Purdy Didn't Have to Wait to Long For His Bag

[gtb1943]

GMs are always under pressure *except one*

pressure affects people in two different ways

some hunker down and get cautious others throw the dice

There are two ways to win SBs
one with a top QB like the HOF Brady, Montana, Mahoomes and so on
the other is with the Flacco;s and Hurts and so on

what I do notice is that teams that have the HOF QBs win more of them and are more often in close competition for them

the cautious GMs try it the way of a really good bus driver and the GMs willing to take chances go for the TOP QBs
perfect example is Reid and the Chiefs; they had a very good QB and swung for the fences with Mahoomes.
Baltimore sticks with a player that might make the HOF but only gets close to a SB ring

 

[atlantacowboy]

SF IMO made a huge error. That team was in the super hunt bc they never paid a QB and put their resources into the defense. The D is what carried them. Now, they are stuck with an average NFL QB taking a huge chunk of cap which will prevent them from loading up on defense. How do they win now? It's like they didn't recognize that injury on defense is what set them back last year. Purdy has never been able to carry that team and I doubt that changes.

 

[gtb1943]

SF IMO made a huge error. That team was in the super hunt bc they never paid a QB and put their resources into the defense. The D is what carried them. Now, they are stuck with an average NFL QB taking a huge chunk of cap which will prevent them from loading up on defense. How do they win now? It's like they didn't recognize that injury on defense is what set them back last year. Purdy has never been able to carry that team and I doubt that changes.

I tend to agree. Should have paid him say $35 mil a year. with the cap going up like it is, that would not have been a big hit.

 

[FanofJerry]

SF IMO made a huge error. That team was in the super hunt bc they never paid a QB and put their resources into the defense. The D is what carried them. Now, they are stuck with an average NFL QB taking a huge chunk of cap which will prevent them from loading up on defense. How do they win now? It's like they didn't recognize that injury on defense is what set them back last year. Purdy has never been able to carry that team and I doubt that changes.

Defense means something. Not gonna argue it.

But there is so much parity in the League....most of these games are coming down to the 2 minute mark and it where QBs take over.

The QB position is important all game, but is highlighted in the last few minutes of close games.

My opinion is that this board underestimates a stable bus driver and how they can eek out wins for clubs, while GMs see this.

Last 6 minutes of close games is almost always QB play that determines things

 

[gtb1943]

Defense means something. Not gonna argue it.

But there is so much parity in the League....most of these games are coming down to the 2 minute mark and it where QBs take over.

The QB position is important all game, but is highlighted in the last few minutes of close games.

My opinion is that this board underestimates a stable bus driver and how they can eek out wins for clubs, while GMs see this.

Last 6 minutes of close games is almost always QB play that determines things

BS. You act like defense is not as important and anyone that ever passed Football 101 knows otherwise.

The QB can only take advantage of the defenses weakness if he is allowed to.

Get that rush and no QB not Brady not Mahomes no one can get it done. Or even a great play by a DB.

Anyone that thinks the QB is everything should have gotten smacked in the head with a cold dead fish in the last SB

 

[Swagger]

SF IMO made a huge error. That team was in the super hunt bc they never paid a QB and put their resources into the defense. The D is what carried them. Now, they are stuck with an average NFL QB taking a huge chunk of cap which will prevent them from loading up on defense. How do they win now? It's like they didn't recognize that injury on defense is what set them back last year. Purdy has never been able to carry that team and I doubt that changes.

Agree.

The 49ers' superbowl window has now closed.

Only the elite quarterbacks deserve elite money otherwise the team will be not strong enough to compete.

Mahomes
Burrow
Allen
Jackson
Hurts

The big 5 in the league. You pay those guys.

The likes of Purdy and Prescott are exactly the type of quarterbacks you don't pay unless they accept a Baker Mayfield/Gino Smith type contract.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Defense means something. Not gonna argue it.

But there is so much parity in the League....most of these games are coming down to the 2 minute mark and it where QBs take over.

The QB position is important all game, but is highlighted in the last few minutes of close games.

My opinion is that this board underestimates a stable bus driver and how they can eek out wins for clubs, while GMs see this.

Last 6 minutes of close games is almost always QB play that determines things

And Dak and Purdy aren't those guys who are going to win big games in January with their arms. Heck, in the GB playoff game, Dak had under 150 yard passing until we got so far behind GB went to a prevent defense. It's better to have a great defense than an average QB making a ton of money.

 

[FanofJerry]

And Dak and Purdy aren't those guys who are going to win big games in January with their arms. Heck, in the GB playoff game, Dak had under 150 yard passing until we got so far behind GB went to a prevent defense. It's better to have a great defense than an average QB making a ton of money.

I don't feel like playing whack-a-mole this morning...we can argue excuses to death...

If Dak is so bad, I don't think Cowboys sign him to his 3rd contract.

Coaches, scouts, consultants have informed Dallas FO that Daks faults aren't as significant as critics make it seem.

That's my opinion of the whole Dak situation.

His teammates and OC need to help him and vice versa. I completely believe he is capable of making throws assuming he has some time to execute and the OC is calling plays correctly.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I don't feel like playing whack-a-mole this morning...we can argue excuses to death...

If Dak is so bad, I don't think Cowboys sign him to his 3rd contract.

