decide upon what is on the table and to both side's best interest. But then move on...and name calling in the interim is a cheap thrill.

Yes it's the point that people are forgetting.

People who scream that is a business don't understand how Jerry runs this business. He's good to his players. If you're good to a well respected guy in the locker room like Romo, your own players and agents respect that. Jerry runs a player friendly organization, it helps you sign Smith to an all time great contract and you're hoping it helps with Martin.

People talk about the business but they only think about the dollars...you need to think about the people as well and what you do with Romo reflects on the character of your team.

 

[CCBoy]

Yes it's the point that people are forgetting.

People who scream that is a business don't understand how Jerry runs this business. He's good to his players. If you're good to a well respected guy in the locker room like Romo, your own players and agents respect that. Jerry runs a player friendly organization, it helps you sign Smith to an all time great contract and you're hoping it helps with Martin.

People talk about the business but they only think about the dollars...you need to think about the people as well and what you do with Romo reflects on the character of your team.

Very good observations. Jerry knows that more goes into the equation of being top dog...and oh yea, there is a coming dead reckoning of the guts and core for this group of Dallas Cowboys. Destiny is still in the balance, but being the come back kids isn't enough. Jerry and Jason have to build the last required elements, to stand and fight for it all.

As of recent, Green Bay has stood and kicked the Cowboys *** when all the marbles were up for grabs. Now, the Cowboys will have to do it the Old Fashioned Way...by fighting the final battles and taking them for their own!

 

[xwalker]

No way Houston gives up Clowney for Romo unless there are some picks from the Cowboys. If Houston is gonna move on from him which I don't think they are they wont take anything less than a 2nd round pick in 17 and a later pick In 18.

Show us the millions you have made from predicting the future...

 

[xwalker]

And then all Romo has to say is leak information that he's considering retiring and there you are.

I don't know if we all follow the same team. Jerry always does right by his players and Romo doesn't have much value. All of the media agree with it, it seems to be a fan thing only thinking he is worth a first.

This Romo situation will be settled by the start of free agency. We won't hold him hostage, Jerry would never sign off on that. We don't trade players to begin with...we haven't made a significant trade in at least 10 years.

Yes this is a business, that is why you let Romo walk or you trade him to where he wants to go for less value. Players respect you when you do right by their teammates. That is what gives you leverage when you are negotiating an all time bargain contract for your 25 year old LT...

If a team wants to trade for Romo that is likely where he would want to go.

 

[Doomsay]

And then all Romo has to say is leak information that he's considering retiring and there you are.

I don't know if we all follow the same team. Jerry always does right by his players and Romo doesn't have much value. All of the media agree with it, it seems to be a fan thing only thinking he is worth a first.

This Romo situation will be settled by the start of free agency. We won't hold him hostage, Jerry would never sign off on that. We don't trade players to begin with...we haven't made a significant trade in at least 10 years.

Yes this is a business, that is why you let Romo walk or you trade him to where he wants to go for less value. Players respect you when you do right by their teammates. That is what gives you leverage when you are negotiating an all time bargain contract for your 25 year old LT...

The fan pejorative is funny, as if you're not one too. Tony has already been paid more than any Cowboy in history and has a net worth near $50 million, I'm sure he feels well treated - he has been paid $30 million+ over the past couple of years and has only played in 3 games since the beginning of the '15 season (partially due to injury, partially at the team's discretion).

Jerry owes more to the team now than the player he's made the richest in team history but there's nothing to suggest that the transaction won't also be mutually beneficial.

 

[AbeBeta]

Calm down, you're getting ahead of yourself.

Huge cap hits exists, just a fact. Tony's is somewhat close to the entire Cap resources committed to next year's DL. Tony is going to be paid well wherever he goes and is already (deservedly) incredibly rich, most of the players on the team will never be. A quarter of the team hasn't seen him play in a meaningful way or in a meaningful season.

Everybody wishes him well, I'm sure, but while he's soaking up more than 10% of the team's resources while playing for another team, I think that they'd at least like to get the best draft prospect possible for him in a trade to maximize their own playoff chances. If that means the Jets will give us a 2nd for Tony after we hang tough through training camp, so be it.

You still don't understand what you are talking about. A trade or a release frees 5 mill on our cap. That benefits us.

It also benefits us to not send a player somewhere he doesn't want to go.

It is sad to see folks not understand that how we treat Romo at this stage affects so many things. It is sad to see that the concept of respect is lost on you.

 

[Doomsay]

You still don't understand what you are talking about. A trade or a release frees 5 mill on our cap. That benefits us.

It also benefits us to not send a player somewhere he doesn't want to go.

It is sad to see folks not understand that how we treat Romo at this stage affects so many things. It is sad to see that the concept of respect is lost on you.

I understand, it's pretty straight forward, actually. Jerry's first obligation is to extract as much value out of that monstrous cap hit that the team will assume under any scenario. Team first.

Romo has been made rich beyond imagination, he should be glad to help the team out that is still absorbing tens of millions of his dead money after he is gone, the idea that he could even possible be treated poorly at this point is ludicrous.

 

[SoBlue128]

Show us the millions you have made from predicting the future...

 

[AbeBeta]

I understand, it's pretty straight forward, actually. Jerry's first obligation is to extract as much value out of that monstrous cap hit that the team will assume under any scenario. Team first.

Romo has been made rich beyond imagination, he should be glad to help the team out that is still absorbing tens of millions of his dead money after he is gone, the idea that he could even possible be treated poorly at this point is ludicrous.

Again, you fail to understand how treating a player right is the long term, team first approach

 

[Sydla]

I'll be honest. I am still confused about how Romo's contract works.

So if we cut him prior to June 1, what are the ramifications cap wise not only for the 2017 cap year but the 2018 cap year.

What happens if he's a post June 1 cut. How does that affect the 2017 cap year and 2018 cap year.

Do the parameters change if he is traded either post or pre June 1?

 

[Doomsay]

Again, you fail to understand how treating a player right is the long term, team first approach

Oh, I understand, Tony has been treated better contractually than almost anybody in the history of the game. His owner has let him and the team down in multiple ways, but that's not exclusive to Tony. There are some 60 players on the team that deserve to have their prospects helped by securing the best deal from a team perspective in a Romo trade, anything else is just poor management and leadership.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I'll be honest. I am still confused about how Romo's contract works.

So if we cut him prior to June 1, what are the ramifications cap wise not only for the 2017 cap year but the 2018 cap year.

What happens if he's a post June 1 cut. How does that affect the 2017 cap year and 2018 cap year.

Do the parameters change if he is traded either post or pre June 1?

If you cut him before June 1 (or trade him), it saves you $5.1 million against the 2017 cap. Then he doesn't count against the 2018 cap at all and will be off the books at that point.
If you cut him after June 1 or designate him a June 1 cut, he saves $10.7 million against the 2017 cap but then he also costs us $8.9 million against the 2018 cap.

http://overthecap.com/player/tony-romo/145/

 

[Sydla]

If you cut him before June 1 (or trade him), it saves you $5.1 million against the 2017 cap. Then he doesn't count against the 2018 cap at all and will be off the books at that point.
If you cut him after June 1 or designate him a June 1 cut, he saves $10.7 million against the 2017 cap but then he also costs us $8.9 million against the 2018 cap.

http://overthecap.com/player/tony-romo/145/

Thanks.

 

[LocimusPrime]