Put a point up for Romo

[Hiero]

Bada Bing. Some people only believe the conspiracies though. :bang2:

Thanks.

I don't think Romo's 93 QB rating in the preseason had anything to do with Parcells liking him.

I don't think opposing secondaries let Romo complete 62% of his passes on them because he's a Parcells darling.

I don't think the overwhelming reports coming out of camp that Romo was outplaying Henson in practice everyday had anything to do with the defensive players slacking off a little bit to make Romo look good. Esepecially since they had their own roster and positional rankings to fight for.

When Henson actually outperforms Romo on the football field, instead of resorting to "He just got lucky", then your argument will hold more weight.

 

[Hiero]

Wile, I wasn't referring to you at all. I just think, in general, people played up Romo, and still do. Did he have a better preseason than Henson? Yes, probably. To a HUGE extent? Not in my opinion. In fact, I don't even think Henson got equal opportunity. He didn't get as much playing time as Romo. So how do you really know? Especially if a guy is a "gamer" instead of a great practice player.

Anyway, we are talking about a 2nd and 3rd team situation, so at this point, who cares? My only point is that I don't think Henson really has a chance to play until either he or Parcells are out of Dallas. Just my opinion, would LOVE to be proven wrong.

Henson will get a chance to play, when Parcells thinks/knows he is ready. If Henson showed he wasnt able to learn the playbook and read defenses like Romo, then that explains why Romo was elevated above Henson. He's just more ready imo, and Henson isnt gonna catch up until at least next preseason.

 

[rcaldw]

Thanks.

I don't think Romo's 93 QB rating in the preseason had anything to do with Parcells liking him.

I don't think opposing secondaries let Romo complete 62% of his passes on them because he's a Parcells darling.

I don't think the overwhelming reports coming out of camp that Romo was outplaying Henson in practice everyday had anything to do with the defensive players slacking off a little bit to make Romo look good. Esepecially since they had their own roster and positional rankings to fight for.

When Henson actually outperforms Romo on the football field, instead of resorting to "He just got lucky", then your argument will hold more weight.

Roshi. Never said he got "lucky". I said that he DID make some bad throws that he didn't have to pay for fully. So what? Bledsoe last Sunday got away with one that Keyshawn caught after a Giants DB had both hands on it. It happens. My point is that there isn't a huge disparity between the two right now, in my opinion, and that if it is close, and CERTAINLY if Romo is slightly better, Bill will go with Romo. He LIKES Romo, from all I can see/read.

Parcells has demonstrated OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER an affinity for blue collar, had to work your way up, kind of players. Just go back over his entire career and you will see that.

Romo has EARNED everything he has gotten here. I'm not even commentating on that. I'm talking about HENSON'S position. And in my opinion, this is not a great situation for him to develop.

 

[RedskinsOne]

... I think I have another one coming along that you guys are going to like in Tony Romo... He's a pretty good prospect"
... QUOTE]

What Parcells meant was that he was going to be good at competing in those local golfing comtetions, nothing more.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think rcaldw is dead on.

It's not that there is some vast conspiracy concocted in the scheming evil recesses of Parcells' brain. It's that he has certain guys he has an affinity for, for whatever reason, and it's crazy to think that those guys aren't going to get more of a chance than guys he doesn't care for. I'm sure every coach has their favorites, but with Parcells the effect is greater than with any other coach I've ever seen.

And that's not all bad, because maybe Parcells' gut or instincts or whatever is correct, and he really does have a sixth sense that can weed out players that won't make it in the long run. But I think it's crazy not to see that he does play his favorites. I think it's one of the more fascinating aspects of Parcells.

And for the record, since I'm the one who made the "dead" comment, Henson might well be dead because he's demonstrated in practice that he can't play. I don't know. But still, I think he's dead with the Dallas Cowboys as long as Parcells is the coach.

 

[junk]

I am sure Parcells read "Roamin' with Romo". If you ever read that article, you have to love Romo.

They need to bring it back.

 

[Nors]

If Henson had outplayed Romo he'd be the #2......

Parcells is brutally fair. If Henson is dead as long as BP is coach. I agree with Bill - Now if JJ starts making QB calls again - beware what you are going to get.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

It just seems like BP has issues with Henson. I'm not a Henson supporter but it does seem like BP goes out of his way to avoid saying anything positive about Henson. Obviously, that could mean Henson is not ready. But I think Parcells despises what Henson stands for and that is a QB who has been given something without earning it. And I will honest with you guys, if Parcells was thinking along these lines, I agree with him. I don't like it when someone gets something for free whether it was through hype etc. It just bothered me that some guy who couldn't hack baseball decides to go back to football only to be annointed as the future starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys. As my favorite professor always says: "I don't think so pal." Deep down, Parcells is a blue collar guy who wants his players to earn their keep.

 

[wileedog]

Wile, I wasn't referring to you at all. I just think, in general, people played up Romo, and still do. Did he have a better preseason than Henson? Yes, probably. To a HUGE extent? Not in my opinion. In fact, I don't even think Henson got equal opportunity. He didn't get as much playing time as Romo. So how do you really know? Especially if a guy is a "gamer" instead of a great practice player.

Anyway, we are talking about a 2nd and 3rd team situation, so at this point, who cares? My only point is that I don't think Henson really has a chance to play until either he or Parcells are out of Dallas. Just my opinion, would LOVE to be proven wrong.