Coaches, scouts, consultants have informed Dallas FO that Daks faults aren't as significant as critics make it seem.

That's my opinion of the whole Dak situation.

His teammates and OC need to help him and vice versa. I completely believe he is capable of making throws assuming he has some time to execute and the OC is calling plays correctly.

Cleveland thought the same thing when they signed Deshaun Watson. NFL GM's and owners get it wrong. Jerry gets it wrong more than most. It's Dak's 10th season and he tore his hamstring off the bone last year. You think he's getting better? Keep hope alive, I guess. I never said he's a bad QB. I think he's an NFL average Qb being overpaid by a wide margin.

 

[FanofJerry]

Cleveland thought the same thing when they signed Deshaun Watson. NFL GM's and owners get it wrong. Jerry gets it wrong more than most. It's Dak's 10th season and he tore his hamstring off the bone last year. You think he's getting better? Keep hope alive, I guess. I never said he's a bad QB. I think he's an NFL average Qb being overpaid by a wide margin.

I just think this board underestimates the allure of stability at the position is for GM's.

Bus drivers are paid near star QB money.

The QB is such a hard position to find some semblance of stability, GMs would rather pay the hefty price than let their guy wall to a division rival and then end up getting beat by him in playoffs. In that scenario, the GM is the laughing stock of the League...and these guys have egos.

Is there an issue with these QBs getting paid disproportionately to their talent vs star QBs...yes! But the issue is that there isn't a good answer to solve it.

Acquiring a vet journeyman and drafting a QB every year is the only realistic answer.

Most on this site would prefer to forgo a journeyman contract and just take advantage of cheap labor with rookie contracts. Problem is, most rookie are trash...and if you have a somewhat decent team, the locker room might start calling for a different QB. Star vets at different positions can start getting agitated as their best years are being wasted.

All sorts of issues pop up when trying to skirt the QB pay issue.

Running the ball can work. But it's the QB who wins games late with little time left.

It's a unique situation

 

[atlantacowboy]

I just think this board underestimates the allure of stability at the position is for GM's.

Bus drivers are paid near star QB money.

The QB is such a hard position to find some semblance of stability, GMs would rather pay the hefty price than let their guy wall to a division rival and then end up getting beat by him in playoffs. In that scenario, the GM is the laughing stock of the League...and these guys have egos.

Is there an issue with these QBs getting paid disproportionately to their talent vs star QBs...yes! But the issue is that there isn't a good answer to solve it.

Acquiring a vet journeyman and drafting a QB every year is the only realistic answer.

Most on this site would prefer to forgo a journeyman contract and just take advantage of cheap labor with rookie contracts. Problem is, most rookie are trash...and if you have a somewhat decent team, the locker room might start calling for a different QB. Star vets at different positions can start getting agitated as their best years are being wasted.

All sorts of issues pop up when trying to skirt the QB pay issue.

Running the ball can work. But it's the QB who wins games late with little time left.

It's a unique situation

Stability at the QB position is great when you have Mahomes or Allen or Jackson ( all of whom somehow make less than Dak). The real question is where has that stability got you? In our case, it's gotten us nowhere. Dak's had 9 seasons and it was enough. Yet we signed up for more bc we have an 82 year old GM with no vision of what a winning roster looks like or how to get there.

 

[gtb1943]

Stability at the QB position is great when you have Mahomes or Allen or Jackson ( all of whom somehow make less than Dak). The real question is where has that stability got you? In our case, it's gotten us nowhere. Dak's had 9 seasons and it was enough. Yet we signed up for more bc we have an 82 year old GM with no vision of what a winning roster looks like or how to get there.

Matt Ryan gave the Falcons stability; they did get to a SB and then lost it in a historical collapse.
Stability for what? For keeping the GMs job?

 

[FanofJerry]

Stability at the QB position is great when you have Mahomes or Allen or Jackson ( all of whom somehow make less than Dak). The real question is where has that stability got you? In our case, it's gotten us nowhere. Dak's had 9 seasons and it was enough. Yet we signed up for more bc we have an 82 year old GM with no vision of what a winning roster looks like or how to get there.

Maybe we see stricter second and third contracts in the future...

There is still the element of letting 'WHAT SEEMS TO BE A DECENT QB' walk and being the laughing stock of the league.

If Dak became available at end of last contract, he would have had all sorts of suitors.

It's a team game but you have to have a QB that can show up late jn games because it's all on the QB.

My opinion is that Dak is good enough. His contract hurts...but that's the price of a decent QB in today's NFL.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Matt Ryan gave the Falcons stability; they did get to a SB and then lost it in a historical collapse.
Stability for what? For keeping the GMs job?

Well, in our case, the GM never had to fear for his job. We stuck to Dak bc Jerry is old and has zero confidence in his ability to fill that position. The Falcon hung onto Ryan and Ryan was a genuinely talented QB. Great size and arm for the position. The Falcons lack of success was rarely ever blamed on the offense. Their defense is blamed for the Super Bowl loss.

I prefer to do what Detroit did with Stafford and roll the dice more and shake things up. How many other orgs are trading Stafford? It was ballsy and got the franchise moving forward. Maybe it will pay off this year if they can stay healthier. What we are doing is never going to pay off.