Punt/Kick returner please

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It seems when watching games on Sunday/Monday other teams have potential of returning a kickoff/punt return during the game. The guys that are returning the kicks have one thing we don't have. That is speed at punt return. Our punt are just glad to catch the ball and give it to the offense.

Why can't we draft receivers with natural speed and quickness.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;1778400 said:
Damn man, we are 9-1.

I swear reading this board we are 1-9
I keep rubbing my eyes and pinching myself.
 

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Vision, hands, and discipline are more important than speed as a KR. Although a PR should have all that and a little more speed too typically.
 

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sportsman;1778390 said:
It seems when watching games on Sunday/Monday other teams have potential of returning a kickoff/punt return during the game. The guys that are returning the kicks have one thing we don't have. That is speed at punt return. Our punt are just glad to catch the ball and give it to the offense.

Why can't we draft receivers with natural speed and quickness.
With the exception of Crayton, we have speed returning kicks with Austin and Thompson. What we don't have are elusive kick returners. Speed alone will not find holes or cutback against the grain to avoid tacklers. What we need are smarter kick returners who will use their speed as an asset instead of a liability.

Until then, RunningIntoPiles University will continue to love our team's special team kick returns. Darn it.
 

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I think Miles and/or Stanback are fine as KRs. I just wish they'd let Newman do PRs again. He was back to catch a couple his first week back... I wonder why they took him off the job.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;1778400 said:
Damn man, we are 9-1.

I swear reading this board we are 1-9

:hammer:


And I've liked what I've seen from Austin the last couple of weeks. His average doesn't show it, but he's hitting the "hole" hard and it seems like he's close to breaking one.
 

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ST touchdowns are sexy and great for highlights but not needed to win championships.

As long as we have a return man to set us up with average field position than thats A ok with me.

Plus Miles seems to be coming along when given the chance.
 

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smarta5150;1778481 said:
ST touchdowns are sexy and great for highlights but not needed to win championships.

As long as we have a return man to set us up with average field position than thats A ok with me.

Plus Miles seems to be coming along when given the chance.

Agreed. I think game breaking return men are important to a team if they have an average or weak offense.

We don't have that problem.


But, as we've both said, Austin looks like he's getting close to breaking one.
 

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Rack;1778489 said:
Agreed. I think game breaking return men are important to a team if they have an average or weak offense.

We don't have that problem.


But, as we've both said, Austin looks like he's getting close to breaking one.

I think we'll see that big smile of his again in the near future.
 

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smarta5150;1778494 said:
I think we'll see that big smile of his again in the near future.

The smile that went from ear to ear. :D An early christmas present versus the Packers maybe.

I read somewhere that they might get Newman a try at punt returns sometime, but its a shaky idea because you sure wouldnt want him to get hurt again.
 

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DallasEast;1778424 said:
Until then, RunningIntoPiles University will continue to love our team's special team kick returns. Darn it.

:lmao2: i just spit oj all over my monitor
 

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sportsman;1778390 said:
It seems when watching games on Sunday/Monday other teams have potential of returning a kickoff/punt return during the game. The guys that are returning the kicks have one thing we don't have. That is speed at punt return. Our punt are just glad to catch the ball and give it to the offense.

Why can't we draft receivers with natural speed and quickness.

I disagree I think Austin has plenty of quickness and speed at kickoff returns and came close last week to breaking the opening kickoff this past game. As for punt returns I would like to see some improvement.
 

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smarta5150;1778481 said:
ST touchdowns are sexy and great for highlights but not needed to win championships.

As long as we have a return man to set us up with average field position than thats A ok with me.

Plus Miles seems to be coming along when given the chance.


You're correct that punt and kickoff return touchdowns are "sexy" but what people fail to realize is that there's almost no correlation between ST return TDs and winning football games.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1779226 said:
You're correct that punt and kickoff return touchdowns are "sexy" but what people fail to realize is that there's almost no correlation between ST return TDs and winning football games.

Special teams can change games just last week the Jets get a big return off a punt to set them up for a game winning FG. A return for TD or to set up an offense with outstanding field position does have a big impact. As Jimmy Johnson said there are 3 phases in this game Offense, defense and Special teams you win 2 out of the 3 phases the odds are your team will win.
 

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Doomsday101;1779243 said:
Special teams can change games just last week the Jets get a big return off a punt to set them up for a game winning FG. A return for TD or to set up an offense with outstanding field position does have a big impact. As Jimmy Johnson said there are 3 phases in this game Offense, defense and Special teams you win 2 out of the 3 phases the odds are your team will win.

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I never said nor implied that special teams isn't a very important aspect of football. What I said was that punt and kick return TDs show almost no correlation with winning football games.

You point to Leon Washington's punt return against the Steelers. It set the Jets up to make a game winning field goal. What would have happened if he would have returned it for a TD? No one can say but if I was a Jets fan, I'd much rather have my kicker attempting an almost chip shot to win the game than have the Steelers offense on the field with time left and a chance to tie.

This week the Dolphins had a punt return for a TD. The Dolphins lost. Heck, the week before that, Cribbs returned a kick for the Browns against the Steelers. The Browns lost.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't want a return TD. What I am saying is that return TDs in and of themselves are not an indicator of success.
 
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