Just so you understand, I think the Cowboys made a great move trading for Henson. He cost a 3rd round pick and was signed to a long, cap friendly contract. Dallas put themselves in a great position to let a guy who has been out of football a long time (and didn't have a whole lot of experience to begin with) a chance to develop at his own pace, without the pressures of a 1st round pick or a mega contract forcing us to throw him on the field and hope for the best. Numerous franchises have set themselves back for years missing on first round pick QBs that didn't make it, or were thrown in too soon.

I don't buy that Henson is not the Dallas QB right now because Parcells doesn't like him. Quite frankly, Parcells has NEVER shown a tendency to waste a roster spot on someone he doesn't believe has a future (see Hutchinson: Chad). I think Henson is where he is at because that is where he is. A guy who needs more time before he's ready for prime time. Period.

 

[Nors]

Maybe Romo is better than Henson - at some point Henson has to outplay him.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Just so you understand, I think the Cowboys made a great move trading for Henson. He cost a 3rd round pick and was signed to a long, cap friendly contract. Dallas put themselves in a great position to let a guy who has been out of football a long time (and didn't have a whole lot of experience to begin with) a chance to develop at his own pace, without the pressures of a 1st round pick or a mega contract forcing us to throw him on the field and hope for the best. Numerous franchises have set themselves back for years missing on first round pick QBs that didn't make it, or were thrown in too soon..

But that's assuming he would have been a first round pick or that he is first round talent. This is the kind of thing we said about Hutchinson too. Granted, Henson came with more hype but everyone seems to conveniently forget that when Hutchinson arrived, those in favor of bringing him here constantly alluded to the idea that Hutchinson would have been a first round pick. I'm not saying the kid lacks talent but first round picks are first round picks and assumptions are just that.

Personally from what I have seen of Romo, I haven't been that impressed. Could one argue that Romo is playing better than Henson? Yes

Could one argue that Romo is playing so much better than Henson that there is clear distinction? No

 

[SultanOfSix]

You all need to stop with the BP doesn't like Henson threads. Remember, BP was responsible for bringing in Henson, both from a recruiting perspective (see my previous reference to wining and dining him), and from Henson's personal perspective - one of the major reasons he chose to play for the Cowboys is because BP was the coach.

"Henson's time will come." - BP

 

[DallasDomination]

So how strong is Romos arm?



Can I get a good comparison in arm strength?

From some of the comments from other boards it's like the guy is another Pennington.

 

[JackMagist]

So how strong is Romos arm?



Can I get a good comparison in arm strength?

From some of the comments from other boards it's like the guy is another Pennington.

I think Romo has a much better arm than Pennington (who NEVER impressed me) and for Gods Sake lets hope he is not as fragile. He has a strong arm; not as strong as Henson and no where near as strong as Bledsoe but very very few have an arm like Bledsoe. But there are a lot of starting QB's with weaker arms than Romo. I would compair him to Tom Brady Drew Brees or Jake Delhomme; not the strongest arm in the league but strong enough.

 

[notherbob]

Not to worry, everything is going according to Parcells' plan.

He went after the undrafted Romo because he wanted to develop him into a QB he could trade for a draft choice. He is doing that. Anything he gets for him will be more than he paid for him and he'll have a good backup QB while his long term project is developing. Right now Henson is semi-irrelavent as he is still early in Parcells' development program for him but sooner or later he's going to have to beat out Romo and by then Romo will have established his own rep in the NFL and be worthy of at least a third rounder that they paid for Henson. Neat, huh? If it works out that way, of course.

There is a conspiracy, of course, but Parcells is the conspirator. He has said that he just likes to develop players, especially QBs.

In the meantime, I have seen just enough of Romo to make me want to see more. At times he reminds me of Brady or Staubach but at times he reminds me of Clint Longley. This whole thing is fun to watch develop. Henson is where he is supposed to be in the Parcells scheme and if BP didn't think he was worth it, he wouldn't be trying to improve his technique.

Parcells is in less of a hurry than the average football fan.

 

[wileedog]

But that's assuming he would have been a first round pick or that he is first round talent. This is the kind of thing we said about Hutchinson too. Granted, Henson came with more hype but everyone seems to conveniently forget that when Hutchinson arrived, those in favor of bringing him here constantly alluded to the idea that Hutchinson would have been a first round pick. I'm not saying the kid lacks talent but first round picks are first round picks and assumptions are just that.

The difference being Hutchinson had a spotty career at Stanford, including more INTs than TDs his final season. He threw for a lot of yards, but largely was a product of the system.

Henson had a shorter career, but put up solid numbers (indluding a 3-1 TD/INT ratio), played well in big games, and actually forced NFL uberwonderkin Tom Brady to the bench at times.

Drafting QBs is a crapshoot. Ask Detroit or Texas. If you can do it without blowing a first round pick and a big chunk of your salary cap, you are ahead of the game.

Personally from what I have seen of Romo, I haven't been that impressed. Could one argue that Romo is playing better than Henson? Yes

Could one argue that Romo is playing so much better than Henson that there is clear distinction? No

I disagree. Romo was clearly more comfortable, less hesitent, and did a better job going through his progressions. He is mentally a clear step ahead of Henson at this point.

I fully expect Henson to come into camp next year and close that gap, however, and there is no doubt he has better physical tools than Romo.

Guess we'll see. Fortunately, Bledsoe's play so far has taken some of the pressure off these guys for another year or two.